nightmare402 Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3251 Posted July 4, 2015 anyone know where 3381 is i want a pic of the R30 blind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3252 Posted July 4, 2015 anyone know where 3381 is i want a pic of the R30 blind I THINK it's on the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micstromme Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3253 Posted July 4, 2015 The thing is the R32s work soooo much better out of ENY than they do anywhere else. Not for nothing, those R32/R42s are on a roll at NIGHT!!!!! I hate the R160s on the Line (just because I know that I can catch an R42 or R32 on the Jamaica Line, lol) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3254 Posted July 4, 2015 Hold up, R42's? I thought those things were at the bottom of the ocean already! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3255 Posted July 4, 2015 The thing is the R32s work soooo much better out of ENY than they do anywhere else. Not for nothing, those R32/R42s are on a roll at NIGHT!!!!! I hate the R160s on the Line (just because I know that I can catch an R42 or R32 on the Jamaica Line, lol) Don't know what to tell you then, since ENY is keeping a few 160s on the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3256 Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) The thing is the R32s work soooo much better out of ENY than they do anywhere else. Not for nothing, those R32/R42s are on a roll at NIGHT!!!!! I hate the R160s on the Line (just because I know that I can catch an R42 or R32 on the Jamaica Line, lol) Unless you actually work for the , and therefore, have more experience about the inner workings within the agency itself, you really shouldn't speculate about railcar maintenance and inspection. The R32s and R42s still have the highest breakdown rates according to the recent MDBF data than all other cars in the system anyway. It doesn't matter what lines they run on, because of their age. They'll always have problems no matter where they go. ...and speaking of East New York's shop facility, I still wonder how are they able to handle four different car types (R32, R42, R143 and R160)...Outside of this current swap, I think East New York should have handled the R143s and R160s as the primary fleet and the R42s as the minor. Meaning that they should have just use the R42s as put-ins and limited runs during rush hours only, so that way they're aren't needed for maintenance and inspection if they were to run at all times. But I guess that is what they did even before this swap came to existence, as I almost never caught an R42 during the off-peak. Edited July 4, 2015 by RollOver 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3257 Posted July 4, 2015 Hold up, R42's? I thought those things were at the bottom of the ocean already! Where the hell have you been? The remaining 42s have been on the J for years now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3258 Posted July 4, 2015 Unless you actually work for the , and therefore, have more experience about the inner workings within the agency itself, you really shouldn't speculate about railcar maintenance and inspection. The R32s and R42s still have the highest breakdown rates according to the recent MDBF data than all other cars in the system anyway. It doesn't matter what lines they run on, because of their age. They'll always have problems no matter where they go. ...and speaking of East New York's shop facility, I still wonder how are they able to handle four different car types (R32, R42, R143 and R160)...Outside of this current swap, I think East New York should have handled the R143s and R160s as the primary fleet and the R42s as the minor. Meaning that they should have just use the R42s as put-ins and limited runs during rush hours only, so that way they're aren't needed for maintenance and inspection if they were to run at all times. But I guess that is what they did even before this swap came to existence, as I almost never caught an R42 during the off-peak. Lots of shops handle multiple car types. Take a look at Coney Island, it serves the fleets of the , , , , , , , and . That's R46, R68, R68A, R160 Alstom and R160 Siemens. Restricting the R42s to put ins and rush hour service would not have helped prevent the need for maintenance - all subway cars require maintenance, be they 1 day or 100 years old. If they ran the R42s as you proposed and avoided doing maintenance on them, it would just cause far more breakdowns during the rush hour periods. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3259 Posted July 4, 2015 Lots of shops handle multiple car types. Take a look at Coney Island, it serves the fleets of the , , , , , , , and . That's R46, R68, R68A, R160 Alstom and R160 Siemens. Restricting the R42s to put ins and rush hour service would not have helped prevent the need for maintenance - all subway cars require maintenance, be they 1 day or 100 years old. If they ran the R42s as you proposed and avoided doing maintenance on them, it would just cause far more breakdowns during the rush hour periods. 