SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

[Union Tpke]

To get more frequent service in some areas that aren't at capacity I said before manhattan because most of the lines in manhattan din't have the capacity for more trains.

 

 

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[Union Tpke]

This can use some under used express tracks. This could save time for passengers because fir example a 2 trai. Can start at wakefield go via the express track to E 180 St where passengers can transfer to the 5 or 2 trains to manhattan. Overall this should save time for passengers. I realize it would not work on the Queens Blvd Line, but it should certainly work on lines with barely used express tracks.

 

 

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[Calvin]

just saw 7666-7670 on the coupled with 7741-7745 but it still got the train map

[Jamaica Line]

love taking that curve just pass Hewes St heading northbound via J express, looks harmless as hell but the cars quickly jerk to the side, catching a lot of people off guard... then right after it takes the curve you hear the fast clickety clack of the tracks... has to be one of my favorite runs in the system. wonder how'd it would feel on a set of 32s in the last car...

Edited July 30, 2013 by Jamaica Line

[paulrivera]

I saw two sets of R62A's on the this morning. One of the sets has 5 cars from the line mixed with 5 cars from Corona.

 

And no, I didnt see/notice any RFW's on either train.

[4P3607]

According to this... http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/index.html

 

After the gets split in two sections, the Southern Portion of the will use Coney Island Alstom R160's and the will have 16-17 trains of R46 during Rush Hour...

 

...Now that roster isn't 100% accurate. (Actually it mostly is, but the likes to change things at the last second ). Anyway, if you notice it says R160B-1 on the only. Same with the . If the still uses Siemens, then the will most likely as well. Also, I'm pretty sure Jamaica Yard will send some of its R160s back to CI (Likely 9198-9232) (until the service gets restored), or CI won't have enough R160s to put on the (It makes sense when you look at it, otherwise CI would be short on cars and JY would have all these extra R160s). 

 

Like I said, its not 100% accurate. It also says the is 100% R68 (No R68A, which is not true). 

 

But i'm looking forward to those R46 . It will be the old days all over again . (Now if only they would bring back the R32 ).

[Culver]

According to this... http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/index.html

 

After the gets split in two sections, the Southern Portion of the will use Coney Island Alstom R160's and the will have 16-17 trains of R46 during Rush Hour...

 

...Now that roster isn't 100% accurate. (Actually it mostly is, but the likes to change things at the last second ). Anyway, if you notice it says R160B-1 on the only. Same with the . If the still uses Siemens, then the will most likely as well. Also, I'm pretty sure Jamaica Yard will send some of its R160s back to CI (Likely 9198-9232) (until the service gets restored), or CI won't have enough R160s to put on the (It makes sense when you look at it, otherwise CI would be short on cars and JY would have all these extra R160s). 

 

Like I said, its not 100% accurate. It also says the is 100% R68 (No R68A, which is not true). 

 

But i'm looking forward to those R46 . It will be the old days all over again . (Now if only they would bring back the R32 ).

Seems plausible to me. Nice to see the ole R46s back on the F. Though I wish they were in better shape. The reason I like the R160s is they're obviously in great shape and have quite a bit of giddyup. Those Jamaica R46s often have bucking, are creaky and just plain slow compared to the R160s. Still, nostalgia and all, I'm cool with it.

[Snowblock]

The new service signs are up at Dekalb! I was expecting them to go with those black text on white background signs like they usually use for temporary service changes like Smith-9, but they're the regular type. Looks like this is gonna be for the long haul.

[Snowblock]

According to this... http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/index.html

 

Like I said, its not 100% accurate. It also says the is 100% R68 (No R68A, which is not true).

 

Congratulations, you're one of the few people on this site that has accepted that a railfan website might POSSIBLY have incorrect information on it! I saw a R68A yesterday. The also occasionally gets an R68A. Edited July 30, 2013 by Snowblock

[lupojohn]

The and trains as well as the IRT shuttle are thus the only three I haven't rode in the system. I will pretty soon. 

Only line I haven't ridden is the . Only stations I haven't passed are Broad Channel and the Rockaways north of where the went.

[realizm]

Never rode the SIR. That one I never did. Otherwise I rode every single subway line in the system, even ones in the past such as the , and the when I was very, very young (once) . Did ride the but that was when I was a teen.

[Union Tpke]

I h\ave rode the SIR the whole route and once every year to Annadale for Blue Heron Park.

