Cait Sith Posted April 3, 2011 Share #201 Posted April 3, 2011 I admit I am NOT a fan of closed door services. While I was on an SI express bus when we got off the expressway were were going as slow as a local bus!!! That was the only reason why I even concieved my previous express bus Idea!! from that experience. The other transit systems I have analyzed are more long distance and regional therefore alot more factors go into it. If you are familier with NJT then you know their weakest link is their horrid crosstown service outside NE NJ. Where a simple travel pattern by car turns into a long ordeal if replicated by bus. that or a dial a bus to finish the trip. Maryland's weakness= the lack of off-peak service on their regional rtes leaves no other choice for commuters going into DC and baltimore but to drive. The majority of car traffic in DC and baltimore comes not from the city themselves but the suburban areas in which the regional rtes and isolated local LOTS rtes are supposed to serve thus the transit is structured ONLY FOR THE POOR!!! That is a problem as it ignores the traffic problems in that region. For NYC I admit my suburban plans are WAY BETTER than the plans I leaked hints about on these forums. I had a LI proposal with details I DID NOT MENTION HERE. I gave advocacy groups and MTA board a look I did get positive feedback from some ppl too. So you only rode one express around and thats where your plans came from? Child, ride some MORE Express Routes before making such dumb ideas, so you can actually get the idea of the people, the depots, the runs and so-on..... MTA NYC Transit and MTA Bus is a citywide group, as where WMATA, New Jersey Transit, MTA Maryland and a few other redundant companies you keep mentioned are STATEWIDE! You cannot have plans from different companies cooperate with how things work in NYC because MTA NYC Transit & MTA Bus are entirely different from these other companies you keep mentioning. Just stop with that bloody idea already. As for your "suburban plans", dont even mention them, because you will get called out on some of the ideas and you'll have no merit to explain or back up your silly ideas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted April 3, 2011 Share #202 Posted April 3, 2011 Child, ride some MORE Express Routes before making such dumb ideas, so you can actually get the idea of the people, the depots, the runs and so-on. LOL... Child... That's being very polite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 3, 2011 Share #203 Posted April 3, 2011 So you only rode one express around and thats where your plans came from? Child, ride some MORE Express Routes before making such dumb ideas, so you can actually get the idea of the people, the depots, the runs and so-on..... MTA NYC Transit and MTA Bus is a citywide group, as where WMATA, New Jersey Transit, MTA Maryland and a few other redundant companies you keep mentioned are STATEWIDE! You cannot have plans from different companies cooperate with how things work in NYC because MTA NYC Transit & MTA Bus are entirely different from these other companies you keep mentioning. Just stop with that bloody idea already. As for your "suburban plans", dont even mention them, because you will get called out on some of the ideas and you'll have no merit to explain or back up your silly ideas.... actually several queens bronx brooklyn and SI rtes to be exact I also nooticed the timed transfers between BXM and BM rtes too. sometimes I would use random rtes when I was a secret shopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 3, 2011 Share #204 Posted April 3, 2011 So you only rode one express around and thats where your plans came from? Child, ride some MORE Express Routes before making such dumb ideas, so you can actually get the idea of the people, the depots, the runs and so-on..... MTA NYC Transit and MTA Bus is a citywide group, as where WMATA, New Jersey Transit, MTA Maryland and a few other redundant companies you keep mentioned are STATEWIDE! You cannot have plans from different companies cooperate with how things work in NYC because MTA NYC Transit & MTA Bus are entirely different from these other companies you keep mentioning. Just stop with that bloody idea already. As for your "suburban plans", dont even mention them, because you will get called out on some of the ideas and you'll have no merit to explain or back up your silly ideas.... actually my plans arent related to NYC at all. plus at an NJT meeting one of the njt employees asked for my business card when I made suggestions he even gave me ridership data on several NJT rtes plus my suburban pland include dutchess and integrating westchester with putnam via merging rtes but not in a outright way more like express service enhancement in westchester not the 5.50 fares I will most likely mention around other ppl. I have used several NJT rtes allover NJ and maryland a little too many to count but in NJ I used rtes in SJ NW NJ and I am not trying to even compare NYC to other places as My ideas are different for each place!!! PLUS PREJUDGING what you dont know will make ya look dumb!! I had more time with NJ and suburban NY than with NYC. So I have got a feel for how crappy their systems are and why as well. I dont really want to bother with suffolk as they already know. Maryland however I was surprised they hadnt saw offpeak demand as some rtes were standing room only. I also learned from 991 dont judge a rte without using it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted April 3, 2011 Share #205 