User Posted December 1, 2012 Share #251 Posted December 1, 2012 looks like these NEW NICE 3G's started service on the n6, 1843, has a allison tranny just like the older 17/1800's: Something is so odd about the destination sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 1, 2012 Share #252 Posted December 1, 2012 Something is so odd about the destination sign. because its a different type of dest. sign, BTW 1841 is on the n24, it should be back on its way to jamaica from roosevelt feid, i got shots of it in jamaica earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted December 1, 2012 Share #253 Posted December 1, 2012 Something is so odd about the destination sign. I believe those are Hanovers. @Chris: Do these buses have the lighting system like 1760-1839? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted December 1, 2012 Share #254 Posted December 1, 2012 I believe those are Hanovers. @Chris: Do these buses have the lighting system like 1760-1839? I don't even know, but most likely they do, I didn't even ride these buses yet, i just saw 2 of em, one last night and one over an hour ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty24 Posted December 1, 2012 Share #255 Posted December 1, 2012 because its a different type of dest. sign, BTW 1841 is on the n24, it should be back on its way to jamaica from roosevelt feid, i got shots of it in jamaica earlier 1841 was on the N23 this morning. 1842's sign doesn't even work it was on the N43 early this afternoon. Paper signs where in the windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted December 2, 2012 Share #256 Posted December 2, 2012 Odd that the new signs aren't working, I wonder why...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted December 2, 2012 Share #257 Posted December 2, 2012 Why would they get Hanovers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted December 2, 2012 Share #258 Posted December 2, 2012 I believe those are Hanovers. Unbelievable, the titans were perfect for Long Island Bus/Nassau Inter-County Express, especially with some of the new programs that were being made. JAMAICA and FLUSHING in bold across the whole screen looked great. Its gonna take a while for me to get used to those Hanovers. 1841 was on the N23 this morning. 1842's sign doesn't even work it was on the N43 early this afternoon. Paper signs where in the windows. I saw a 3G tonight on the n20, you could tell by the ugly dest. sign. The bus was heading to Hicksville and was in Manhasset, empty, no passengers. That's another thing, ridership on the n20 has definitely dropped. Not necessarily on weekends, but on weekdays, you can tell. Odd that the new signs aren't working, I wonder why...? Ha! What a question... Why would they get Hanovers... Because they make mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted December 2, 2012 Share #259 Posted December 2, 2012 Ha! What a question... Why? Unbelievable, the titans were perfect for Long Island Bus/Nassau Inter-County Express, especially with some of the new programs that were being made. JAMAICA and FLUSHING in bold across the whole screen looked great. Agreed. I personally feel only the destination (as large as possible) is needed. We don't need any "via (route)" on the sign. People need to see where the bus is headed to see of it the bus going in their direction. All this other crap takes longer for the rider to process where the bus is going and is a waste because it's not like there are multiple routes per line. It's not like anyone needs to see, "ah, this the n4 via Merrick Rd not via Sunrise Highway." This is not the 1950's, technology is abundant people don't need the bus to tell them what route it takes "oh great, the n4 uses Merrick Rd. I can use it to get to my doctor's office on Merrick Rd." People already have their route down before they leave their place to get on the bus or are looking on their smart phone. Why would they get Hanovers... I wonder if had any reason to do with the fact that Orion was shutting down? Maybe orders that used up parts on hand got a discount or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 2, 2012 Share #260 Posted December 2, 2012 Weird thing is every N20 headed to Hicksville I see gets crowded. People here are starting to take the LIRR just a few stations away because of the speed. Even if they have to stand for five minutes, they get on - it's better than 20 minutes sitting down. What puts me off about these things is the rear grille. Couldn't they have put the destination sign somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted December 2, 2012 Share #261 Posted December 2, 2012 Why? Well for one thing, NICE's knowledge on destination sign programming is inferior. Spelling mistakes, small route numbers and glitching (PROMOTIONAL BUS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted December 2, 2012 Share #262 Posted December 2, 2012 I personally feel only the destination (as large as possible) is needed. We don't need any "via (route)" on the sign. People need to see where the bus is headed to see of it the bus going in their direction. All this other crap takes longer for the rider to process where the bus is going and is a waste because it's not like there are multiple routes per line. I disagree here. The current level of detail is sufficient, although the alternating frames should be revised to put the destination on all signs except LTD/EXP. And some of the names can be shortened Examples: n20 Flushing/Main St Sta n20 via Northern Blvd n20 Limited becomes n20 Flushing/Main St n20 Flushing/via Northern Blvd n20 Limited n79 S Huntington/Whitman Mall n79 via Old Country Road becomes n79 Walt Whitman Mall/via Old Country Rd (one frame, two lines) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted December 2, 2012 Share #263 Posted December 2, 2012 I disagree here. The current level of detail is sufficient, although the alternating frames should be revised to put the destination on all signs except LTD/EXP. And some of the names can be shortened Examples: n20 Flushing/Main St Sta n20 via Northern Blvd n20 Limited becomes n20 Flushing/Main St n20 Flushing/via Northern Blvd n20 Limited n79 S Huntington/Whitman Mall n79 via Old Country Road becomes n79 Walt Whitman Mall/via Old Country Rd (one frame, two lines) Isn't the current n79 one frame except it doesn't say via Old Country Rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted December 3, 2012 Share #264 Posted December 3, 2012 1844... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtattrain Posted December 3, 2012 Share #265 Posted December 3, 2012 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 3, 2012 Share #266 Posted December 3, 2012 What odd number placement on the side.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted December 5, 2012 Share #267 Posted December 5, 2012 Some people are posting that these are Next Generations, some are saying these are 2nd generations, and then some are saying these are 3rd Generations. What is really the appropriate naming for these new 2012 Orions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 5, 2012 Share #268 Posted December 5, 2012 Some people are posting that these are Next Generations, some are saying these are 2nd generations, and then some are saying these are 3rd Generations. What is really the appropriate naming for these new 2012 Orions? Simply the 2012 Orion VII 3.G. (3rd Generation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted December 5, 2012 Share #269 Posted December 5, 2012 Simply the 2012 Orion VII 3.G. (3rd Generation) Officially it's the Orion VII EPA10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted December 5, 2012 Share #270 Posted December 5, 2012 Officially it's the Orion VII EPA10. My apologies. I really was never the expert at Orion's newer products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 5, 2012 Share #271 Posted December 5, 2012 Officially it's the Orion VII EPA10. Says who? When the new design was released, DaimlerChrysler/Orion just labeled it as the Orion VII....the EPA10 is only based on its specifications as it is supposed to be EPA10 compliant. Anywho, here's a bit of a sneak peek at them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted December 5, 2012 Share #272 Posted December 5, 2012 Says who? When the new design was released, DaimlerChrysler/Orion just labeled it as the Orion VII....the EPA10 is only based on its specifications as it is supposed to be EPA10 compliant. Last I checked the Orion website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted December 5, 2012 Share #273 Posted December 5, 2012 Last I checked the Orion website... Hem, managed to dig up the old site, it has both labelings. Such confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtattrain Posted December 5, 2012 Share #274 Posted December 5, 2012 My apologies. I really was never the expert at Orion's newer products. "3rd generation" still works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgood6195 Posted December 5, 2012 Share #275 Posted December 5, 2012 In my eyes, these and the #7000s are just updated NGs.Is it true that the 3Gs and the OGs are slightly shorter then the NGs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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