Kacie Jane Posted February 22, 2012 Share #251 Posted February 22, 2012 If the problems only at Canal, why are you running everything via 6th Avenue? I mean, you'd still have the same problem with capacity, but there's no reason to switch at 59th instead of West 4th. And before I make another stupid mistake before I try to answer, I'm assuming both levels of Canal are closed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted February 22, 2012 Share #252 Posted February 22, 2012 Yes, both levels of Canal , as well as Canal . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacie Jane Posted February 22, 2012 Share #253 Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Here's my solution. rerouted via the between West 4th and Jay. Express from 168th to 59th ONLY. ( runs 24/7 from 168th Street to Coney Island (Brighton local). suspended. normal. runs to 34th Street only. (runs on express tracks on 8th Avenue) normal. (Mx) rerouted to 95th/Bay Ridge. runs in two sections: Astoria to Herald Square, and Whitehall Street to Coney Island. suspended. suspended. Edited February 22, 2012 by Kacie Jane Minor tweaks to (A) and (B) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted February 22, 2012 Share #254 Posted February 22, 2012 I'd tweak that a bit: Trains run local between 59 St and West 4 St, then via the to Jay St. ( Trains run 24/7 and run local in Brooklyn. No trains between Chambers St and 168 St. Regular service. No trains between 34 St - Penn Sta [express platform] and World Trade Ctr. Normal service. Trains run between Metropolitan Av and Coney Island via Sea Beach. No trains from 34 St - Herald Sq to Whitehall St. Trains run every 15 minutes south of Whitehall St. Trains run every 15 minutes between Brighton Beach and Whitehall St. Trains run via the from 36 St (Queens) to 47/50 Sts, then via the to Atlantic/Pacific. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacie Jane Posted February 22, 2012 Share #255 Posted February 22, 2012 That could definitely work. Failure on my part not to think of turning the at Chambers. And I like your full-length orange . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted February 22, 2012 Share #256 Posted February 22, 2012 That could definitely work. Failure on my part not to think of turning the at Chambers. And I like your full-length orange . Do you have a scenario to post? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacie Jane Posted February 22, 2012 Share #257 Posted February 22, 2012 Sure... it's a relatively easy one I think. Due to some sort of malfunction -- I'm not an engineer -- the switches south of Columbus Circle are impassible. Trains from Upper Manhattan/The Bronx can terminate at 59th, and the from 53rd Street is unaffected, but trains from Central Park West cannot access Eighth OR Sixth Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted February 22, 2012 Share #258 Posted February 22, 2012 No trains between 59 St - Columbus Circle and Queens. ( No trains between Bedford Park Blvd and 42 St - Bryant Pk. No trains between 168 St and Chambers St. No trains between 59 St - Columbus Circle and 42 St - Bryant Park. Trains extended from World Trade Center to Queens to replace the . Trains run local north of 59 St. Downtown trains run local from 96 to 42 St. Uptown trains run local from 42 to 72 St. NEXT 23 St and 7 Av / 53 St ( are impassable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted February 23, 2012 Share #259 Posted February 23, 2012 NEXT 23 St N Q R and 7 Av / 53 St B D E are impassable. -Runs express between Canal Street and 59 Street. (-Rerouted via the between 59 Street and West 4 Street. -Rerouted via the between 59 Street and West 4 Street. -Rerouted via the between 5 Avenue-53 Street and West 4 Street. -Suspended between 71 Avenue and Myrtle Avenue. -Rerouted via the between Atlantic Avenue and Broadway/Laffayette, via the between Broadway/Laffayette and 71 Avenue (Queens Local). Shuttles run: 1.Between Ditmars Boulevard and 34 Street-Herald Square. 2.Between Whitehall Street and Kings Highway. -Rerouted via the ( between Atlantic Avenue and 47-50 Streets and via the between 47-50 Streets and Jamaica-179 Street. (Express between Union Turnpike and 179 Street.) -Rerouted via the between Atlantic Avenue and West 4 Street and via the between West 4 Street and Queens Plaza. For short- 8th Avenue Express- A C 8th Avenue Local- B D 6th Avenue Express- E F Q 6th Avenue Local- N R 53 Street- E N 63 Street- F Q R Queens Express- E F Q Queens Local- N R I just noticed that it's not possible to have the run express between 14 Street and 34 Street without having it skip Spring St too. Next problem: An incident leaves the Central Park West Line impassable between 59 Street and 125 Street. How could you change service? