Park Slope Parents Want City To Freeze Out Ice Cream Trucks.

[checkmatechamp13]

This isn't rocket science though. The parents want the processed stuff out and would prefer healthier natural or organic options. They are open to organic ice cream trucks, but quite frankly I doubt they want the park with just those around too, because as I said before just because something is organic doesn't mean it's healthy. I am friends with an Italian chick and she is pretty much the same with her kids.

 

 

But that's the thing, though. If they really feel that strongly about processed ice cream, then don't buy it for your kids, and give them organic ice cream when they get home. That kicking and screaming is just a natural part of being a parent.

 

And yeah, organic stuff isn't necessarily healthier than the regular stuff in excess. I checked some of the labels on some organic soda and it had more sugar than the regular brands, so even if it's natural sugar, too much is bad (this isn't contradicting your point or anything)

[Via Garibaldi 8]

But that's the thing, though. If they really feel that strongly about processed ice cream, then don't buy it for your kids, and give them organic ice cream when they get home. That kicking and screaming is just a natural part of being a parent.

 

And yeah, organic stuff isn't necessarily healthier than the regular stuff in excess. I checked some of the labels on some organic soda and it had more sugar than the regular brands, so even if it's natural sugar, too much is bad (this isn't contradicting your point or anything)

 

 

You're missing my point. Could they give them organic ice cream at home? Of course, but that's not the point. The issue here more than anything is CHOICE. They don't want trucks there with processed food, and they WANT the option of being able to have trucks that offer organic options should they decide to want food while in the park. It's about convenience and having options. Here in Riverdale I basically go to Key Food for only a few items, although they surprisingly carry a decent amount of organic and natural food options, but they can be pricier, so I go to other places. Things like Organic Valley I'll get there since it is the same price just about everywhere ($4.99). They also carry Cascadian Farms and Back to Nature which offer organic and natural cereals, so if the price is in line with what I usually pay I'll pick up something. Quite frankly I would like to have a natural food store here in Riverdale (there was one on Johnson Avenue by 235th street, a block away from me, but I believe it closed down for whatever reason and I am not going to Kingsbridge since it is easier and quicker to just go to the city where there are more options, which is what a lot of folks in Riverdale do). I would prefer to patronize as many stores here in Riverdale as possible for the obvious reason. The more options I have here for natural and organic food the better, not to mention that the money stays in the neighborhood by supporting neighborhood businesses and it is the same idea with the parents in Park Slope. The more places they can go for organic or natural food in Park Slope, the better it is for them. More competition means more access, which can mean better prices and it also makes these products more readily available for the kids as well. If the parents want the kids to have organic ice cream they have to schlepp home rather than stay in the park and enjoy the ice cream there. That's the point I was making. As someone who eats natural and organic food, while more places are around, it is still limited, esp. since I don't shop at Trader Joe's and only shop at a select specialty stores and Whole Foods. If Whole Foods is closed, I basically just go to stores that I know have some natural or organic items and pick up a few things there if they're reasonably priced or otherwise I just don't get anything at all, which is annoying, so this isn't just about parenting and controlling their kids. It's about them wanting more accessibility to organic and natural foods.

[checkmatechamp13]

But I don't think that's the main argument, though. In the first article, it says "they would consider allowing socially conscious and organic ice cream trucks to sell within the park."

 

They're not saying "Give us organic ice cream vendors". They're saying "We don't want any vendors, but if they must come, then we want organic vendors". The main complaint seems to be that their kids go crazy whenever they hear an ice cream truck, and they just don't want to deal with their kids' complaints, so they want the trucks banned.

 

In any case, I don't think a vendor would really go for organic ice cream because they probably make more profit selling the regular ice cream, even in an area like Park Slope.

[DJ MC]

This is my reaction to this story. A retro facepalm.

 

[Joe]

f**k 'em. Take them and their children back to wherever the hell they came from. Wisconsin can have their hipster family back.

