official Subway - What If?

[LongLiveRock]

Due to flooding, DeKalb Ave and it’s tracks are closed. 

 

The express bypass tracks are still passable however. 

 

Reroute....

 

 

Run , trains to Lawrence Street

Run , on express over bridge to Atlantic Ave

Terminate at 2nd Avenue

Run express shuttle along Brighton line from Brighton Beach to Prospect Park to help with capacity.

[LongLiveRock]

A mysterious accident causes every 28th Street station to be closed, with all local tracks impassable for an unknown amount of time. Express tracks are okay, as are lines with no stop at 28th Street.

 

Stations affected:

 

28th Street [theoretically 33rd Street and 23rd street as well]

28th Street [theoretically 18th Street and 23rd Street as well]

28th Street [theoretically 23rd Street as well]

[FamousNYLover]

Due to flooding, DeKalb Ave and it’s tracks are closed. 

 

The express bypass tracks are still passable however. 

 

Reroute....

 

: No trains between Broadway-Lafayette and Brighton Beach. Trains will be rerouted on line between West 4th St & 2nd Av.

: Trains skip DeKalb Av and runs express in Brooklyn.

: Late night train rerouted over Manhattan Bridge and skipping DeKalb Av between Canal St and Atlantic Av-Barclay Center. Trains run express in Brooklyn during late night.

: Trains run in 2 sections.

1. Between 96th St-2nd Av and Whitehall St .

2. Between Prospect Park and Coney Island-Stillwell Av.

: Trains rerouted over on line between Canal St and Atlantic Av-Barclay Center. Late night service terminate at Atlantic Av-Barclay Center.

Shuttle Bus operates as follows.

1. Lower Manhattan Shuttle Bus will make all stop between Canal St and Whitehall St.

2. Brooklyn Shuttle Bus makes all stop between Court St and Prospect Park.

Edited February 26, 2017 by FamousNYLover

[FamousNYLover]

 

A mysterious accident causes every 28th Street station to be closed, with all local tracks impassable for an unknown amount of time. Express tracks are okay, as are lines with no stop at 28th Street.

 

Stations affected:

 

28th Street [theoretically 33rd Street and 23rd street as well]

28th Street [theoretically 18th Street and 23rd Street as well]

28th Street [theoretically 23rd Street as well]

 

: Trains run express between 34th & 14th Sts. Slow speed at 28th St.

: Late night trains run express between 34th & 14th Sts. Slow speed at 28th St.

: Late night trains run express between Grand Central and 14th St. Slow speed at 28th St.

: Trains run express between Grand Central and 14th St. Slow speed at 28th St.

: Weekend and late night trains run express between 34th St and Canal Sts. Slow speed at 28th St.

: Slow speed at 28th St.

: Trains run express between 34th and Canal Sts. Slow speed at 28th St.

: Trains run express between 34th & Canal Sts. Slow speed at 28th St.

[FamousNYLover]

     

 

Anyway, next up:

 

A sinkhole develops under the tracks at the Times Square station, completely closing the station.  It's a small sinkhole, enough to close that station but NOT the 6th or 8th Avenue stations on 42nd Street.    

 

This will take a month to fix.  Trains can't use the switches between 34th and 42nd on the Broadway and Broadway-7th Avenue Lines.

 

: No trains between 5th Av & 34th St-Hudson Yard. Shuttle Bus service will be provided.

: Trains run in 2 sections.

1. Between Astoria-Ditmars Blvd and 57th St-7th Av.

2. Between Whitehall St and Coney Island-Stillwell Av.

: Trains will rerouted over on line between DeKalb Av and Lexington Av-63rd St, making stop south of 57th St-6th Av.

: Service suspended.

: Trains will be rerouted over on line between 36th St and DeKalb Av. Late night service remains unchanged.

Edited February 26, 2017 by FamousNYLover

[CenSin]

Where has all the plausibility/imagination gone?

[Wallyhorse]

Where has all the plausibility/imagination gone?

This thread was dead for a long time before I brought it back.  At least I'm looking for somewhat realistic scenarios that can happen.

 

Speaking of which, next:

 

A construction accident in the vicinity of the World Trade Center has knocked out power from Vesey Street south to Morris Street and from Broadway to the Hudson River.  The Chambers Street station can be used, but other areas south of there can not, including the Joralemon tunnel BUT the Montauge tunnel can ONLY be used by the Nassau Line as that portion of the tunnel and all points south of where the Nassau portion breaks off is unaffected by this.

