Cait Sith Posted December 6, 2012 Share #276 Posted December 6, 2012 In my eyes, these and the #7000s are just updated NGs.Is it true that the 3Gs and the OGs are slightly shorter then the NGs? Nope. the 3Gs, NGs and OGs are all the same height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 6, 2012 Share #277 Posted December 6, 2012 I got to see one in service on the N22 earlier tonight. Too bad I was too far back from Hillside Avenue to see what number it was. I thought something was odd about the side sign and then noticed how low the "n22" was on the rear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted December 6, 2012 Share #278 Posted December 6, 2012 I got to see one in service on the N22 earlier tonight. Too bad I was too far back from Hillside Avenue to see what number it was. I thought something was odd about the side sign and then noticed how low the "n22" was on the rear... It's so awkward isn't it? Gonna take some getting used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 6, 2012 Share #279 Posted December 6, 2012 Yeah, I don't get why they placed those numbers like that. Perhaps to set them apart from the earlier 2010-2011 #1800s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 6, 2012 Share #280 Posted December 6, 2012 Saw another on the N22 and another on the N6... they're rolling in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted December 8, 2012 Share #281 Posted December 8, 2012 It's like every time PinePower enlightens us with something one of his buddy retired or ex nice bus drivers tells him the universe quickly shows us proof that he had to open up wide and put his foot in his mouth. PinePower, like I told you before, don't believe everything you hear. Exactly. The operative phrase is 'consider the source'. Some drivers or mechanics may have a reliable source within the organization to get the scoop on what really is going on, but many times all they are repeating is workplace gossip. In my own job, I've had a few instances when operations employees told me something that 'the company' supposedly planned to do and swore it was true when I knew for a fact that they were completely misinformed and were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 8, 2012 Share #282 Posted December 8, 2012 As long as the ride is just like last year's order of NGs I won't mind. What I wonder is why the newest buses are always deployed on routes that run into the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 8, 2012 Share #283 Posted December 8, 2012 To show them off of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted December 9, 2012 Share #284 Posted December 9, 2012 Interesting indeed, I also wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 9, 2012 Share #285 Posted December 9, 2012 Interesting indeed, I also wonder why? Simply to improve passenger perception of NICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted December 9, 2012 Share #286 Posted December 9, 2012 The new buses are being sent out to the far east... Spotted 1843 on the n19 this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 9, 2012 Share #287 Posted December 9, 2012 As long as the ride is just like last year's order of NGs I won't mind. What I wonder is why the newest buses are always deployed on routes that run into the city. Having been on these, they ride much better than the previous 1800s. The new buses are being sent out to the far east... Spotted 1843 on the n19 this evening. Also saw one on the n70 on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted December 10, 2012 Share #288 Posted December 10, 2012 Having been on these, they ride much better than the previous 1800s. Is the seating configured the same way? The original 1800's leave a little to be desired as far as leg room goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 10, 2012 Share #289 Posted December 10, 2012 Is the seating configured the same way? The original 1800's leave a little to be desired as far as leg room goes. Yep, same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 10, 2012 Share #290 Posted December 10, 2012 Still beats the 1700s though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 10, 2012 Share #291 Posted December 10, 2012 Anything beats that particular order. That one week of June it was well over 85 and humid I was on an N43 bound for Hempstead (this was before NICE realized that NCC is relatively empty during the summer and decided the extension was only effective during the fall and spring semesters) the A/C didn't work and the bus operator was new.... I loved it over the air conditioned ride it that NG I had to ride after. Even something as minor as LIRR crossings or sewer grates caused the entire thing to shake. The rear was mildly better - if the bus took a huge bump your legs would hit the back of the seat in front of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinePower Posted December 10, 2012 Share #292 Posted December 10, 2012 The 1700s ride similar to Gillig Phantoms, actually I think they may be worse. Hopefully something can be done long term with the suspension since I dont see those things lasting another 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinePower Posted December 10, 2012 Share #293 Posted December 10, 2012 So far I've seen 1847 on the n22, 1844 on the n79, and this one at Roosevelt Field tonight. (I still hadnt had any on any of the buses I've been taking but hopefully soon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted December 10, 2012 Share #294 Posted December 10, 2012 Anything beats that particular order. That one week of June it was well over 85 and humid I was on an N43 bound for Hempstead (this was before NICE realized that NCC is relatively empty during the summer and decided the extension was only effective during the fall and spring semesters) the A/C didn't work and the bus operator was new.... I loved it over the air conditioned ride it that NG I had to ride after. Even something as minor as LIRR crossings or sewer grates caused the entire thing to shake. The rear was mildly better - if the bus took a huge bump your legs would hit the back of the seat in front of you. The 1700s ride similar to Gillig Phantoms, actually I think they may be worse. Hopefully something can be done long term with the suspension since I dont see those things lasting another 10 years. Keep in mind these buses Oron buses are a product of Daimler, freighter trucks by Daimler are lovingly referred to as freight shakers when it comes to buses the freight is people. Trucking companties spend a little extra to give drivers a truck that won't shake the hell out of them but when it comes to transit the only thing that matters is who offers the lower price in response to the RFP. I've been on some Orion's that've thrown my back out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted December 10, 2012 Share #295 Posted December 10, 2012 School buses are worse! As a driver I wish these manufacturers would care what they are doing to drivers backs. Look at how some people who have driven for 20 years walk, these buses are giving people who serve the community for decades disabling back condirions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 10, 2012 Share #296 Posted December 10, 2012 Hound and a crapload of LIB veterans (we're talking before the first Orion V was even built) complained about the old Phantoms all the time. The diesel Orion Vs, on the other hand, were still running in 2008! And honestly, I know Orion was on hard times but they couldn't have kept the destination sign in the middle like NJT's NABIs with the number being on the upper left like it is on the NGs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 10, 2012 Share #297 Posted December 10, 2012 Hound and a crapload of LIB veterans (we're talking before the first Orion V was even built) complained about the old Phantoms all the time. The diesel Orion Vs, on the other hand, were still running in 2008! And honestly, I know Orion was on hard times but they couldn't have kept the destination sign in the middle like NJT's NABIs with the number being on the upper left like it is on the NGs? If you're talking about the rear destination sign, with new designs come new changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 10, 2012 Share #298 Posted December 10, 2012 Persoanlly, I like the old NG rear better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted December 12, 2012 Share #299 Posted December 12, 2012 saw 1851 on the N51. it was amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 13, 2012 Share #300 Posted December 13, 2012 Got to ride 1856 Tuesday. I love the new bus smell but it doesn't feel "new" like the NGs did last year. It was eerie, though, knowing that I was riding on one of the last Orions to be ever built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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