[Joel Up Front]

You're missing my point. Could they give them organic ice cream at home? Of course, but that's not the point. The issue here more than anything is CHOICE. They don't want trucks there with processed food, and they WANT the option of being able to have trucks that offer organic options should they decide to want food while in the park. It's about convenience and having options. Here in Riverdale I basically go to Key Food for only a few items, although they surprisingly carry a decent amount of organic and natural food options, but they can be pricier, so I go to other places. Things like Organic Valley I'll get there since it is the same price just about everywhere ($4.99). They also carry Cascadian Farms and Back to Nature which offer organic and natural cereals, so if the price is in line with what I usually pay I'll pick up something. Quite frankly I would like to have a natural food store here in Riverdale (there was one on Johnson Avenue by 235th street, a block away from me, but I believe it closed down for whatever reason and I am not going to Kingsbridge since it is easier and quicker to just go to the city where there are more options, which is what a lot of folks in Riverdale do). I would prefer to patronize as many stores here in Riverdale as possible for the obvious reason. The more options I have here for natural and organic food the better, not to mention that the money stays in the neighborhood by supporting neighborhood businesses and it is the same idea with the parents in Park Slope. The more places they can go for organic or natural food in Park Slope, the better it is for them. More competition means more access, which can mean better prices and it also makes these products more readily available for the kids as well. If the parents want the kids to have organic ice cream they have to schlepp home rather than stay in the park and enjoy the ice cream there. That's the point I was making. As someone who eats natural and organic food, while more places are around, it is still limited, esp. since I don't shop at Trader Joe's and only shop at a select specialty stores and Whole Foods. If Whole Foods is closed, I basically just go to stores that I know have some natural or organic items and pick up a few things there if they're reasonably priced or otherwise I just don't get anything at all, which is annoying, so this isn't just about parenting and controlling their kids. It's about them wanting more accessibility to organic and natural foods.

 

 

 

I tried "natural" vanilla yogurt once. It tasted like spit mixed with cigarette tobacco.

[Cait Sith]

What happened to parenting these days?

 

 

If that actually exists in this day in age (or existed), that went faaaaaaaaaaaaarrr down into that drain!

[Via Garibaldi 8]

 

I tried "natural" vanilla yogurt once. It tasted like spit mixed with cigarette tobacco.

 

 

Two things... There are all sorts of yogurts in the stores and some of them do taste like crap. All depends on how they're made. A really tasty one of Wallaby's Vanilla Bean Non-Fat yogurt. They use an Australian method for making the yogurt. I get it in Whole Foods for $1.19. It's almost like having ice cream.

 

But I don't think that's the main argument, though. In the first article, it says "they would consider allowing socially conscious and organic ice cream trucks to sell within the park."

 

They're not saying "Give us organic ice cream vendors". They're saying "We don't want any vendors, but if they must come, then we want organic vendors". The main complaint seems to be that their kids go crazy whenever they hear an ice cream truck, and they just don't want to deal with their kids' complaints, so they want the trucks banned.

 

In any case, I don't think a vendor would really go for organic ice cream because they probably make more profit selling the regular ice cream, even in an area like Park Slope.

 

 

You are right to a degree, but there is no way that these folks would want to ban trucks that sold healthy natural or organic options. As you said, if they must have trucks there that sell ice cream, they would prefer for it to be organic, but as I said earlier, they also know that ice cream, be it organic or processed ice cream, if made with the traditional ingredients is not healthy. I'm sure they would open to say a low fat organic frozen yogurt sort of truck or any sort of truck that sold healthy options. The things that I mentioned about wanting choice and convenience are not their main argument, but believe me if they could have more organic healthy options around they would prefer that and would like to see less processed options around. I'm speaking from my own personal experiences as a consumer but also as someone who has friends with kids that prefer that they eat natural or organic food.

 

As for your assumption that no vendor would want to sell organic ice cream because they could make more money that is completely wrong. There are plenty of new organic and natural vendors coming into the market that are becoming very popular, precisely because there is a growing market for organic and natural products. In fact I was watching the Cooking Channel a few weeks ago and this young businesswoman just started up her own company selling natural popsickles in all sorts of different flavors and she has had tons of success. Her idea started precisely because she didn't like the ice cream trucks because they sold the processed stuff, so she started her own company using natural ingredients. Park Slope would be the perfect place for a organic ice cream truck. It is just a question of that person knowing how to market themselves accordingly. Not everyone is obsessed with making the maximum profit which is what you also assume. I said earlier that the profit margins are slim for organic vendors, but that doesn't mean that they can't earn a nice profit. If you're popular enough you can do very well. A perfect example would be Organic Valley. Their products sell very well even though they are a small family owned business because they have a market of folks that will pay a bit more for their products and they've made contacts with the right stores to sell their goods in neighborhoods where folks will buy their goods.

