Mysterious2train Posted April 29, 2015 Share #1751 Posted April 29, 2015 Don't mean to go off topic, but it seems like the 63 St for the M101/102/103 buses will not be restored once it's finished What makes you say that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q113 LTD Posted May 22, 2015 Share #1752 Posted May 22, 2015 Second Avenue Subway is 82% complete. http://www.wnyc.org/story/second-avenue-subway/ http://nypost.com/2015/05/21/second-avenue-subway-more-than-80-percent-complete/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted May 23, 2015 Share #1753 Posted May 23, 2015 Excellent news, though I'm hoping they don't run into stupid problems like the Flushing Line Extension did 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfanrod Posted May 23, 2015 Share #1754 Posted May 23, 2015 it would be nice if it could open early like winter 2016 jan 2016 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted May 24, 2015 Share #1755 Posted May 24, 2015 ..."Due to unforeseen circumstances, it is very likely that Phase 1 of the Second Avenue Subway will open a few months later than expected." ..."Due to fire alarm issues, the projected opening date of Phase 1 of the Second Avenue Subway has been postponed by two months." etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted May 25, 2015 Share #1756 Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) it would be nice if it could open early like winter 2016 jan 2016 The projected opening date is December 2016. Work on 72/86/96 St stations won't be finished until Fall 2016, according to the MTA. Here's the status of all 10 contracts for Phase 1 as of last month: - Tunnel Boring Machine Tunneling - 100% done - 86th St Excavation, Utility Relocation, and Road Decking - 100% done - 96th St Site Work and Heavy Civil - 100% done - 72nd St Cavern Mining, Tunnels and Heavy Civil - 100% done - 86th St Cavern Mining & Heavy Civil - 100% done - 96th St Station Finishes, Systems, Ancillary Buildings and Entrances - 67% - 86th St Station Finishes, Systems, Ancillary Buildings and Entrances - 35% - 72nd Station Finishes, Systems, Ancillary Buildings and Entrances - 55.8% - Lexington Av-63 St Station Upgrade - 88% - Track, Power, Signals & Communications Systems - 50.7% Average together all 10 percentages and that's where the 80something number comes from. You can see that work on 86th St is coming along pretty slowly. If the work continues at its current pace the station won't even be finished by Fall 2016, but Michael Horodniceanu (president of MTA Capital Construction) said that the MTA has instituted a second shift to speed up work. Edited May 25, 2015 by Mysterious2train 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted May 25, 2015 Share #1757 Posted May 25, 2015 Thanks for the stats. Earlier I read some of the capital documents and it said that 86 St's station + finishes was about 3-6 months behind schedule though, so... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted May 25, 2015 Author Share #1758 Posted May 25, 2015 With the amount of whining and grumbling that Williamsburg emits every time the gets shut down for repairs, I wonder if the Upper East Side will be the same. If reliability and speed proves higher due to new construction techniques, they might not have to worry about too many shutdowns. The tunnels are also physically separated, so single-tracking can happen at full speed without flagging. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsperez93 Posted May 26, 2015 Share #1759 Posted May 26, 2015 Does anyone still have hope for the anymore? It seems as there is always some type of interruption going on that does not allow smooth subway operation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted May 26, 2015 Share #1760 Posted May 26, 2015 My god we're already discussing G.Os and single tracking on SAS. ...By the time Phase 4 is under construction, 30 years will have passed and everything will need to be replaced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 26, 2015 Share #1761 Posted May 26, 2015 With the amount of whining and grumbling that Williamsburg emits every time the gets shut down for repairs, I wonder if the Upper East Side will be the same. If reliability and speed proves higher due to new construction techniques, they might not have to worry about too many shutdowns. The tunnels are also physically separated, so single-tracking can happen at full speed without flagging. There shouldn't be any sort of need for GOs on the weekend, since signal replacement, repainting, etc. should not really be necessary anytime soon. The Broadway Line is pretty far back in terms of CBTC scheduling. Thanks for the stats. Earlier I read some of the capital documents and it said that 86 St's station + finishes was about 3-6 months behind schedule though, so... 86th was also the last to actually start due to, among other reasons, litigation from Yorkshire Towers, so it makes sense that it's also the slowest one. Worst comes to worse, if it's just the physical station itself that needs to finish up, the extension can hopefully be opened with trains skipping 86th. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted May 26, 2015 Share #1762 Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) PHOTOS: No Rats, No Pillars, No People in This Peek at the 2nd Ave. Subway Far below street level, carved out of the dense metamorphic bedrock known as Manhattan schist, the city's newest subway line is taking shape. This [Lexington Av-63 St] is the third deepest station that we have in the system," says the president of MTA capital construction, Michael Horodniceanu. "The lower level is 134 feet down." The tunneling work from 63rd to 96th streets is done. The three new stations are large and cavernous, like Washington D.C. Metro stations. They lack columns. They have mezzanine levels. And when you stand on the platform and look through the tunnels, they look like giant owl eyes. Horodniceanu said children often come to the Second Avenue Subway's Community Information Center and ask questions. Staff kept trying to explain the size of the project to them, but the kids were struggling to visualize it . "So one of the guys here figured out how many elephants could fit in the (72nd Street) cavern," he said, "and the children then got it." How many elephants would fit? "Fifty-five thousand." The project is now 82 percent complete. Now, says Horodniceanu, comes the hard part. "I'm not going to kid myself," he said. "This is the toughest 18 percent, because these are the finishes and the systems." Fire control and ventilation systems have to be rigorously tested. The new signal relay rooms have to be wired perfectly in order to communicate with MTA's control rooms elsewhere in