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted February 23, 2012 Share #260 Posted February 23, 2012 Next problem: An incident leaves the Central Park West Line impassable between 59 Street and 125 Street. How could you change service? runs between 207th and 168th,Penn Sta regular south.(Passengers transfer to the ) ( Re-routed via Broadway line to 57th no service north of DeKalb on 6th Av Suspended(Shuttle buses provide service btwn 168 and 145 to nearby ) 205th to 145th and (D)'s running via Queens Blvd 63rd St to Continental or and 179th 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 24, 2012 Share #261 Posted February 24, 2012 Next problem: An incident leaves the Central Park West Line impassable between 59 Street and 125 Street. How could you change service? Runs in 3 sections: 1:Local from 125-207 street 2:Local From 59 street via 6 Avenue to 2 Avenue 3:Local From Jay Street to the Rockaways (©is Suspended operates in 4 sections 1:From 205 street to 125 street 2:From 59 street to Euclid via 8 Avenue Express 3.From Jamaica 179 street via 53 street to 2 Avenue via Queens Boulevard Local/6 Avenue Express 4: Forest Hills-71 Avenue via Broadway Local-4 Avenue to Coney Island operates to Lefferts Blvd Operates regular but via 53 street (M)Operates to 59 street operates to Astoria Blvd operates between Coney Island and 21 STREET-Queensbridge via 6 Avenue with limited Brighton Express Service (Q101) rerouted to serve 21 street Queensbridge then Queens Plaza via 37/38 Avenues and 21 street as well as Queens Plaza Foamers Beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted February 24, 2012 Share #262 Posted February 24, 2012 C-Runs express between Canal Street and 59 Street. B-Rerouted via the C between 59 Street and West 4 Street. D-Rerouted via the C between 59 Street and West 4 Street. E-Rerouted via the M between 5 Avenue-53 Street and West 4 Street. M-Suspended between 71 Avenue and Myrtle Avenue. N-Rerouted via the D between Atlantic Avenue and Broadway/Laffayette, via the F between Broadway/Laffayette and 71 Avenue (Queens Local). Shuttles run: 1.Between Ditmars Boulevard and 34 Street-Herald Square. 2.Between Whitehall Street and Kings Highway. Q-Rerouted via the B between Atlantic Avenue and 47-50 Streets and via the F between 47-50 Streets and Jamaica-179 Street. (Express between Union Turnpike and 179 Street.) R-Rerouted via the D between Atlantic Avenue and West 4 Street and via the M between West 4 Street and Queens Plaza. For short- 8th Avenue Express- A C 8th Avenue Local- B D 6th Avenue Express- E F Q 6th Avenue Local- N R 53 Street- E N 63 Street- F Q R Queens Express- E F Q Queens Local- N R I just noticed that it's not possible to have the C run express between 14 Street and 34 Street without having it skip Spring St too. Next problem: An incident leaves the Central Park West Line impassable between 59 Street and 125 Street. How could you change service? Why not this? I know this may sound a bit foamy, but it cuts down on switching as much as possible and keeps all lines with the same tph, whether it's the same service or not. Also, switches stay fixed pretty much everywhere. ( Runs via the from 59 St to West 4 St, then via the to Stillwell Av. Runs via the from West 4 St to Metropolitan Av. This reduces congestion at West 4 St Junction. Runs via the from 59 St to West 4 St, then via the to Stillwell Av. Both trains run via 63 St and 6 Av Express, then over the Manhattan Bridge. The E then replaces the N/Q in Brooklyn, and the F replaces the B/D in Brooklyn. Extended to Bay Ridge / 95 St. Runs via the from West 4 St to Euclid Av. This reduces congestion at West 4 St Junction. No trains between 34 St - Herald Sq and Stillwell Av. Use the E in Brooklyn - transfer at 34 St / Herald Sq. No trains running. Use the E in Brooklyn and the N in Queens - transfer at 34 St / Herald Sq. Runs via 53 St and 6 Av Local to World Trade Center. This reduces congestion at West 4 St Junction. Skip-stop suspended, runs as J. To summarize: 53 St 60 St 63 St, 6 Av Exp, Man Bridge, BMT South 8 Av Lcl ( Williamsburg Line Cranberry Tube @ CPW Problem A No trains between 125 St and 34 St - Penn Station. Very limited service runs to 59 St. Trains run local north of 145 St. B No trains between 145 St and 57 St (alternate trains run to 6 or 7 Avs). Trains relay via 63rd. C No trains between Chambers St and 168 St. D No trains between 125 St and 59 St. NEXT 28 St is impassable on the 1/2/3 line. Challenge: For each train per hour you leave in two sections, provide an equal number of extra trains per hour on a nearby line. Make sure passengers can easily transfer between the two lines somewhere. PS Avoid 2 via Lex as the East Side is over capacity as it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted February 24, 2012 Share #263 Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) NEXT 28 St is impassable on the 1/2/3 line. Challenge: For each train per hour you leave in two sections, provide an equal number of extra trains per hour on a nearby line. Make sure passengers can easily transfer between the two lines somewhere. PS Avoid 2 via Lex as the East Side is over capacity as it is. TPH 20 -Suspended between 34 Street and South Ferry. Use . -Runs in two sections: 12 Between Wakefield-241 Street and 34 Street. 