[MHV9218]

Two things... There are all sorts of yogurts in the stores and some of them do taste like crap. All depends on how they're made. A really tasty one of Wallaby's Vanilla Bean Non-Fat yogurt. They use an Australian method for making the yogurt. I get it in Whole Foods for $1.19. It's almost like having ice cream.

 

 

 

You are right to a degree, but there is no way that these folks would want to ban trucks that sold healthy natural or organic options. As you said, if they must have trucks there that sell ice cream, they would prefer for it to be organic, but as I said earlier, they also know that ice cream, be it organic or processed ice cream, if made with the traditional ingredients is not healthy. I'm sure they would open to say a low fat organic frozen yogurt sort of truck or any sort of truck that sold healthy options. The things that I mentioned about wanting choice and convenience are not their main argument, but believe me if they could have more organic healthy options around they would prefer that and would like to see less processed options around. I'm speaking from my own personal experiences as a consumer but also as someone who has friends with kids that prefer that they eat natural or organic food.

 

As for your assumption that no vendor would want to sell organic ice cream because they could make more money that is completely wrong. There are plenty of new organic and natural vendors coming into the market that are becoming very popular, precisely because there is a growing market for organic and natural products. In fact I was watching the Cooking Channel a few weeks ago and this young businesswoman just started up her own company selling natural popsickles in all sorts of different flavors and she has had tons of success. Her idea started precisely because she didn't like the ice cream trucks because they sold the processed stuff, so she started her own company using natural ingredients. Park Slope would be the perfect place for a organic ice cream truck. It is just a question of that person knowing how to market themselves accordingly. Not everyone is obsessed with making the maximum profit which is what you also assume. I said earlier that the profit margins are slim for organic vendors, but that doesn't mean that they can't earn a nice profit. If you're popular enough you can do very well. A perfect example would be Organic Valley. Their products sell very well even though they are a small family owned business because they have a market of folks that will pay a bit more for their products and they've made contacts with the right stores to sell their goods in neighborhoods where folks will buy their goods.

 

 

There's just a basic concept you're ignoring here: the parents on going on the offensive towards the business because of their lackluster parenting skills. That's a cop out of grand proportions. It's like a gambler asking for the removal of all casinos, because they just can't help but wanna waste money.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

There's just a basic concept you're ignoring here: the parents on going on the offensive towards the business because of their lackluster parenting skills. That's a cop out of grand proportions. It's like a gambler asking for the removal of all casinos, because they just can't help but wanna waste money.

 

 

I'm not missing the basic concept. If you want to argue that then explain why parents around the country are demanding that the menus be changed to provide their kids with more healthier menus? Are they also incapable of telling their kids no to junk food? Furthermore, if they really lacked parenting skills, they wouldn't have stated that they would consider having trucks that sell organic ice cream. It is funny that you are attacking these particular parents when they are pushing for the removal of trucks that are doing nothing but contributing to the obesity problem of children across the country. These parents aren't the culprits here. The culprits are the vendors that are pushing the junk food while looking to boost their profits.

[rr4567]

Why can't they just tell their children no? Those ice cream trucks have been here for dozens of years, and now it's a problem? Instead of worrying about the ice cream trucks, they should worry about why they can't tell their children no.

 

These parents aren't the culprits here. The culprits are the vendors that are pushing the junk food while looking to boost their profits.

 

I don't see ice cream trucks trying to push junk food. They all do the same thing: drive around and wait for someone to flag them down. Some sit in one place and let people walk up to them. Hardly pushing product.

[NX Express]

If you want to argue that then explain why parents around the country are demanding that the menus be changed to provide their kids with more healthier menus? Are they also incapable of telling their kids no to junk food?

 

Yes, when a kid is in school it is impossible to force him to not eat junk food.

 

 

Also, if an organic ice cream seller could have made a profit, there would have been one by now. Supply and demand in action. No supply is almost always an indicator of no (or almost no) demand.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Why can't they just tell their children no? Those ice cream trucks have been here for dozens of years, and now it's a problem? Instead of worrying about the ice cream trucks, they should worry about why they can't tell their children no.