[R32sdabest]

Seems plausible to me. Nice to see the ole R46s back on the F. Though I wish they were in better shape. The reason I like the R160s is they're obviously in great shape and have quite a bit of giddyup. Those Jamaica R46s often have bucking, are creaky and just plain slow compared to the R160s. Still, nostalgia and all, I'm cool with it.

The ones from Jamaica are good. Though I do hear some squeaking. However, the ones on the , suck.

 

According to this... http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/index.html

 

After the gets split in two sections, the Southern Portion of the will use Coney Island Alstom R160's and the will have 16-17 trains of R46 during Rush Hour...

 

...Now that roster isn't 100% accurate. (Actually it mostly is, but the likes to change things at the last second ). Anyway, if you notice it says R160B-1 on the only. Same with the . If the still uses Siemens, then the will most likely as well. Also, I'm pretty sure Jamaica Yard will send some of its R160s back to CI (Likely 9198-9232) (until the service gets restored), or CI won't have enough R160s to put on the (It makes sense when you look at it, otherwise CI would be short on cars and JY would have all these extra R160s).

 

Like I said, its not 100% accurate. It also says the is 100% R68 (No R68A, which is not true).

 

But i'm looking forward to those R46 . It will be the old days all over again . (Now if only they would bring back the R32 ).

If that ever happens, I'll be a happy camper.

[Around the Horn]

According to this... http://www.thejoekorner.com/carassignments/index.html

 

After the gets split in two sections, the Southern Portion of the will use Coney Island Alstom R160's and the will have 16-17 trains of R46 during Rush Hour...

 

...Now that roster isn't 100% accurate. (Actually it mostly is, but the likes to change things at the last second ). Anyway, if you notice it says R160B-1 on the only. Same with the . If the still uses Siemens, then the will most likely as well. Also, I'm pretty sure Jamaica Yard will send some of its R160s back to CI (Likely 9198-9232) (until the service gets restored), or CI won't have enough R160s to put on the (It makes sense when you look at it, otherwise CI would be short on cars and JY would have all these extra R160s). 

 

Like I said, its not 100% accurate. It also says the is 100% R68 (No R68A, which is not true). 

 

But i'm looking forward to those R46 . It will be the old days all over again . (Now if only they would bring back the R32 ).

Yes!"This is a Court Street bound train,the next stop is 59 St"

[peacemak3r]

The new service signs are up at Dekalb! I was expecting them to go with those black text on white background signs like they usually use for temporary service changes like Smith-9, but they're the regular type. Looks like this is gonna be for the long haul.

 

Saw this this morning as well.

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The awkward moment when you get off the for the at Kings Highway and at DeKalb, the same rolls up running on the line and you get on the same car you got off of at Kings Highway.  On top of that, arriving at Court Street, people asking if this was running on the line even after the conductor said it was..I mean honestly, where else would this go?! The ? FFS.

[realizm]

The ones from Jamaica are good. Though I do hear some squeaking. However, the ones on the , suck.

 

Different maintenance shops I believe, R46's on the  are maintained by Jamaica Yard for minor repairs and the CI Complex maintenance shops. With the R46's on the  maintained by Pitkin Yard (minor repairs), also 207th Street heavy overhaul shops.

 

Keep in mind that the travels through very rough terrain, so it's not surprising that the specialists @ 207th has a lot on their hands with the added challenges to keep the R46's there in good working order.

[Around the Horn]

Different maintenance shops I believe, R46's on the  are maintained by Jamaica Yard for minor repairs and the CI Complex maintenance shops. With the R46's on the  maintained by Pitkin Yard (minor repairs), also 207th Street heavy overhaul shops.

 

Keep in mind that the travels through very rough terrain, so it's not surprising that the specialists @ 207th has a lot on their hands with the added challenges to keep the R46's there in good working order.

What doesnt help is that they ran out of Duct tape...

[realizm]

lol

[itmaybeokay]

But i'm looking forward to those R46 . It will be the old days all over again . (Now if only they would bring back the R32 ).

 

In practice, I find the R46's to be troublesome on the , specifically evening rush hours. 

 

The 75' cars take longer to load/unload, and have a larger problem of passengers clustering by the doors. I find that R46 trains at Rock Ctr, when I'm on my way home waiting for the , are usually delayed and crowded. The crowding is of course exacerbated by the delay. 