1) I thought Coney Island's shop facility only maintains and inspect the cars on the , , , and the Franklin Avenue Shuttle (R68, R68A and R160); the , and cars are just stored in the yard. It's Coney Island's overhaul facility that actually handles any cars. 2) You're right, so I was wrong to propose that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3260 Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) 1) I thought Coney Island's shop facility only maintains and inspect the cars on the , , , and the Franklin Avenue Shuttle (R68, R68A and R160); the , and cars are just stored in the yard. It's Coney Island's overhaul facility that actually handles any cars. I don't know the details of the arrangement, I was just going by what nycsubway.org said. However, the R160 Alstom and R160 Siemens are quite different, so even if the , , and cars weren't maintained at the yard, it would still be 4 train types. Edited July 4, 2015 by ttcsubwayfan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3261 Posted July 4, 2015 Oh, okay, I see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3262 Posted July 4, 2015 No He's right, the R32's does better on the , but since the R32 fleet is split now, they both have been improving and its a balanced out now, i can't speak for the R42's because a few nights ago i rode one at 2am and the head car had no A/C, and some of them are really raggety, but for the past week, theres been a about 6 r160's on the during the overnight, the reason why it seems likes theres less R32's is because of the spares, its a cycle, when alot of R160's needs work, you'll see more R32's, if alot of R32's need work you'll see more r160's, ENY has plenty of spares for both classes esp. for the and so they're good CI only handles the ,,, and , the and only uses the yard for storage, and CI Overhaul shop, handles any type of Subway car for Heavy Work 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3263 Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) I rode a couple of R32s with dead A/C to I wonder if that is a problem that the R160s are going to suffer through in the future but they can always put the R32 cars with dead A/C in the middle I've also heard that the R42s have a roach problem Edited July 4, 2015 by R3216068E 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3264 Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Where the hell have you been? The remaining 42s have been on the J for years now.Wait, I thought R38's were on the Jamica Line! My mistake I got the fleet confused, I thought that the R38's were the ones with the fat body while the R42's were similar to the R32's. Edited July 4, 2015 by Javier 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 4, 2015 Share #3265 Posted July 4, 2015 No He's right, the R32's does better on the , but since the R32 fleet is split now, they both have been improving and its a balanced out now, i can't speak for the R42's because a few nights ago i rode one at 2am and the head car had no A/C, and some of them are really raggety, but for the past week, theres been a about 6 r160's on the during the overnight, the reason why it seems likes theres less R32's is because of the spares, its a cycle, when alot of R160's needs work, you'll see more R32's, if alot of R32's need work you'll see more r160's, ENY has plenty of spares for both classes esp. for the and so they're good Yeah I get it...you and him say that they do 'better' on the only because of air-conditioning and it's an even swap...And I doubt we would see anymore R160s on the since it already has a total of 14 trainsets of R32s and 6 trainsets of R42s, meaning that's 85-90% SMEEs. You are correct about the spare ratio though. Because from what I've noticed that off-peak service only runs about 12-14 trainsets instead of 20 trainsets, meaning that's about a mixed fleet of R32s, R42s and R160s. And yes, I've counted about 4-5 sets of R32s during the off-peak and the rest being R42s and R160s. Numerous times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted July 22, 2015 Share #3266 Posted July 22, 2015 8593-8652,9943-74 are officially for the permanently, they aren't going back until further notice so did 207st randomly send R32 sets to ENY? Or it was sorted Between best performance cars/Worst performance cars? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted July 22, 2015 Share #3267 Posted July 22, 2015 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 31, 2015 Share #3268 Posted July 31, 2015 As per RTO sources Effective starting in September R32's will start popping up on the 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted July 31, 2015 Share #3269 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) As per RTO sources Effective starting in September R32's will start popping up on the Wonder how they plan to put the down with its new line and terminals. Edited July 31, 2015 by MysteriousBtrain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted July 31, 2015 Share #3270 Posted July 31, 2015 I knew it I said that they probably will a couple months ago and see what happened 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 31, 2015 Share #3271 Posted July 31, 2015 I knew it I said that they probably will a couple months ago and see what happened Yeah, I do apologize for overacting. But anyways, at least we get to see R32s on the Queens Boulevard Line again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 31, 2015 Share #3272 Posted July 31, 2015 Also the R143's will be a regular on the and so eny is basically running anything on the J/Z lines to balance out the mileage There's supposed to be a go on the for structural work and the NTT's are to heavy but I don't think the will be 100%, maybe about six sets or more, but this could be all subject to change 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted July 31, 2015 Share #3273 Posted July 31, 2015 Also the R143's will be a regular on the and so eny is basically running anything on the J/Z lines to balance out the mileage There's supposed to be a go on the for structural work and the NTT's are to heavy but I don't think the will be 100%, maybe about six sets or more, but this could be all subject to change And all thanks to a vandalized R32 within ENY yard. Wait, R143's can operate on non-CBTC lines? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 31, 2015 Share #3274 Posted July 31, 2015 Wait, R143's can operate on non-CBTC lines? If they couldn't, they would have never been on the as they are now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted July 31, 2015 Share #3275 Posted July 31, 2015 The R143 being on the J has nothing to do with the vandalized R32, the R143's are now assigned to the J, you'll only see about 1-3 sets of R143's on the J/Z anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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