 

 

I don't see ice cream trucks trying to push junk food. They all do the same thing: drive around and wait for someone to flag them down. Some sit in one place and let people walk up to them. Hardly pushing product.

 

 

Whose to say that they aren't telling their kids no? Just because they want the ice cream trucks out doesn't mean that they can't control their kids. They're worried about their kids' health, and with the obesity levels of children in this country they should be. Kids these days are surrounded with nothing but fast food restaurants and junk food. The availability of fast food has grown significantly from the time that I was a kid and if all these kids see are ice cream trucks and fast food places all over the place, they're going to think that eating that nonsense is the norm. That's exactly one reason why the obesity rates are so high amongst children, something that everyone here repeatedly overlooks. The availability of fast food and junk food compared to healthy options is significantly higher in many communities and kids will often go for what is readily available. That's just the way it is. They don't know any better. They just know that they want "X" and "X" is easily convenient for them so they go for it. The ice cream trucks have been there for years and their presence over the years has certainly helped contribute to the obesity of kids in this country. Second hand smoke was the norm for years, but doesn't mean that it was okay. It kills thousands of folks a year. The "norm" isn't always okay.

 

And yes these vendors are indeed pushing their product. If they surround the park with their ice cream trucks going about then they are not just innocently driving around. They know that playing their music draws folks to their trucks.

 

 

 

 

Yes, when a kid is in school it is impossible to force him to not eat junk food.

 

It's only impossible if the kid has no other options around him or her. Schools that have changed their menus to offer organic options have gotten children to give up junk food, so your comment is incorrect. It is all about convenience and education. Kids need to not only be educated to eat right, but they also must have access to healthy options. When I was in school, it was nearly impossible to get anything but junk food. The vending machines were filled with soda and potato chips and cookies. The lunch food we got was usually pizza, hamburgers and fries or some other junk. Rarely was there anything offered of nutritional value.

 

The schools that have made changes to their menus have seem significant improvement in how the kids eat. They let the kids become involved in growing their food right there at school and they learn to appreciate having fresh food better and enjoy it because it tastes better than the processed stuff.

 

Also, if an organic ice cream seller could have made a profit, there would have been one by now. Supply and demand in action. No supply is almost always an indicator of no (or almost no) demand.

 

 

Not necessarily. This organic craze is relatively new in this country ,mainly because the high rates of obesity in this country. Places like Whole Foods have only been in NYC for 6 -7 years at the most, which is not that long. Availability is organic foods is still a work in progress as more vendors change their mindset to offer more natural and organic products.

[NX Express]

Schools that have changed their menus to offer organic options have gotten children to give up junk food, so your comment is incorrect.

 

 

Do schools that offer organic food still offer processed pizza and other similar food? I didn't think so. So that's not a fair comparison.

 

And if the parents wanted access to healthy options, they can either bring a healthy snack with them or go to a nearby store. Or they, as a neighborhood, can get an organic food vendor and subsidize the losses.

[rr4567]

Whose to say that they aren't telling their kids no? Just because they want the ice cream trucks out doesn't mean that they can't control their kids. They're worried about their kids' health, and with the obesity levels of children in this country they should be. Kids these days are surrounded with nothing but fast food restaurants and junk food. The availability of fast food has grown significantly from the time that I was a kid and if all these kids see are ice cream trucks and fast food places all over the place, they're going to think that eating that nonsense is the norm. That's exactly one reason why the obesity rates are so high amongst children, something that everyone here repeatedly overlooks. The availability of fast food and junk food compared to healthy options is significantly higher in many communities and kids will often go for what is readily available. That's just the way it is. They don't know any better. They just know that they want "X" and "X" is easily convenient for them so they go for it. The ice cream trucks have been there for years and their presence over the years has certainly helped contribute to the obesity of kids in this country. Second hand smoke was the norm for years, but doesn't mean that it was okay. It kills thousands of folks a year. The "norm" isn't always okay.

 

And yes these vendors are indeed pushing their product. If they surround the park with their ice cream trucks going about then they are not just innocently driving around. They know that playing their music draws folks to their trucks.