the system. It's an especially delicate job, because the original subway system is over 110 years old. "We have to marry brand new technology with technology that may not be exactly at the same pace," says Horodniceanu. When asked how confident he is that the line would open by next December, Horodniceanu ballparked it at 75 to 80 percent. But an electrical worker who gave his name as Brian was much more confident. "I'm not worried. I'm not worried," Brian said. "We'll get it done. We always come through." http://www.wnyc.org/story/second-avenue-subway/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TransportationNation+%28Transportation+Nation%29 Pictures at the link. The article also says that the new font used on the wall tiles at Lexington Av-63 St was just a test font and will be replaced with something "more in line with the rest of the subway system." MTA also posted several photos last week on its Flickr account: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157652814565728/ Edited May 26, 2015 by Mysterious2train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted May 28, 2015 Share #1763 Posted May 28, 2015 MTA made a BVE like video of the SAS.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwU2fIf6N4U&feature=youtu.be 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #1764 Posted May 28, 2015 LMAO: There is very little realism in this simulator. For example, the switches that are supposed to be south of 96 Street and north of 72 Street don’t exist. Found it here: http://www.mta.info/news-second-avenue-subway/2015/05/28/new-subway-train-simulator-unveiled-community-information 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparen of Iria Posted May 28, 2015 Share #1765 Posted May 28, 2015 LMAO: There is very little realism in this simulator. For example, the switches that are supposed to be south of 96 Street and north of 72 Street don’t exist. Found it here: http://www.mta.info/news-second-avenue-subway/2015/05/28/new-subway-train-simulator-unveiled-community-information It also makes the stations look horribly generic and dimly lit. And the presence of what I assume to be R211s makes it seem like Phase 1 will be delayed by 5-10 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 29, 2015 Share #1766 Posted May 29, 2015 That looks like the Metro 2033 version of the NYC Subway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted May 29, 2015 Share #1767 Posted May 29, 2015 Funny, it reminds me more of World of Subways 4. The stations look just as dark. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted May 31, 2015 Share #1768 Posted May 31, 2015 Uhhh.... That simulator looks like something out of a creepypasta game..... I'm sorry, I had to say it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted May 31, 2015 Share #1769 Posted May 31, 2015 http://www.wnyc.org/story/second-avenue-subway/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TransportationNation+%28Transportation+Nation%29 Pictures at the link. The article also says that the new font used on the wall tiles at Lexington Av-63 St was just a test font and will be replaced with something "more in line with the rest of the subway system." MTA also posted several photos last week on its Flickr account: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157652814565728/ Does this mean they will replace the tiles already at Lex/63 or will use a different font for future tiles? It would be a shame if they are going to replace the current ones because I actually like that font/style that's there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 31, 2015 Share #1770 Posted May 31, 2015 Does this mean they will replace the tiles already at Lex/63 or will use a different font for future tiles? It would be a shame if they are going to replace the current ones because I actually like that font/style that's there. Ultimately, the tiles have to be very easy to read at a very quick glance. Scrunched Helvetica is not so good for legibility purposes. Are the stations part of Arts for Transit? Because right now they're very bland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted May 31, 2015 Share #1771 Posted May 31, 2015 Even what some consider bland can be art. I personally like it. It's simple, but different enough in the font to be distinguishable from South Ferry. This will likely be the look of the future. Unless someone thinks about installing easily removable tiles that can be switched out with giant pieces of more complex art. If only it was possible, by large chance, to create a subway looking splatter painting in the style of Jackson Pollock. A man can dream... Oooooooooh, or a splatter painting using the colors of the subway map. ...I don't know why the thought of that last sentence made me so happy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted May 31, 2015 Share #1772 Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) Ultimately, the tiles have to be very easy to read at a very quick glance. Scrunched Helvetica is not so good for legibility purposes. Are the stations part of Arts for Transit? Because right now they're very bland. The mezzanines are going to have artwork. Gothamist has an article with some renderings of the different artworks http://gothamist.com/2014/01/22/heres_what_the_second_avenue_subway.php#photo-1 Here's another rendering of the 86 St artwork: http://web.mta.info/capital/sas_pdf/CB8%20SAS%20Task%20Force%20meeting%20Draft%20JORM_2015Jan22.pdf#page=23 Couldn't find a rendering of the artwork at 72nd St. Edited May 31, 2015 by Mysterious2train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 31, 2015 Share #1773 Posted May 31, 2015 Even what some consider bland can be art. I personally like it. It's simple, but different enough in the font to be distinguishable from South Ferry. This will likely be the look of the future. Unless someone thinks about installing easily removable tiles that can be switched out with giant pieces of more complex art. If only it was possible, by large chance, to create a subway looking splatter painting in the style of Jackson Pollock. A man can dream... Oooooooooh, or a splatter painting using the colors of the subway map. ...I don't know why the thought of that last sentence made me so happy. Munich uses interchangeable, power-washable tiles for its art. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted May 31, 2015 Share #1774 Posted May 31, 2015 See, this is exactly what I was thinking of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q113 LTD Posted June 1, 2015 Share #1775 Posted June 1, 2015 Video Release: Line Extension Train Operator and Dispatcher Training 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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