[CenSin]

Speaking of which, next:

 

A construction accident in the vicinity of the World Trade Center has knocked out power from Vesey Street south to Morris Street and from Broadway to the Hudson River.  The Chambers Street station can be used, but other areas south of there can not, including the Joralemon tunnel BUT the Montauge tunnel can ONLY be used by the Nassau Line as that portion of the tunnel and all points south of where the Nassau portion breaks off is unaffected by this.

You might want to draw a perimeter over a map since you gerrymandered the crap out of that.

[Wallyhorse]

You might want to draw a perimeter over a map since you gerrymandered the crap out of that.

Was just seeing how it could work because crazy stuff like I posted can happen.

 

Going to re-do it, however:

 

A construction accident in the vicinity of the World Trade Center has knocked out power from Vesey Street south and from Broadway west to the Hudson River.  The Clark Street Line is unaffected by this as it barely skirts the area that loses power, however, all of the other lines from Broadway and points west that have to go through there have lost power (though the Nassau Line can use the Montauge Tunnel since the outage only cut off power to the area immediately south of Whitehall before the two areas south of Whitehall Street merge).  Likewise, the crossover north of Borough Hall in the Joralemon tunnel can be used since only the area immediately south of Bowling Green (including South Ferry) lost power in that tunnel.

[BDNQ2345]

During the weekend 6th Ave swap, what if the power outage in Atlantic Ave.

Effected on (LIRR)

[richardye1]

Terrorists somehow hack into all of the NTTs in the system, rendering them useless. All of the NTT's are permanently disabled, leaving you with roughly 1,100 cars for the A division, and 1,700 cars for the B division. How would you alter train service?

[FamousNYLover]

During the weekend 6th Ave swap, what if the power outage in Atlantic Ave.

Effected on (LIRR)

 

Day Time:

: No trains between Chambers St and Flatbush Av. Trains rerouted over between Chambers St and South Ferry.

: No trains between Borough Hall and 148th St.

: No trains between Utica/New Lots Avs and Bowling Green.

: Delays.

: Trains run in 2 sections.

1. Between Jamaica-179th St and Whitehall St via Broadway .

2. Between 36th St-4th Av and Coney Island-Stillwell Av.

: Trains run in 2 sections.

1. Between Astoria-Ditmars Blvd and DeKalb Av via line.

: Trains run in 2 section.

1. Between 96th St-2nd Av and DeKalb Av.

2. Between Prospect Park and Coney Island.

: No trains between 59th St and Forest Hill.

LIRR: Trains rerouted to Penn Station. Except delays on all branches.

Shuttle Bus operates as follow.

1. IRT West Side Shuttle Bus operates between South Ferry and Borough Hall.

2. IRT East Side Shuttle Bus operates between Bowling Green and Borough Hall.

3. 4th Av Local Shuttle Bus operates between DeKalb Av and 59th St-4th Av making local stop.

4. 4th Av Express Shuttle Bus operates between DeKalb Av and 59th St-4th Av, stopping at Atlantic Av-Barclay Center, 4th Av-9th St and 36th St-4th Av.

5. Brighton Beach Shuttle Bus operate between DeKalb Av and Prospect Park.

[Wallyhorse]

During the weekend 6th Ave swap, what if the power outage in Atlantic Ave.

Effected on (LIRR)

Here goes:

 

ALL LIRR service is re-routed to Penn Station with select trains terminating at Jamaica

 

runs in two sections:

241st-South Ferry (via the south of Chambers and local south of Times Square)

Eastern Parkway-Flatbush Avenue

 

runs 148th Street-14th Street ONLY!

 

runs in two sections:

Woodlawn-Borough Hall

Eastern Parkway-New Lots Avenue (replacing the past Utica)

 

runs as follows:

Some trains run via the south of Roosevelt and south of Queens Plaza to Whitehall Street, where such terminate (select trains terminate at 34th Street-Herald Square)

Some trains run via the Crosstown between Roosevelt and Bergen Street and then operate via normal route through Coney Island and then continue to via the to 36th Street-4th Avenue

 

operates in two sections:

Ditmars Boulevard and Jay Street-Metrotech (via tunnel) with some trains terminating at 34th Street or Times Square

36th Street-4th Avenue and Coney Island

 

operates in two sections:

96th Street-2nd Avenue and Whitehall Street OR Jay Street-Metrotech (via the tunnel)

Prospect Park-Coney Island

 

operates as a shuttle between 59th Street and 95th Street ONLY!

