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Finally they got around to fixing the announcement glitches on the (4). No more glitch sounds, but on the late night program when it gets to 125 the M60 is mentioned twice with both the old version and the SBS version played.

 

Also, the (4) started running local early northbound because of alleged "emergency track work." Yeah, that wasn't an emergency they probably just wanted to close the northbound so that they could do the planned work they were already doing southbound uninterrupted. The gap in (6) service probably had something to do with it too.

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I was thinking, since our elevated trestle are aging, would it be possible in the next 20,30 or even 40 years from now that these lines may have to be place underground? I would think if (MTA) would build a new subway line, it will be below ground rather that make the line elevated.

Most likely not. Some of the sections of those lines are elevated for geographical reasons.
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Why is "E177 Street" covered on most to all R142A's on the (6) ??

 

 

I always wondered that too

 

 

One of those station name changes the TA's made--always getting rid of the numbers from certain stations, going by neighborhood instead. 

There isn't a 177 Street at Parkchester. There hasn't been one in that location since the Cross Bronx Expressway was built many moons ago, but obviously the name stuck around much longer, similar to 238 St/Nereid Av.

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Nope only reason why they didn't go the (7) back then in 2002 is because the steinway tunnel was to narrow so when the R142A's were tested the tunnels scrapped the side of the trains... that is why the R62A's had to be taken off of the (3) and (6) and were sent to the (7). That is also why between 2004- around 2012 or so they worked on the tunnels  to extend them so that the R142A's can fit through without any Issues. Had the R142A's been succesful back in 2002 the R62A's would of never left the  (6)<6> and the (7) could of likely been running CBTC right now. However bloomberg is the reason why the R62s left the (4) to go to the (3).

 

Complete and utter nonsense. The R142's are in 5 car sets, and the 7 runs 11 car trains.

 

A 30 tph test was run one day in 2002 on the 7, to see if the line could get by with 10 car trains running more frequently. The test failed. So the R142's, as initially configured, couldn't go to the 7.

 

Believe it or not politics has a role in service. That's why they haven't done the (C) to Lefferts. It was supposed to happen back in 2011. Lefferts riders complained that they wanted their one seat Express Ride to Manhattan and they have pretty high political people. 

 

If you are seriously claiming that, one year after a major round of service cuts, NYCT was proposing to implement a major service boost in Rockaway service, then surely you can provide links to documentation of said proposal and of the alleged complaints. Incidentally, both the A and the C would have required many more cars for this service plan - where would these cars have come from?

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Complete and utter nonsense. The R142's are in 5 car sets, and the 7 runs 11 car trains.

 

A 30 tph test was run one day in 2002 on the 7, to see if the line could get by with 10 car trains running more frequently. The test failed. So the R142's, as initially configured, couldn't go to the 7.

 

 

If you are seriously claiming that, one year after a major round of service cuts, NYCT was proposing to implement a major service boost in Rockaway service, then surely you can provide links to documentation of said proposal and of the alleged complaints. Incidentally, both the A and the C would have required many more cars for this service plan - where would these cars have come from?

Only the (C) was supposed to get like 3-4 extra sets. And it was mentioned on here by employees many of times it was supposed to happen

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Complete and utter nonsense. The R142's are in 5 car sets, and the 7 runs 11 car trains.

 

A 30 tph test was run one day in 2002 on the 7, to see if the line could get by with 10 car trains running more frequently. The test failed. So the R142's, as initially configured, couldn't go to the 7.

 

 

If you are seriously claiming that, one year after a major round of service cuts, NYCT was proposing to implement a major service boost in Rockaway service, then surely you can provide links to documentation of said proposal and of the alleged complaints. Incidentally, both the A and the C would have required many more cars for this service plan - where would these cars have come from?

 

That R62AR33/junjun guy is just posting misinformation as always just so he can sound knowledgeable. Ignore him.

 

Only the (C) was supposed to get like 3-4 extra sets. And it was mentioned on here by employees many of times it was supposed to happen

 

And where would those so-called 3-4 extra trainsets come from?

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Only the (C) was supposed to get like 3-4 extra sets. And it was mentioned on here by employees many of times it was supposed to happen

 

The A to the Rockaways is a much longer run than the A to Lefferts. Running all A's to the Rockaways would require significantly more cars and more crews than the current split service. Where would those cars have come from and why on earth would NYCT have proposed a major service increase during a budget crisis?

