BDNQ2345 Posted October 1, 2015 Share #1 Posted October 1, 2015 Suspended Posted: 10/01/2015 6:46PM Due to signal problems along the line, service has been suspended between 34 St-Hudson Yds and Flushing-Main St in both directions. Take the and trains instead. LIRR will cross honor at the following stations: 34 St-Penn Station, Hunters Point Av, 61 St-Woodside, Flushing-Main St, Kew Gardens-Union Tpke, and Jamaica Center-Parsons/Archer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 1, 2015 Share #2 Posted October 1, 2015 Ridiculous... That shall be complete chaos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted October 1, 2015 Share #3 Posted October 1, 2015 At least its fixed now just residual delays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkemon Posted October 1, 2015 Share #4 Posted October 1, 2015 What the hell happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #5 Posted October 2, 2015 When CBTC goes, CBTC goes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #6 Posted October 2, 2015 What the hell happened? Bad weather, antiquated signals, outdoor subway line, BAD combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted October 2, 2015 Share #7 Posted October 2, 2015 Ironically, I was near the Mineola LIRR station when I heard about this. By the time I got back to the city, it was back up and running with extensive delays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted October 2, 2015 Share #8 Posted October 2, 2015 CBTC equipment strikes again? Not even in full use yet and this has already happened a few times... Gonna get even better when it's up and running! But don't worry guys, unlike the line...IT'S DIFFERENT THIS TIME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 2, 2015 Share #9 Posted October 2, 2015 See this is why I think CBTC is a waste of money. It's gonna be a whole other line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #10 Posted October 2, 2015 See this is why I think CBTC is a waste of money. It's gonna be a whole other line At the expense of the Lex line with the old damn trains on the line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #11 Posted October 2, 2015 At the expense of the Lex line with the old damn trains on the line... Theres still plenty of tech trains on the Lexington line so I don't know what the beef is with old trains. Plus, it's going to be a while until CBTC comes to the Lexington line. There just trains for Christ sakes taking you from Point A to Point B as the old cliche goes. You can still take the or which is EXPRESS and fully tech trains for your delight endulgence of NTTs and stop complianing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 2, 2015 Share #12 Posted October 2, 2015 My point exactly. What's the point of CBTC? To run trains closer together? I understand that but that can wait. No ones complaining that the needs more TPH, they should be focusing on fixing stations in need of repair and all of that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #13 Posted October 2, 2015 Theres still plenty of tech trains on the Lexington line so I don't know what the beef is with old trains. Plus, it's going to be a while until CBTC comes to the Lexington line. There just trains for Christ sakes taking you from Point A to Point B as the old cliche goes. You can still take the or which is EXPRESS and fully tech trains for your delight endulgence of NTTs and stop complianing. It's about far more than them being "just trains". It's more breakdowns, longer waits, and more people running to the which is already overcrowded. The entire Lex line is a mess already which is why those trains should've never been removed to begin with. Stupid move by the . Mark my words. And yes I do use the Lex line. Used it twice last week as a matter of fact for a meeting Downtown and another in Brooklyn Heights. Trains were almost sardine level before and after the rush... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #14 Posted October 2, 2015 It's about far more than them being "just trains". It's more breakdowns, longer waits, and more people running to the which is already overcrowded. The entire Lex line is a mess already which is why those trains should've never been removed to begin with. Stupid move by the . Mark my words. And yes I do use the Lex line. Used it twice last week as a matter of fact for a meeting Downtown and another in Brooklyn Heights. Trains were almost sardine level before and after the rush... Hey well what can I tell you buddy. I'm daily rider of the Broadway/7th Ave Line and we deal with the same stuff here as well and I know what I'm talking about cause I've been on R142 trains like sardine cans not to mention the R62s on both the & lines. Also, the NTTs are no angels themselves especially in bad weather. Just yesterday a R142 express train approching E 180th St craps out with mechanical problems causing the P.M. Rush Hour Express to go local. Almost all of the & trains coming up were crowded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #15 Posted October 2, 2015 Hey well what can I tell you buddy. I'm daily rider of the Broadway/7th Ave Line and we deal with the