 

The kids need to learn how to control themselves. They shouldn't take away the choice because of that. Compared to the slop that gets sold at places like McDonald's, I don't think an ice cream cone is a main culprit. Heck, even fast food places are serving healthy* stuff now too, so the point about convenience has less of a standing. Now I'm not saying that ice cream is particularly healthy, but, in my opinion, they should be more worried about the fast food places on every corner rather than the ice cream trucks. Many more people go to McDonald's to get a $1 cheeseburger than people go to an ice cream truck and buy a $1 ice cream cone.

 

(*ha. healthy.)

[NX Express]

The kids need to learn how to control themselves.

A lot easier said than done. The kids don't understand why they can't get ice cream.

[checkmatechamp13]

Do schools that offer organic food still offer processed pizza and other similar food? I didn't think so. So that's not a fair comparison.

 

And if the parents wanted access to healthy options, they can either bring a healthy snack with them or go to a nearby store. Or they, as a neighborhood, can get an organic food vendor and subsidize the losses.

 

LOL. What kid would choose soy chips when they have regular potato chips as an option? If I'm a kid, I don't care if the food is healthy for me. All I care is if it tastes good.

[Grand Concourse]

The kids need to learn how to control themselves. They shouldn't take away the choice because of that. Compared to the slop that gets sold at places like McDonald's, I don't think an ice cream cone is a main culprit. Heck, even fast food places are serving healthy* stuff now too, so the point about convenience has less of a standing. Now I'm not saying that ice cream is particularly healthy, but, in my opinion, they should be more worried about the fast food places on every corner rather than the ice cream trucks. Many more people go to McDonald's to get a $1 cheeseburger than people go to an ice cream truck and buy a $1 ice cream cone.

 

(*ha. healthy.)

Yup. Even lately I rarely see the ice cream trucks running up/down my street compared to years past. Now as for being around a park, they'll always be there.

Do schools that offer organic food still offer processed pizza and other similar food? I didn't think so. So that's not a fair comparison.

 

And if the parents wanted access to healthy options, they can either bring a healthy snack with them or go to a nearby store. Or they, as a neighborhood, can get an organic food vendor and subsidize the losses.

Totally agreed. Parents are the 'first line of defense', they should be the ones taking active steps to make their kids eat healthier compared to whining and taking legal actions to ban something. Banning something is just pushing aside the real problem - themselves for just differing the issue of dealing with their kids. As for introducing healthy 'organic foods', it can't be a total replacement. You have to wean the kids off the junk food gradually as kids taste buds are far different from that of adults and they in general don't like anything that tastes too bitter (try getting them to eat their vegetables). So I'm not against kids eating healthy, but at the same time I don't agree with an outright change in the menu.

Why can't they just tell their children no? Those ice cream trucks have been here for dozens of years, and now it's a problem? Instead of worrying about the ice cream trucks, they should worry about why they can't tell their children no.

 

 

I don't see ice cream trucks trying to push junk food. They all do the same thing: drive around and wait for someone to flag them down. Some sit in one place and let people walk up to them. Hardly pushing product.

Exactly, no one is forced to buy the ice cream. It's the parent's responsibility to teach children not to buy it "every day" or something. It should be more like a once in a while treat [once every other week, once a month, something like that].

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Do schools that offer organic food still offer processed pizza and other similar food? I didn't think so. So that's not a fair comparison.

 

And if the parents wanted access to healthy options, they can either bring a healthy snack with them or go to a nearby store. Or they, as a neighborhood, can get an organic food vendor and subsidize the losses.

 

 

It's a fair comparison because the kids still have pizza, but just with organic ingredients. The same thing with the snacks... They may still have snacks, but they are healthier and use organic ingredients as opposed to the processed stuff.

 

The kids need to learn how to control themselves. They shouldn't take away the choice because of that. Compared to the slop that gets sold at places like McDonald's, I don't think an ice cream cone is a main culprit. Heck, even fast food places are serving healthy* stuff now too, so the point about convenience has less of a standing. Now I'm not saying that ice cream is particularly healthy, but, in my opinion, they should be more worried about the fast food places on every corner rather than the ice cream trucks. Many more people go to McDonald's to get a $1 cheeseburger than people go to an ice cream truck and buy a $1 ice cream cone.

