mtattrain Posted July 6, 2012 Share #751 Posted July 6, 2012 ...maof (again) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted July 6, 2012 Share #752 Posted July 6, 2012 No foam its nothing to get overly exciting from it looks just like the R142/A so calm down. Only difference is that they will be on the 7. Now my question is what will these trains be replacing because, the R62/A's are not that old 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 6, 2012 Share #753 Posted July 6, 2012 No trains are being replaced. Plus the is going to be extended to the westside, so it'll need a few extra trains, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest18 Posted July 6, 2012 Share #754 Posted July 6, 2012 I can't wait for the new trains!! B) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted July 7, 2012 Share #755 Posted July 7, 2012 No trains are being replaced. Plus the is going to be extended to the westside, so it'll need a few extra trains, But the rumor mill is saying that the R62As on the might be going back to the once the R188 arrives.Someone on the east side will be pissed,NIMBYS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted July 7, 2012 Share #756 Posted July 7, 2012 Someone's always going to be pissed. Unless East Side riders are pony up the many millions of dollars needed to prematurely replace the 62(a)s, these folks need to pay the $2.25, ride the train and STFU. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 7, 2012 Share #757 Posted July 7, 2012 (edited) But the rumor mill is saying that the R62As on the might be going back to the once the R188 arrives.Someone on the east side will be pissed,NIMBYS It's a swap, again: nothing is getting replaced. And this has been talked about to death. It happens, it happens. If certain groups don't like the older cars, they can take the taxi or a crosstown bus. Edited July 7, 2012 by Grand Concourse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 8, 2012 Share #758 Posted July 8, 2012 It's a swap, again: nothing is getting replaced. And this has been talked about to death. It happens, it happens. If certain groups don't like the older cars, they can take the taxi or a crosstown bus. It comes down to this: It's a subway car, it's going to your destination. Shut up and get on or find a different way to go where you are going. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted July 8, 2012 Share #759 Posted July 8, 2012 It's a swap, again: nothing is getting replaced. And this has been talked about to death. It happens, it happens. If certain groups don't like the older cars, they can take the taxi or a crosstown bus. It comes down to this: It's a subway car, it's going to your destination. Shut up and get on or find a different way to go where you are going. Word. God damn no one should care less if those R62s go to the . The point of a train is not to be as fancy as you want, just to get you from point A to point B. Whoever don't like it, that is their problem. Pretty dumb to stop riding the subway because of 1 damn fleet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted July 8, 2012 Share #760 Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Gonna say this again as before. Don't be surprised if this swap is temporary. Surely people on the Pelham Line won't be happy to see the R62As back on the , as I'm hearing and my personal belief. You MAY just see these head to ether the or (REGARDLESS of 2/5 Swap). You never know, for those who will say it will never happen! Just like how those in Country Club won the extension of the Bx24 to the Square and Parkchester rez got there bus service back via Metropolitan Ave (BX4A). Hopefully this swapping won't feud the politicians and communities the serve. Edited July 8, 2012 by mark1447 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted July 8, 2012 Share #761 Posted July 8, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised either way if the 4-line gets the 62As and Jerome's 142s move over to Westchester. However, I don't see the 2- or 5-lines getting those cars. There's just too much of a hassle involved with the constant train swapping. Either way, the east side will be seeing those 62As on at least one of the lines when this is all said and done. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted July 9, 2012 Share #762 Posted July 9, 2012 Gonna say this again as before. Don't be surprised if this swap is temporary. Surely people on the Pelham Line won't be happy to see the R62As back on the , as I'm hearing and my personal belief. You MAY just see these head to ether the or (REGARDLESS of 2/5 Swap). You never know, for those who will say it will never happen! Just like how those in Country Club won the extension of the Bx24 to the Square and Parkchester rez got there bus service back via Metropolitan Ave (BX4A). Hopefully this swapping won't feud the politicians and communities the serve. The MTA is not going to run different types of subway cars on the and lines because they need to have the flexibility to send a train back out of Flatbush as a train and vice versa. For decades the and have operated the same or compatible subway cars to allow and trains and crews to enter and leave Flatbush faster. They will not change that just to please a few loudmouth politicians in the East Bronx and/or Upper East Side whose giant egos will be hurt if the R62As return to the line. Perhaps if those clowns had been properly funding the MTA instead of cutting its funds, there could have been money to buy a whole new fleet of CBTC-compatible cars for the so that the could then keep its R142As. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 9, 2012 Share #763 Posted July 9, 2012 I still have yet to understand how politics can affect car assignments, since the MTA (not elected officials) have control over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted July 9, 2012 Share #764 Posted July 9, 2012 Exactly. Every two-bit politician all over the city would be demanding that any subway lines running through their district gets the newest subway cars every time the MTA orders new cars. Buses too. The MTA would have to replace all of its rail cars and buses at the same time in order to please them all. Would these same pols be willing to give the MTA ample funding so they can replace all subway cars and buses in one shot? Of course they won't, so they really need to shut up about how the MTA assigns subway cars. Politicians, either put up or shut up! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted July 9, 2012 Share #765 Posted July 9, 2012 A prime example of politicians effects on what goes where are when the R42s first arrived. Before that, subway cars were usually restricted to one yard. Since they were the first cars with AC in the entire fleet, it was politicians that said to spread the cars around. Giving most of the voting subway riders access to that "luxury". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 9, 2012 Share #766 Posted July 9, 2012 But now all cars have a/c, so that should be enough. Besides the R62As are going to be around for another 12~ years. If they can put up with that, then it'll mean newer trains over refurbished ones that the is getting. It's a fair deal. I mean it could be worse, the R62As on the aren't in the best of shapes interior wise with scratched up seats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted July 9, 2012 Share #767 Posted July 9, 2012 Yeah. I don't think I'm the first one to say this, but people shouldn't act like the R62/A is the "R32 of the IRT". If anything, it should be compared to the R68/A, which is similar in age. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted July 9, 2012 Share #768 Posted July 9, 2012 The R68s are indeed the B-Division R62s. Both fleets were ordered roughly around the same time. Both have a lot of similarities inside and out (especially interior-wise). There is no A-Division equivalent of the R32s, which is unfortunate (had the R39 contract been put out to order, there would have been). Perhaps the A-Division fleet in the 70s and early 80s would have looked less shabby than if there was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted July 9, 2012 Share #769 Posted July 9, 2012 It would've been interesting if that R39 would still be around today if that was supposed to be an all stainless steel car body like the R32s. And I wonder where they would be running on today: (1)/(3)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted July 9, 2012 Share #770 Posted July 9, 2012 The R39 was ordered for the old Myrtle El. After its demolishment, the order was cancelled. If it had been ordered, I'd say it would be on the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 10, 2012 Share #771 Posted July 10, 2012 The A Div. version of the R32 was the WF R33's and 36's. They just weren't built with stainless steel. The R39's would have been IRT-sized counterparts to the R38's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 10, 2012 Share #772 Posted July 10, 2012 If the R39 order was modified to run in the subway after the Myrtle el closing, they would have been on the , , and . The other lines would have gotten the R33's & R36's. The R39's would probably still be around also, but just in a small number. This is getting a bit foamy anyway... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted July 10, 2012 Share #773 Posted July 10, 2012 I don't understand this. If the R39 was to be built in IRT dimensions, how would it have run on the Myrtle line? Wouldn't the gap have been too big? And wasn't the Myrtle line already modified for modern BMT dimensions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted July 10, 2012 Share #774 Posted July 10, 2012 Yeah. I don't think I'm the first one to say this, but people shouldn't act like the R62/A is the "R32 of the IRT". If anything, it should be compared to the R68/A, which is similar in age. i think they consider them the r32 of the irt, because of their gates... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted July 10, 2012 Share #775 Posted July 10, 2012 Hey, has anyone noticed we're on page 39 of this thread, and we happen to be writing about the R39? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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