17 Between 14 Street and Flatbush Avenue. (Local between 14 Street and Chambers Street.) -Suspended between 135 Street and New Lots Avenue. Use . -Extended to New Lots Avenue. Runs local between Franklin Avenue and Utica Avenue. Free shuttle buses run between Chambers Street and South Ferry. __________________________________________________________________________________________ I think I got an OKAY idea with the TPH. I'm not very good with them. Edited February 24, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted February 24, 2012 Share #264 Posted February 24, 2012 runs between 207th and 168th,Penn Sta regular south.(Passengers transfer to the )( Re-routed via Broadway line to 57th no service north of DeKalb on 6th Av Suspended(Shuttle buses provide service btwn 168 and 145 to nearby ) 205th to 145th and (D)'s running via Queens Blvd 63rd St to Continental or and 179th Fulton Street Local? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 24, 2012 Share #265 Posted February 24, 2012 What if Robert Moses was a subway fan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted February 24, 2012 Share #266 Posted February 24, 2012 Nice. Now that's what you call a what if. I'd imagine the city's subway would be much more expansive and far-reaching. Of course, his methods of building them would probably be the same, i.e., move or get bulldozed out. Off the top of my head, I'm almost certain there would be a subway in Staten Island, probably along the VZN Bridge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted February 25, 2012 Share #267 Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) NEXT 28 St is impassable on the 1/2/3 line. Challenge: For each train per hour you leave in two sections, provide an equal number of extra trains per hour on a nearby line. Make sure passengers can easily transfer between the two lines somewhere. PS Avoid 2 via Lex as the East Side is over capacity as it is. No service between 34th st & 14th St Via Lex Ave LOCAL No service between 42nd St & Chambers St To Phelam Bay ALL TIMES Suspended Extra Service Extra Service BxMn7 Service runs local down Westchester Ave during rush hours. NEXT Willamsburg Bridge is closed due to structural problems. Edited February 25, 2012 by CDTA Forogt to add things regarding the (6) and BxMn7 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted February 25, 2012 Share #268 Posted February 25, 2012 No service between 34th st & 14th St Via Lex Ave LOCAL No service between 42nd St & Chambers St To Phelam Bay ALL TIMES Suspended Extra Service Extra Service BxMn7 Service runs local down Westchester Ave during rush hours. NEXT Willamsburg Bridge is closed due to structural problems. The can't get to/from the Lex Local except by going through the tunnels (both under the Harlem and East Rivers). And you expect the to provide enough alternative service for the , which is around 40 tph? (The already operates as frequently as it can during the rush). @Williamsburg Bridge: No trains between Delancey/Essex and Marcy Av. No trains between Delancey/Essex and Myrtle Av. All trips run as J. Service increased between Chambers St and Euclid Av. NEXT 33 St is impassable on the Lex Local - the expresses can still run. As you can't run the all via express, you must reroute something and provide equal-tph alternatives. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted February 25, 2012 Share #269 Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) : Trains run in 2 sections. 1. Between Woodlawn & Grand Central-42nd St. 2. Between Harlem-148th St and Crown Heights-Utica/New Lots Avs. : Trains run on between 149th & Nevins Sts in both direction. : Trains run express between Grand Central & Brooklyn Bridge in both directions. Shuttle Buses make local stops between Grand Central & Brooklyn Bridge via 3rd-Lex-4th Avs-Broadway-Cetre St. Express Shuttle Bus also provided only stopping at Grand Central, Union Sq and Brooklyn Bridge. Extra service provided on M1, M2, M3, M4, M5,M8, M15, M15SBS, M21, 22, M23, M34/M34A SBS, M42, M101, M102, M103. Little off-topic, and how about this? 61st St-Woodside Station collasped on LIRR Woodside Station. Edited February 25, 2012 by FamousNYLover Fix 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share #270 Posted February 25, 2012 Little off-topic, and how about this? 61st St-Woodside Station collasped on LIRR Woodside Station. Challenge Accepted. First off, service is suspended. (7)s will run in two sections. Times