[BDNQ2345]

During the 6th Ave swap weekend, what if the power want off at Times Sq/PABT

Effect:

[LongLiveRock]

A ferocious storm in Queens knocks out the power to the between Grant Avenue and Rockaway Boulevard (those two stations are fine, but everything between them is unusable). Nearby, on the , a chunk of track between Crescent Street and Cypress Hills is deemed unsafe and impassable.

[Wallyhorse]

During the 6th Ave swap weekend, what if the power want off at Times Sq/PABT

Effect: 1/2/3/7/A/C/D/E/F/N/Q/R/S

:

runs in two sections:

South Ferry to 18th Street

96th Street-242nd Street (all trains terminate on the downtown local track and uptown run express 96th-137th Street)

 

operates via the between Nevins in Brooklyn and 149th Street in The Bronx

 

operates in two sections

New Lots Avenue-14th Street

66th Street-Lincoln Center and 148th Street.  Downtown trains come in on the uptown express track and skip 86th and 79th Street before stopping at 72nd Street (running on that track) and then go to the local track at 66th, where such terminate while returning on the uptown local track to 96th Street before running regular route.

 

terminates at Grand Central

 

runs in two sections:

207th Street-Columbus Circle (local throughout)

34th Street-Lefferts Boulevard or Far Rockaway (Skips 23rd and )

 

is suspended

 

runs between 205th Street and Columbus Circle ONLY!

 

runs Jamaica Center-Lexington Avenue/53rd Street ONLY!!

 

runs via the Crosstown between Roosevelt Avenue and Bergen Street, then runs regular route to Coney Island (no West End reroute)

 

is extended via Montague to Coney Island via 4th Avenue and West End, replacing the that replaced the

 

is extended via Nassau Street and Montague to 95th Street-Bay Ridge, replacing the in Brooklyn

 

runs in two sections:

Ditmars Boulevard-57th Street

Canal Street (Tunnel Level) OR Whitehall Street to Coney Island via the tunnel

 

runs in two sections:

96th Street-2nd Avenue to 57th Street

Canal Street (Tunnel Level) OR Whitehall Street to Coney Island via the tunnel

 

runs 57th Street to 71st-Continental ONLY!!

 

Times Square is suspended

[Lawrence St]

Four separate incidents take place on 34 St, causing a shutdown of all 34 Street stations along 34th Street for security problems, while a fire at a building near Forest Hills causes that station to shut down as well, as well as West 8th St and 4 Av-9 St. It's the middle of rush hour, what do you do?

[Fresh Pond]

Four separate incidents take place on 34 St, causing a shutdown of all 34 Street stations along 34th Street for security problems, while a fire at a building near Forest Hills causes that station to shut down as well, as well as West 8th St and 4 Av-9 St. It's the middle of rush hour, what do you do?

242 St to 42 St

via Lex

148 St to 96 St

207 St to 59 St via local, Chambers St to Far Rockaway via local, shuttle Euclid to Lefferts

Suspended

Suspended

205 St to 145 St, West 4 St to Coney Island via West End Local

Suspended

179 St to Union Tpke, Roosevelt Av to 57 St via Queens Blvd local, Roosevelt Av to Smith-9 St via Crosstown, Kings Hwy to Church Av shuttle

Suspended

Metropolitan Av to Chambers St

Astoria to Queensboro Plz, Whitehall St to Coney Island via Sea Beach local

96 St to 42 St, Prospect Park to Brighton Beach

36 St to 95 St

Suspended

Edited March 4, 2017 by Turtle

[FamousNYLover]

Four separate incidents take place on 34 St, causing a shutdown of all 34 Street stations along 34th Street for security problems, while a fire at a building near Forest Hills causes that station to shut down as well, as well as West 8th St and 4 Av-9 St. It's the middle of rush hour, what do you do?

: No trains between Times Sq-42nd St and South Ferry. Shuttle Bus will be provided south of Chambers St.

: Runs via between 149th & Nevins Sts.

: No trains between 148th & 14th Sts. Trains will make local stop in Manhattan.

: No trains between 34th St-Hudson Yard and Times Sq-42nd St.

: Trains run in 2 sections.

1. Between 207th and 42nd Sts via local.

2. Between Canal St and Ozone Park/Rockaways.

: Service suspended.

: Train service suspended.

: Train run in 2 section.

1. Between 205th St and 42nd St.

2. Between Broadway-Lafayette and Coney Island.

: No trains between Union Turnpike and World Trade Center.

: Trains run as 2 section.

1. Between Jamaica-179th St and 75th Av.

2. Between Delancey-Essex Sts and Coney Island.

: No trains between Forest Hill and Delancey-Essex Sts. Trains rerouted to line to Broad St.