 

Lots of stuff that has no basis in fact is mentioned here by employees. If this alleged proposal made it to the local communities, it also undoubtedly made it into the press. Can you find me one single link to an article, anywhere, regarding this alleged proposal and the alleged community uproar that followed?

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The A to the Rockaways is a much longer run than the A to Lefferts. Running all A's to the Rockaways would require significantly more cars and more crews than the current split service. Where would those cars have come from and why on earth would NYCT have proposed a major service increase during a budget crisis?

 

Lots of stuff that has no basis in fact is mentioned here by employees. If this alleged proposal made it to the local communities, it also undoubtedly made it into the press. Can you find me one single link to an article, anywhere, regarding this alleged proposal and the alleged community uproar that followed?

Who said it was the Rockaways? Far Rockaway isn't the entire Rockaways and just because stuff hasn't hit the press doesn't mean it was never planned. Not everything hits the press you know unless its finalized

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Who said it was the Rockaways? Far Rockaway isn't the entire Rockaways and just because stuff hasn't hit the press doesn't mean it was never planned. Not everything hits the press you know unless its finalized

 

You specifically said that there was a plan to extend the (C) to Lefferts and reroute the (A) to the Rockaways in 2011. That's what he was calling you out on.

 

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You yourself know as well as Andrew and I do that the (A) to/from Far Rockaway is the longest in the entire system and would have required a bit more cars than the run to/from Lefferts. The (C) being extended to Lefferts would have also required a bit more cars. Why would there be such a plan back in 2008-2010? The (MTA) was facing a ton of budget issues in those years.

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I said the (C) to Lefferts. I never said anything about the (A) to the Rockaways

 

Don't play around, Daniel. You know what you yourself said. If the (C) goes to Lefferts, then that means all  (A) 's goes to the Rockaways, no?

 

Also, look at my edited previous post above. I think you misunderstood what Andrew was trying to call you out on.

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Believe it or not politics has a role in service. That's why they haven't done the (C) to Lefferts. It was supposed to happen back in 2011. Lefferts riders complained that they wanted their one seat Express Ride to Manhattan and they have pretty high political people. Another one, the (R) ran to 179th Street back in 1988. It only lasted less than a year because residents along Hillside Avenue local stations complained that they wanted their one seat Express Ride (And that was also proven in an article). So yeah there is truth to it

Because RollOver added words to my mouth

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Heh, I see you've completely contradicted yourself. But it's cool. It's not like neither you nor R62AR33/junjun gave any solid proof anyway.

 

There aren't enough cars for a (C) extension to/from Lefferts (and the (A) reroute to the Rockaways in general) anyway. No such was the plan during the years between 2008 and 2010 since the (MTA) was facing budget issues.

 

Keep posting more misinformation and hearsays.

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Whatever back on topic. The trip to Far Rockaway seems longer than the trip to Rock Park from Manhattan. The good thing about it though is better than riding the (E) to Jamaica-179th Street from Rockaway Park from what I heard. Although we already had an (A) train that went to 179th Street back in 2013 which was from Far Rockaway. Does anyone else think the trip to Far Rock from Manhattan is longer than riding the (A) to Rock Park?

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Who said it was the Rockaways? Far Rockaway isn't the entire Rockaways and just because stuff hasn't hit the press doesn't mean it was never planned. Not everything hits the press you know unless its finalized

 

If not the Rockaways, then where do you claim the former-Lefferts A's would have gone?

 

If "Lefferts riders complained that they wanted their one seat Express Ride to Manhattan" (your words) then Lefferts riders were aware of a proposal to take away their express ride. How did they become aware of said alleged proposal, and how did you become aware of their alleged complaints?

 

Whatever back on topic. The trip to Far Rockaway seems longer than the trip to Rock Park from Manhattan. The good thing about it though is better than riding the (E) to Jamaica-179th Street from Rockaway Park from what I heard. Although we already had an (A) train that went to 179th Street back in 2013 which was from Far Rockaway. Does anyone else think the trip to Far Rock from Manhattan is longer than riding the (A) to Rock Park?

 

Hammels Wye to Far Rockaway is almost twice the distance of Hammels Wye to Rockaway Park. In the PM rush, the scheduled running time is 10-11 minutes from Broad Channel to Rockaway Park and 14-15 minutes from Broad Channel to Far Rockaway.

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