Posted April 3, 2011 actually my plans arent related to NYC at all. plus at an NJT meeting one of the njt employees asked for my business card when I made suggestions he even gave me ridership data on several NJT rtes plus my suburban pland include dutchess and integrating westchester with putnam via merging rtes but not in a outright way more like express service enhancement in westchester not the 5.50 fares I will most likely mention around other ppl. I have used several NJT rtes allover NJ and maryland a little too many to count but in NJ I used rtes in SJ NW NJ and I am not trying to even compare NYC to other places as My ideas are different for each place!!! PLUS PREJUDGING what you dont know will make ya look dumb!! I had more time with NJ and suburban NY than with NYC. So I have got a feel for how crappy their systems are and why as well. I dont really want to bother with suffolk as they already know. Maryland however I was surprised they hadnt saw offpeak demand as some rtes were standing room only. I also learned from 991 dont judge a rte without using it Yeah those drivers must have a peanut as a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 3, 2011 Share #206 Posted April 3, 2011 Yeah those drivers must have a peanut as a brain. that wasnt what I meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 3, 2011 Share #207 Posted April 3, 2011 actually my plans arent related to NYC at all. plus at an NJT meeting one of the njt employees asked for my business card when I made suggestions he even gave me ridership data on several NJT rtes plus my suburban pland include dutchess and integrating westchester with putnam via merging rtes but not in a outright way more like express service enhancement in westchester not the 5.50 fares I will most likely mention around other ppl. I have used several NJT rtes allover NJ and maryland a little too many to count but in NJ I used rtes in SJ NW NJ and I am not trying to even compare NYC to other places as My ideas are different for each place!!! PLUS PREJUDGING what you dont know will make ya look dumb!! I had more time with NJ and suburban NY than with NYC. So I have got a feel for how crappy their systems are and why as well. I dont really want to bother with suffolk as they already know. Maryland however I was surprised they hadnt saw offpeak demand as some rtes were standing room only. I also learned from 991 dont judge a rte without using it that wasnt what I meant Not that I really give a damn but you're still trying to apply scenarios from different agencies into MTA NYC Transit, which wont work.....Even bus operators know your plans are going to fail. JUST STOP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 3, 2011 Share #208 Posted April 3, 2011 :tdown: Even bus operators know your plans are going to fail. JUST STOP! I asked a question answer it I am not even shouting and already crap is coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 3, 2011 Share #209 Posted April 3, 2011 :tdown: I asked a question answer it I am not even shouting and already crap is coming You're grammatical errors fails to point our where your question is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted April 3, 2011 Share #210 Posted April 3, 2011 :tdown: I asked a question answer it I am not even shouting and already crap is coming You just don't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 3, 2011 Share #211 Posted April 3, 2011 You just don't make any sense. I asked a question about NJ in another thread thats it I wanted an answer not a fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted April 3, 2011 Share #212 Posted April 3, 2011 I asked a question about NJ in another thread thats it I wanted an answer not a fight Ask your questions with sense and i'll answer them, until then im not answering any of your crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 3, 2011 Share #213 Posted April 3, 2011 I asked a question about NJ in another thread thats it I wanted an answer not a fight Then post your question here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 3, 2011 Share #214 Posted April 3, 2011 Then post your question here..... as you wish I was asking about 139 I know it has alot of buses and sometimes too many. what are the segment legs that get the highest ridership?? from which point to which point?? also I heard some NJT rtes suffered from this which rtes in central NJ need an improvement?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted April 3, 2011 Share #215 Posted April 3, 2011 I don't think he can keep up with his own shit-stirral of ideas on this forum.... there was clearly no recent question by him in THIS thread regarding our express buses.... so now he jumps to w/e question he posted in the NJ forum.... here on the MTA bus forums..... organization.... organization.