: Trains run in 2 sections. 2 train engineers will be stand by at end cars.

1. Between Astoria-Ditmars Blvd and Times Sq, then run via line to 96th St-2nd Av.

2. Between Whitehall St and Coney Island.

: No trains between Atlantic Av and 96th St-2nd Av.

: Trains run in 2 section.

1. Between 65th St and 42nd St .

2. Between 14th St-Union Sq and Bay Ridge. Train supervisor will be at Union Sq and City Hall to direct traffic.

PATH: No Midtown service. All 33rd St trains rerouted to Hoboken during this time.

[Wallyhorse]

Something a little less crazy:

The Canal street complex from Broadway to Lafayette Street suffers a power outage due to a transformer explosion that will take at least a day to fix, knocking out service to and from that station on the Broadway, Lexington and Nassau Street Lines (the Manhattan Bridge is unaffected by this).  This will take at least a day to get back to normal.

Edited March 9, 2017 by Wallyhorse

[CenSin]

Something a little less crazy:

 

The Canal street complex from Broadway to Lafayette Street suffers a power outage due to a transformer explosion that will take at least a day to fix, knocking out service to and from that station on the Broadway, Lexington and Nassau Street Lines (the Manhattan Bridge is unaffected by this).  This will take at least a day to get back to normal.

Who does the wiring for these stations anyway? It’s like they designed the installation to allow for this kind of convenient scenario.

[Tonyboy515]

Something a little less crazy:

 

The Canal street complex from Broadway to Lafayette Street suffers a power outage due to a transformer explosion that will take at least a day to fix, knocking out service to and from that station on the Broadway, Lexington and Nassau Street Lines (the Manhattan Bridge is unaffected by this). This will take at least a day to get back to normal.

Alright, here I go:

 

Essex Street to Jamaica Center

 

Normal Service, Select trains terminate at 2nd Avenue to make room for trains

 

Coney Island to Whitehall Street via tunnel, select trains run to 96th Street via 6th Avenue

 

runs via 6th Avenue Express between DeKalb Avenue and 63rd Street

 

Bay Ridge to Forest Hills via Bridge, 6th Avenue Express and 53rd Street

 

34th Street to Astoria, transfer at 34th for

 

Grand Central to Woodlawn and Bowling Green to Utica Avenue

 

runs vía 7th Avenue Express

 

runs between Grand Central and Pelham Bay Park

 

 

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[CenSin]

Something a little less crazy:

 

The Canal street complex from Broadway to Lafayette Street suffers a power outage due to a transformer explosion that will take at least a day to fix, knocking out service to and from that station on the Broadway, Lexington and Nassau Street Lines (the Manhattan Bridge is unaffected by this).  This will take at least a day to get back to normal.

runs between Brooklyn Bridge–City Hall at reduced frequencies. Bronx service runs between 125 Street and Grand Central–42 Street at reduced frequency. Additional Bronx service runs between Woodlawn and 149 Street–Grand Concourse.

runs via 7 Avenue express.

runs between Pelham Bay Park and Grand Central–42 Street.

runs to Myrtle Avenue with select trains extended to Delancey Street–Essex Street.

runs as normal with increased frequency.

runs as normal, but local between Canal Street and 57 Street–7 Avenue with higher frequency.

runs as normal.

runs to South Ferry–Whitehall Street only. For stops from South Ferry–Whitehall Street to Lexington Avenue/59 Street, passengers are advised to transfer to the , , , , , , , , or trains. Passengers requiring service from Queens Plaza to Forest Hills–71 Avenue can transfer to the , , or at 34 Street–Herald Square, Times Square–42 Street, or Queensboro Plaza (amongst many others).

is canceled.

is canceled.

[Lawrence St]

During the Saint Patrick's day parade and everybody is going home, power suddenly is lost to the CPW line from 59th Street to 145th Street. At the same time, a transformer fails along 6th Avenue, knocking out service between West 4th Street and Grand St/2 Avenue.

 

What do you do?

[CenSin]

Next (autumn season):

 

An old mentally unsound lady was collecting wet leaves (instead of bottles and cans) in the middle of the foggy night on the active Brighton Line. Lucky for her, massive train congestion prevented the usual train traffic from traversing the line for a few hours. By the time she gets up off the tracks and onto the Newkirk Plaza station, decides it’s all pointless and scatters all of her garbage bags full of wet leaves thoroughly. By AM rush normal train service should have resumed, but they discover that Newkirk Plaza is impassable due to leaves completely covering all of the tracks.