Mpn4179 Posted August 26, 2022 Share #3951 Posted August 26, 2022 56 minutes ago, OpenBVEFan1 said: 1205 was involved in a fire back in 2019, so was 1201 when it was under MCH 1205 was involved in a fire back in January 2014, or prior to. It was reported OOS in 2014, then reported scrap a year later in 2015. At the time, 1205 was assigned to GH on the Bx12 SBS, back when it had the SBS wrap. 1201 was involved in a fire in 2019 when it was running on the Bx9, operating out of Kingsbridge Depot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted August 27, 2022 Share #3952 Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 3857: MV to SCRAP 3887, 3892, 3900: OF to SCRAP 4191, 4199: CS to SCRAP 3245: SC to SCRAP Edited August 27, 2022 by Future ENY OP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted August 27, 2022 Share #3953 Posted August 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Future ENY OP said: 3857: MV to SCRAP 3887, 3892, 3900: OF to SCRAP 4191, 4199: CS to SCRAP 3245: SC to SCRAP 3887 is still in service on the M1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted August 27, 2022 Share #3954 Posted August 27, 2022 52 minutes ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said: 3887 is still in service on the M1. I Just did another update a little while ago and just saw this... Thanks for the heads up.. Wish I could edit this 3887 and plus the unit is a training unit for Zerega. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted August 28, 2022 Share #3955 Posted August 28, 2022 On 8/24/2022 at 7:08 PM, Ultimategamer12c said: 1224 from GH Depot was seen at EC Scrap but the bus was there due to high mileage. Also the 12xx that hasn't been running for awhile is 1205,1248,1272 & 1277. 1205 hasn't ran in awhile. 1224 hasn't ran since March. 1248 hasn't ran since May. 1272 hasn't ran since June of this year. 1277 hasn't ran since July. 1248 is confirmed to be scrap. Side note, 4374 is listed as scrap. There are now 5 active NG's at KB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted August 29, 2022 Share #3956 Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 3195- College Point to SCRAP.. Edited August 29, 2022 by Future ENY OP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted August 29, 2022 Share #3957 Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) On 8/26/2022 at 10:39 AM, Transit Enthusiast said: Apparently, some 2010s are reaching their 500K mile limit early. Once any bus in the MTA hits 500,000 miles, then it has to retire. Is that an MTA policy? There's nothing magical about the 500k mark, other than it being indicative of an older bus that is likely becoming more expensive to maintain. Edited August 29, 2022 by RailBus63 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Enthusiast Posted August 29, 2022 Share #3958 Posted August 29, 2022 2 hours ago, RailBus63 said: Is that an MTA policy? There's nothing magical about the 500k mark, other than it being indicative of an older bus that is likely becoming more expensive to maintain. Yes it is. 500K miles is the threshold for buses to be retired at. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted August 29, 2022 Share #3959 Posted August 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Transit Enthusiast said: Yes it is. 500K miles is the threshold for buses to be retired at. I'd like to see this policy please... Because, if you are hearing this by hearsay I strongly suggest you stop and try to get your information from reputable sources.. Also, although the 500K may be the threshold for the buses. These buses can still be used pending no serious and outlying maintenance issues. There are said 12xx buses that are currently running over 500K with no serious issues. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1train2255railfan Posted August 29, 2022 Share #3960 Posted August 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Transit Enthusiast said: Yes it is. 500K miles is the threshold for buses to be retired at. 500k is not necessarily the mark for retirement. With the RTSs running for 20-22 years, they definitely accumulated way more mileage than that. Plus, there were some OGs, namely 2004-05 ones in Brooklyn, that hit over 600k around four-five years before retirement. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted August 29, 2022 Share #3961 Posted August 29, 2022 Just now, 1train2255railfan said: 500k is not necessarily the mark for retirement. With the RTSs running for 20-22 years, they definitely accumulated way more mileage than that. Plus, there were some OGs, namely 2004-05 ones in Brooklyn, that hit over 600k around four-five years before retirement. So in the reality can a unit go up to 700, 800K with no serious maintenance issues and won't go OOS? and can the bus mechanics or depot maintenance have the final say to when buses hit over 500K to be deemed scrap? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted August 29, 2022 Share #3962 Posted August 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, 1train2255railfan said: 500k is not necessarily the mark for retirement. With the RTSs running for 20-22 years, they definitely accumulated way more mileage than that. Plus, there were some OGs, namely 2004-05 ones in Brooklyn, that hit over 600k around four-five years before retirement. Yeah, I'm fairly certain some of the 1996s overhauled in the "Program" in 2016 or 2016 made it to 700k or higher. 