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 3, 2011 Share #216 Posted April 3, 2011 I don't think he can keep up with his own shit-stirral of ideas on this forum.... there was clearly no recent question by him in THIS thread regarding our express buses.... so now he jumps to w/e question he posted in the NJ forum.... here on the MTA bus forums..... organization.... organization.... I was curious but all I got was anger I only want a better idea for travel demand and ridership thats all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted April 3, 2011 Share #217 Posted April 3, 2011 I was curious but all I got was anger I only want a better idea for travel demand and ridership thats all then instead of talking in circles & conjuring up these plans, based off one solitary express bus trip.... why not ask specific questions BEFORE the fact... don't act like no one here is willing to opinionate on your concerns..... ....and the NJT question you just posted, 553 is better suited to answer that, as I have very limited experience/usage on the 139.... that's another thing, if you don't have a full (or good enough) grasp of something, you simply don't have it.... don't be afraid to admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 3, 2011 Share #218 Posted April 3, 2011 then instead of talking in circles & conjuring up these plans, based off one solitary express bus trip.... why not ask specific questions BEFORE the fact... don't act like no one here is willing to opinionate on your concerns..... ....and the NJT question you just posted, 553 is better suited to answer that, as I have very limited experience/usage on the 139.... that's another thing, if you don't have a full (or good enough) grasp of something, you simply don't have it.... don't be afraid to admit that. My questions did admit it indirectly when I asked for ridership data and behavior of express bus riders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZGuy Posted April 3, 2011 Share #219 Posted April 3, 2011 gjtransitmaster, Listen, nobody is wants to bash you. People are getting aggravated because you lay out these grandiose plans (ala Pinky and the Brain style) and keep pushing them when people who know (and work) in the system tell you these plans are not feasible. We have gone over this interlining express buses on multiple threads and you just don't seem to get it. I'm gonna give you this advice. If you have a question....first use the search button. We've had all kind of discussions and you might be able find your own answer. If not then ask the question in a clear concise manner. One thing you will learn is that the is a transit system like no other....I consider it one of the most complex. All I ask is for you to really ride the system and really get to see the traffic and passenger flows before you come up with these wild plans. I don't know the system as much as I would like which is why I ask questions before I propose anything. Just food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q101viaSteinway Posted April 4, 2011 Share #220 Posted April 4, 2011 Why fight nothing we say goes anywhere and people just laugh at us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted April 4, 2011 Share #221 Posted April 4, 2011 gjtransitmaster, Listen, nobody is wants to bash you. People are getting aggravated because you lay out these grandiose plans (ala Pinky and the Brain style) and keep pushing them when people who know (and work) in the system tell you these plans are not feasible. We have gone over this interlining express buses on multiple threads and you just don't seem to get it. I'm gonna give you this advice. If you have a question....first use the search button. We've had all kind of discussions and you might be able find your own answer. If not then ask the question in a clear concise manner. One thing you will learn is that the is a transit system like no other....I consider it one of the most complex. All I ask is for you to really ride the system and really get to see the traffic and passenger flows before you come up with these wild plans. I don't know the system as much as I would like which is why I ask questions before I propose anything. Just food for thought. I had no time ya have a point MTA is more complex than the statewide systems and sububan areas as those areas were easy to spot flaws than with MTA AS A WHOLE. However I did see flaws in LIB and SCT due to lack of coordination but I wasnt even discussing that here yet. I did send a LIB proposal but that was after using LIB hevily!!! and about a year in figuring it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAzumah Posted April 5, 2011 Share #222 Posted April 5, 2011 My questions did admit it indirectly when I asked for ridership data and behavior of express bus riders Express bus riders have common traits, but they are not all the same. They usually exhibit different behaviors by income group and length of ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted April 5, 2011 Share #223 Posted April 5, 2011 Express bus riders have common traits, but they are not all the same. They usually exhibit different behaviors by income group and length of ride. As an express bus rider, I would like you to elaborate on that with some examples.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted April 5, 2011 Share #224 Posted April 5, 2011 Express bus riders have common traits, but they are not all the same. They usually exhibit different behaviors by income group and length of ride. agree w/ the length of ride part.... not sure about the income group part though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of RedBirds Posted April 5, 2011 Share #225 Posted April 5, 2011 Well since they killed off the X90 a year ago, Manhattan is left without any express buses. I was wondering if there are any Bronx express buses that start somewhere downtown or in Battery Park City and run up the East Side, like on Madison, 3rd, or 1st. And if there are, would I be able to get off or do they only drop off passengers starting in the Bronx? BXM18 But it runs from Downtown Local to about 57th St IDK, then express to 263rd st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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