 

(*ha. healthy.)

 

 

LOL!! I love that asterisk. Also glad that somebody besides myself pointed out the saturation of fast food places around.

 

Yup. Even lately I rarely see the ice cream trucks running up/down my street compared to years past. Now as for being around a park, they'll always be there.

Totally agreed. Parents are the 'first line of defense', they should be the ones taking active steps to make their kids eat healthier compared to whining and taking legal actions to ban something. Banning something is just pushing aside the real problem - themselves for just differing the issue of dealing with their kids. As for introducing healthy 'organic foods', it can't be a total replacement. You have to wean the kids off the junk food gradually as kids taste buds are far different from that of adults and they in general don't like anything that tastes too bitter (try getting them to eat their vegetables). So I'm not against kids eating healthy, but at the same time I don't agree with an outright change in the menu.

 

Exactly, no one is forced to buy the ice cream. It's the parent's responsibility to teach children not to buy it "every day" or something. It should be more like a once in a while treat [once every other week, once a month, something like that].

 

 

Okay, if there is nothing but ice cream trucks and fast food places around the park, then if the parents want the kids to have healthy food they are forced to bring food with them or schlepp to some place that offers healthy food. With the saturation of fast food places around, why shouldn't these parents be able to offer their kids options in their community?? If the vendors don't like it they can sell their good elsewhere. This isn't about the parents not having to tell their kids no or not buying the goods. It is more about a lack of choices.

[NX Express]

It's a fair comparison because the kids still have pizza, but just with organic ingredients. The same thing with the snacks... They may still have snacks, but they are healthier and use organic ingredients as opposed to the processed stuff.

 

You said that schools have gotten kids to give up junk food. Well... that's really easy to do if you don't give them junk food, and I doubt organic pizza counts as junk food.

 

As for outside, I'm sure that even kids who go to 'healthy-lunch' schools still eat all the junk food they can.

 

 

Okay, if there is nothing but ice cream trucks and fast food places around the park, then if the parents want the kids to have healthy food they are forced to bring food with them or schlepp to some place that offers healthy food. With the saturation of fast food places around, why shouldn't these parents be able to offer their kids options in their community?? If the vendors don't like it they can sell their good elsewhere. This isn't about the parents not having to tell their kids no or not buying the goods. It is more about a lack of choices.

 

 

Thank you for agreeing with me and almost everyone else in this thread! Giving the parents/kids options (e.g. bringing healthy food to the neighborhood) is no problem. The issue is that these parents are demanding the removal of options, or, as you put it, forcing 'a lack of choices' upon those parents who don't mind their kids eating junk food, or can't afford to buy organic.

 

In a few words, what I mean is that more options =/= removal of other options.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

You said that schools have gotten kids to give up junk food. Well... that's really easy to do if you don't give them junk food, and I doubt organic pizza counts as junk food.

 

As for outside, I'm sure that even kids who go to 'healthy-lunch' schools still eat all the junk food they can.

 

You should've watched the MSNBC special that I watched several weeks ago...

 

I actually found the clip...

 

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/dateline/14384657#14384657

 

There is no question that it is not just about choice, but your environment as well, which everyone in this thread is dismissing. You can click on "The landscape of obesity in America" to view the clip.

 

 

 

Thank you for agreeing with me and almost everyone else in this thread! Giving the parents/kids options (e.g. bringing healthy food to the neighborhood) is no problem. The issue is that these parents are demanding the removal of options, or, as you put it, forcing 'a lack of choices' upon those parents who don't mind their kids eating junk food, or can't afford to buy organic.

 

In a few words, what I mean is that more options =/= removal of other options.

 

 

Oh please... They would be losing a few ice cream trucks when there are fast food joints and junk food options all around the area, so this would be just a drop in the bucket. All I need to do is walk a few blocks in the city and see all of the obese folks walking around to see who has the upper hand in terms of "options". 66% or 1 in every 3 Americans are obese, so folks who want junk food have far more options than those who don't.

[B35 via Church]

I still remember the days when the good humor truck used to come around this area, where things got so bad w/ ice cream sales to the point that "Tony" (the driver) started selling Hamburgers, Hot Dogs, and Pizza !!