500k is standard for a bus of 12+ years. What people might be confusing is the MINIMUM life, not MAXIMUM life. The FTA regulates that federally-funded buses need to run for 12 years OR 500k miles. If a transit agency retires a bus before that point, and it's federally-funded, the FTA can say the agency is delinquent and refuse to give them as much money in the future. So you'll never see the MTA retiring buses before 12 years or 500k miles, unless it's a demo/niche fleet purchased without federal money. After those thresholds are met, then the agency can start retiring the fleet. The MTA will run a bus for 700k, 800k miles if they think it's still valuable in terms of replacement cost. That's what happened with the RTS fleet. The OG hybrids or some of the D60s, not so much. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 30, 2022 Share #3963 Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 3406: ECH to Spring Creek. Then to College Point to scrap. Edited August 30, 2022 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana04 Posted August 30, 2022 Share #3964 Posted August 30, 2022 3586 LGA to scrap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Enthusiast Posted August 31, 2022 Share #3965 Posted August 31, 2022 #3685 JFK/Far Rockaway -------> Scrap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTABusTransitFanner Posted August 31, 2022 Share #3966 Posted August 31, 2022 4004 was mentioned in a different thread that it was transferred to LaGuardia from Queens Village, that bus never went to LaGuardia and is at Eastchester scrap 3685 JFK to Eastchester scrap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted September 1, 2022 Share #3967 Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 1248. KIngsbridge to SCRAP. Official. There’s a picture online lurking showing the unit is parked at EC Edited September 1, 2022 by Future ENY OP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted September 3, 2022 Share #3968 Posted September 3, 2022 4522 is now retired at GA Depot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Enthusiast Posted September 3, 2022 Share #3969 Posted September 3, 2022 On 9/1/2022 at 6:21 PM, Future ENY OP said: 1248. KIngsbridge to SCRAP. Official. There’s a picture online lurking showing the unit is parked at EC I'd start catching the 1200s if I were you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted September 4, 2022 Share #3970 Posted September 4, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 4:06 PM, MHV9218 said: Yeah, I'm fairly certain some of the 1996s overhauled in the "Program" in 2016 or 2016 made it to 700k or higher. 500k is standard for a bus of 12+ years. What people might be confusing is the MINIMUM life, not MAXIMUM life. The FTA regulates that federally-funded buses need to run for 12 years OR 500k miles. If a transit agency retires a bus before that point, and it's federally-funded, the FTA can say the agency is delinquent and refuse to give them as much money in the future. So you'll never see the MTA retiring buses before 12 years or 500k miles, unless it's a demo/niche fleet purchased without federal money. After those thresholds are met, then the agency can start retiring the fleet. The MTA will run a bus for 700k, 800k miles if they think it's still valuable in terms of replacement cost. That's what happened with the RTS fleet. The OG hybrids or some of the D60s, not so much. Exactly. Some of the CP MCIs had well over a million miles and were still being used daily, as of a few months ago. Now they are replacing them with the Prevosts, but some of the 1 million+ buses drove better than the other buses! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted September 4, 2022 Share #3971 Posted September 4, 2022 (edited) 3236, 3237: Far Rockaway to scrap. 3127, 3225, 3227, 3241: College Point to scrap There was a typed in mistake from the mobile keyboard that 3066 is in there but is 3237 (3066 still active, however: 3236 is scrap) instead and 3406 meant for 3225 (3406 still active, however: 3225 is scrap). 3070, 3081, 3098, 3100, 3103, 3104, 3107, 3108: Yonkers to scrap 3232: scrap from SC 3573 (not on the list but out of LGA is scrap) 3578 and 3738: LGA to scrap. It is said that there's only 13 Old Gens at LGA so far. Edited September 4, 2022 by Calvin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The TransitMan Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share #3972 Posted September 5, 2022 Greetings! The FIRST PAGE has been updated! Submitted for your approval! Enjoy! Really sad to see these Orion Hybrids go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted September 5, 2022 Share #3973 Posted September 5, 2022 The MTA only getting 12-13 years out of those NGs (depending on build date in 2009) really is an indictment on those buses and those batteries. I can't think of a 40-foot order that aged that badly for the TA in ages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted September 5, 2022 Share #3974 Posted September 5, 2022 4367 is retired from QV Depot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted September 6, 2022 Share #3975 Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 3518 from BP is retired. 4519 from QV which is at BP Depot is supposedly retired. 4581 from QV which is at LGA Depot is supposedly retired. 4056 is retired from QV Depot. 4458 is retired from QV Depot. 4518 that was a former FP unit and got sent to ENY to be a swing Bus is now retired from Duty. Edited September 6, 2022 by Ultimategamer12c 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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