same stuff here as well and I know what I'm talking about cause I've been on R142 trains like sardine cans not to mention the R62s on both the & lines. Also, the NTTs are no angels themselves especially in bad weather. Just yesterday a R142 express train approching E 180th St craps out with mechanical problems causing the P.M. Rush Hour Express to go local. Almost all of the & trains coming up were crowded. lol... The are a problem mainly because the crappy headways. I actually would rather deal with the Lex line than the 7th Avenue line. At least the service is more frequent. The is giving wayy too much attention to the line with really nothing to show for it in return. I can say for a fact that aside from the new trains, service isn't much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #16 Posted October 2, 2015 lol... The are a problem mainly because the crappy headways. I actually would rather deal with the Lex line than the 7th Avenue line. At least the service is more frequent. The is giving wayy too much attention to the line with really nothing to show for it in return. I can say for a fact that aside from the new trains, service isn't much better. So new trains resolve headways or is it because they look nice. Frankly, it dont make no differences to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 2, 2015 Share #17 Posted October 2, 2015 And CBTC on QBL? Has the MTA seriously lost their mind. What about the ? What about the ? How can you put CBTC on a line that shares it with 2 other non CBTC lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #18 Posted October 2, 2015 So new trains resolve headways or is it because they look nice. Frankly, it dont make no differences to me. Service is about more than just headways. There's service and the there's the overall service on a line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #19 Posted October 2, 2015 My point exactly. What's the point of CBTC? To run trains closer together? I understand that but that can wait. No ones complaining that the needs more TPH, they should be focusing on fixing stations in need of repair and all of that stuff. It's not about running trains closer together. The systems signals are aging and will need to be replaced soon enough (half the signals are already well over say 50 years old). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #20 Posted October 2, 2015 Well right now from the TAs perspective the concentration seems to be on even wait assessment of service. It doesn't matter what train is running on what line new or old. As long as people finding a seat, theres AC in the summer and heat in the winter people dont give a damn what train their on. The fact of the matter is the R62As fleet still has about a decade more to be utilized in the system. The reason why the MTA is concentrating on the for CBTC is because of its isolation in short travel route much like the and it requires trains that are compatible with it in this case the R142As from the were choosen for conversion to the . It was choice of utilizing what they have instead of spending more budget money on trains and ordering a small addition of R188s to make up for potential added service on the . Getting rid of the R62s on the A division at this point in time would be a crime if you ask me, with no current plans on ordering new trains on the horizon. You cant expect overall service to be perfect all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #21 Posted October 2, 2015 And CBTC on QBL? Has the MTA seriously lost their mind. What about the ? What about the ? How can you put CBTC on a line that shares it with 2 other non CBTC lines. Simple. The and line T/Os will operate manually in Manhattan and Brooklyn. when they get to the QBL switch over to CBTC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #22 Posted October 2, 2015 ...people dont give a damn what train their on. That is far from true... Just look at all of the subway surveys out there and how riders rail on the train for its old fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 2, 2015 Share #23 Posted October 2, 2015 The uses only like 4 R160's that aren't even CBTC equipped, unless the R46's magically gained the power to be CBTC ready. The R160's the uses only has a short amount of R160's that have CBTC, while 79% of its fleet is non-CBTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #24 Posted October 2, 2015 That is far from true... Just look at all of the subway surveys out there and how riders rail on the train for its old fleet. Thats because those trains date back to half a century ago I already know that same ol' song and dance. But im not talking about the . I like said... you cant expect things to be perfect. Just goes to show how durable those trains are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted October 2, 2015 Share #25 Posted October 2, 2015 That is far from true... Just look at all of the subway surveys out there and how riders rail on the train for its old fleet. They don't have much to complain about now with the 160s on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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