Square and Queensboro Plaza, and 69 st to Flushing. The ®will have boosted headways along with a shuttle from 69 St to queens Plaza. As for LIRR service, since there is on track map I may be wrong. Oyster Bay line runs in shuttle mode. Montauk Line runs like normal except all trains turn at Babylon. Long Beach and West Hempstead run between their respective terminals and their first stop on the Babylon line (valley stream/lynbrook) Ronkonkoma line runs between Hicksville and Ronkonkoma. Regular Greenport service. Port Jeff- Regular diesel service. All Penn-Bound trains turn @ Jamaica. Hempstead-Regular service. Babylon-All Penn trains turn @ Jamaica. Some go to atlantic terminal. Port Wash. can trains turn at Citi Field? service is boosted and hours are extended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted February 25, 2012 Share #271 Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Little off-topic, and how about this? 61st St-Woodside Station collasped on LIRR Woodside Station. Signed as runs between TQ and Queensboro All LIRR City Terminal Zone trains that go through Woodside are re-routed through Hunterspoint OR Atlantic Terminal. Rerouted from WTC to Ozone Park Lefferts Blvd Running local. Extended from Euclid Ave to Rockaway Park Suspended <A> Suspended Extra (Q7) Service Tickets to Zone 1 are now $2 cheaper Runs at half of its current headway and runs between Flushing and 74th St, setting up extended platforms so that 74th can be acsessed. Add 1 extra car to all Queens Blvd and trains that stop at Atlantic Ave, and have it so that there trains pull up a half car up, so that all cars can be acsessed. Port Washington branch trains run only to Mets-Witles Point.:cool: NEXT Atlantic Ave/Atlantic Ave Pacific St/Atlantic Terminal are being re-done. No trains can stop or pass through. Edited February 25, 2012 by CDTA Accedeintly typed Broad Channel instead of Rockaway Park olol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted February 25, 2012 Share #272 Posted February 25, 2012 Atlantic Ave/Atlantic Ave Pacific St/Atlantic Terminal are being re-done. No trains can stop or pass through. Trains Suspended Trains run in two sections, Wakefield-Nevins St, and Flatbush Av-Eastern Pkwy Brooklyn Museum. and trains terminate at Grand Central. trains run local to Bowling Green. ( trains suspended. trains run in two sections, between Norwood 205 St and West 4 St - Wash Sq, and between Coney Island and 36 St. trains run in two sections, between Astoria and 14 St-Union Sq, and between Coney Island and 36 St. trains run in two sections, between 57 St-7 Av and 14 St-Union Sq, and Coney Island and Prospect Park. trains terminate at Whitehall, and the Late Night Shuttle will be operated. *I have no clue about LIRR* What if.... The 60th Street tunnel collapsed, flooding the tracks from the tunnel to 5 Av and cutting the power to 57 St-7 Av. What would you do in this disaster? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted February 25, 2012 Share #273 Posted February 25, 2012 What if....The 60th Street tunnel collapsed, flooding the tracks from the tunnel to 5 Av and cutting the power to 57 St-7 Av. What would you do in this disaster? - Run in 2 sections: Times Square to Coney Island; Queensboro Plaza to Astoria - Suspended (( runs local in Brooklyn) - Runs between Times Square and Brooklyn NEXT: Because of a police investigation the UPTOWN platform at Chambers Street is closed off and trains cannot pass through (downtown side is fine). How would you reroute the trains? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted February 25, 2012 Share #274 Posted February 25, 2012 NEXT: Because of a police investigation the UPTOWN platform at Chambers Street is closed off and trains cannot pass through (downtown side is fine). How would you reroute the trains? I would probably just send the up through the downtown side, even with the delays. NEXT The gets canceled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted February 25, 2012 Share #275 Posted February 25, 2012 To me: : No trains between 14th St & South Ferry, trains runs express bet 34th St-Penn Station and 14th St. : Flatbush Av-bound trains run local from Times Sq to Chambers St. 241st St-bound trains run on from Atlantic Av to Nevins St. : No service between Atlantic Av & Harlem-148th St. Shuttle buses operate as follow. Between Chambers St and South Ferry. Shuttle Buses replace uptown local station stops from Chambers to 34th St. M1/M2/M3 Downtown, M5, M7, M20 will provide free boarding at station stops corresponding. Customers to/from Park Place, should transfer between and uptown and at Fulton St. Customers at Fulton St should use uptown , . Customers at Clark and Hoyt Sts should use Borough Hall Station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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