 

When I was growin up during the early 90's, ice cream sales (off the trucks, I mean) were booming.... so much so that you'd have mister softee, majik man (which was basically a knock off of mister softee) & the good humor truck would come twice a day..... Yes, SIX times a day you'd see an ice cream truck comin down the block..... It would be funny when mister softee & the good humor truck would arrive at the same time..... You could just sense the tension....

 

fast forward to the late 90's & early 2000's.... kids around here weren't buying ice cream like that no more.... that's why "Tony" had to try to start selling all that other shit..... of course, it didn't catch on..... I'd say around like 2003/4 is when the good humor truck stopped coming around.... He later opened up a pizza shop on 43rd/church which stayed opened for like 2 years, and then he closed down shop....

 

Mister softee still comes around, but it's only like 2 times a week (instead of 2-3 times a day) now....

 

 

^^ That's just in this neighborhood....

 

But over the past few summers, from my observations, in general, kids aren't running out to get ice cream from the trucks like that anymore.... You can attribute that to the economy, overbearing parenting, and/or the stuff not tasting good like it used to, or some other factor I haven't included..... Basically what I'm getting at is, the ice cream trucks will drive themselves out of serving a particular community... Which is why I said earlier that I agree w/ the silliness in wanting to drive the ice cream truck drivers out by way of their complaining or w/e.....

[DanTheTransitMan]

I can't believe these people are at it again, and to think that I have to go to school with the kids of these people.

[checkmatechamp13]

Oh please... They would be losing a few ice cream trucks when there are fast food joints and junk food options all around the area, so this would be just a drop in the bucket. All I need to do is walk a few blocks in the city and see all of the obese folks walking around to see who has the upper hand in terms of "options". 66% or 1 in every 3 Americans are obese, so folks who want junk food have far more options than those who don't.

 

 

66% is 2/3. Do you mean 1/3 or 2/3 (It's not a nitpicking question. I really want to know)

 

But over the past few summers, from my observations, in general, kids aren't running out to get ice cream from the trucks like that anymore.... You can attribute that to the economy, overbearing parenting, and/or the stuff not tasting good like it used to, or some other factor I haven't included..... Basically what I'm getting at is, the ice cream trucks will drive themselves out of serving a particular community... Which is why I said earlier that I agree w/ the silliness in wanting to drive the ice cream truck drivers out by way of their complaining or w/e.....

 

 

Yeah, I've noticed that as well.

 

When I was a little kid, I didn't pay attention to it, but I think it's become easier to get the different ice cream pops in stores now. Most of the time, my parents would just get me ice cream from the ice cream truck, since we didn't eat a whole lot of ice cream, so it's not worth buying a 6 pack. It's only been a few years since I've actually been shopping with my parents and paying close attention to the prices.

 

But in any case, if it's become easier to buy packs of ice cream, the parents are probably thinking "Why pay $2 for an ice cream pop when I could go to the supermarket and buy a 6 pack for $4?". Especially if you have multiple kids and they love eating ice cream, it adds up.

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66% is 2/3.

Do you mean 1/3 or 2/3 (It's not a nitpicking question. I really want to know)

Of Americans, it's 1/3rd.....

 

 

Yeah, I've noticed that as well.

 

When I was a little kid, I didn't pay attention to it, but I think it's become easier to get the different ice cream pops in stores now. Most of the time, my parents would just get me ice cream from the ice cream truck, since we didn't eat a whole lot of ice cream, so it's not worth buying a 6 pack. It's only been a few years since I've actually been shopping with my parents and paying close attention to the prices.

 

But in any case, if it's become easier to buy packs of ice cream, the parents are probably thinking "Why pay $2 for an ice cream pop when I could go to the supermarket and buy a 6 pack for $4?". Especially if you have multiple kids and they love eating ice cream, it adds up.

I suppose, but to tell the truth, Ice cream is just not being bought like it used to.....

 

Even stores like Carvel, Dairy Queen, & Baskin Robbins have reported losses in sales.... funny thing w/ baskin robbins is that they had to pair them up with dunkin donuts (since sales w/ that stuff is increasing)..... I hardly hear of anyone buying taste the tropics anymore; hell, the one over here on utica/av D. now call themselves Tru flavaz (or somethin another), where it's a bakery, and IINM, they sell hot food as well....