 

In fact, once montague shuts it's portals for the year I might switch to taking the home. Starting it's run at whitehall, It'll probably be less delayed than the . 

 

Does anyone remember where to find the headways the trains will be running on after the montague split? 

[Around the Horn]

Congratulations, you're one of the few people on this site that has accepted that a railfan website might POSSIBLY have incorrect information on it! I saw a R68A yesterday. The also occasionally gets an R68A.

Ive only seen 68As on the   when the isnt running,other times its all 2800s

[realizm]

One of my only complaints I have with the R46's (and the R68's for that matter) is the transverse seating. Most straphangers who are men nowadays are anatomically taller then they were back in the 70's when the tranverse bucket seating idea was implemented. Myself for one who is at 5'10" and 182 lbs (according to my doctor when I had a physical done for the new nursing internship) I really am not comfortable at all sitting in one of the transverse bucket seats. Cant stand it.

 

If it was rush hour with few seats available and if there was nothing more available for seating but those seats seriously I'd rather stand.

 

It was a good move on the MTA to get rid of that seating arrangement with the intro of the R143's. Thank goodness. It would help better for larger passenger capacity anyway per car, an anvantage on the part of the MTA with decreased passenger load times.

 

Performance-wise, as a straphanger, I'd say either way these cars run. From a T/O's perspective from comments I heard, the R68's and R68A's are better to handle then the R46's which do not brake to a full stop as quickly as compared to the R68's in general.

[Snowblock]

 

Does anyone remember where to find the headways the trains will be running on after the montague split? 

 

First out of 95 St going to Court St will be 0521, and then returns to 95 St as the 0600 out of Court. The last one out of 95 St will be the 2249, and returns to 95 St as the 2332 out of Court.

 

15 minute headways from 0521 until 0558, and then 10 minute headways until 0638, and then 7-8 minute headways until 0856, then 10 minute headways (6's out of 95, 7's out of Court) until 1506, then 7-8 minute headways (the PM put-in's all go into service at 36 St N/B, so they'll be some gaps for the 95-45 portion) until 1914, then 10 minute headways until 2114, then 12 minute headways until shuttle service begins.

 

First out of CTL is 0502. and then returns as the 0600 out of Whitehall (interestingly, this trip is handled by a MIDNIGHT crew who is just starting their day!). Headways are all over the place from 6-12 minutes during morning rush, and then 10 minute headways middays (8's out of CTL, 7's out of Whitehall), and then all over the place again for rush and the evening. Last train out of CTL is the 2229, last out of Whitehall is the 2329.

[Around the Horn]

First out of 95 St going to Court St will be 0521, and then returns to 95 St as the 0600 out of Court. The last one out of 95 St will be the 2249, and returns to 95 St as the 2332 out of Court.

 

15 minute headways from 0521 until 0558, and then 10 minute headways until 0638, and then 7-8 minute headways until 0856, then 10 minute headways (6's out of 95, 7's out of Court) until 1506, then 7-8 minute headways (the PM put-in's all go into service at 36 St N/B, so they'll be some gaps for the 95-45 portion) until 1914, then 10 minute headways until 2114, then 12 minute headways until shuttle service begins.

 

First out of CTL is 0502. and then returns as the 0600 out of Whitehall (interestingly, this trip is handled by a MIDNIGHT crew who is just starting their day!). Headways are all over the place from 6-12 minutes during morning rush, and then 10 minute headways middays (8's out of CTL, 7's out of Whitehall), and then all over the place again for rush and the evening. Last train out of CTL is the 2229, last out of Whitehall is the 2329.

Is there any chance of a R68/68A   on the southern portion?

[RollOver]

One of my only complaints I have with the R46's (and the R68's for that matter) is the transverse seating.

 

Agreed. Don't forget, the R62s and R62As as well.

[itmaybeokay]

Last train out of CTL is the 2229, last out of Whitehall is the 2329.

 

It makes sense they'd axe the 2242 out of CTL

 

That is always a frustrating interval: late evenings on queens blvd local going southbound. Trains every 5-8 minutes all evening - then all of a sudden: Last R train followed 2 minutes later by the last M train.

 

Then wait 20 minutes for the first local Echo - enjoy your stay. Then the E is on 10 minute headways gradually slowing down to the late night 3tph. 

 

I'll do just about anything to avoid just barely missing that last .