New Spring Pick Changes (A Division)

[Around the Horn]

No.

 

The will run local, but skip Hoyt Street (which will likely be closed).

Thats the not the . It is run by crews though...

[Abba]

Sorry I meant if the 4 will run local

[Fresh Pond]

Sorry I meant if the 4 will run local

More than likely it will after Franklin Av

[Lawrence St]

Wouldn't it be simpler to just have the go to Flatbush 24/2 on such weekends and have the and both go local along Flatbush Avenue while the goes with the to SF?

You do that it'll throw everybody off because everybody is used to seeing only the in Brooklyn on Weekends. You put the there people in Brooklyn will have a freak out because they lost 7th Avenue service.

[Wallyhorse]

You do that it'll throw everybody off because everybody is used to seeing only the in Brooklyn on Weekends. You put the there people in Brooklyn will have a freak out because they lost 7th Avenue service.

Except they are going to lose it anyway because the is operating via LEXINGTON Avenue and the is operating via 7TH Avenue. 

 

In this case, it makes more sense to have the follow the to SF on weekends (and if there is enough capacity, the as well) and have the run 24/2 on weekends and replace the during this period with the and both skipping Hoyt Street and running local otherwise between Nevins and Atlantic Avenue.

 

As this is going to be on weekends for a full year, it makes much more sense to do it THIS way rather than switch the and in Manhattan.  The only difference in this is the becoming a 24/2 line on weekends to replace the in Brooklyn.

 

I would also have two single-track shuttle lines:

 

One operates between Chambers and Fulton Street (and if possible, Wall Street).

One operates between Nevins Street and Borough Hall (and if possible, Clark Street).  This picks up Hoyt Street for those too lazy to walk to Borough Hall or Nevins. 

[Deucey]

Except they are going to lose it anyway because the is operating via LEXINGTON Avenue and the is operating via 7TH Avenue.

 

In this case, it makes more sense to have the follow the to SF on weekends (and if there is enough capacity, the as well) and have the run 24/2 on weekends and replace the during this period with the and both skipping Hoyt Street and running local otherwise between Nevins and Atlantic Avenue.

 

As this is going to be on weekends for a full year, it makes much more sense to do it THIS way rather than switch the and in Manhattan. The only difference in this is the becoming a 24/2 line on weekends to replace the in Brooklyn.

 

I would also have two single-track shuttle lines:

 

One operates between Chambers and Fulton Street (and if possible, Wall Street).

One operates between Nevins Street and Borough Hall (and if possible, Clark Street). This picks up Hoyt Street for those too lazy to walk to Borough Hall or Nevins.

I don't see why all this needs to be done, Wallyhorse, if the trains' route displays still say and going down Broadway and going down Lex.

 

Only change I see - from everyone discussing this - is that crews that normally operate on the instead are going to operate trains, and vice versa.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong...

[Fresh Pond]

I don't see why all this needs to be done, Wallyhorse, if the trains' route displays still say and going down Broadway and going down Lex.

 

Only change I see - from everyone discussing this - is that crews that normally operate on the instead are going to operate trains, and vice versa.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong...

That's LITERALLY the gist of it.

[2 Train Master]

This is an old school GO. I like it because of course it makes little to no sense(well to me). I believe this was a classic 80's GO when the ran to Wakefield via 7th/ To Dyre via Lex. GO happened almost a decade ago for consecutive weekends, but the passengers shouldn't be confused because almost daily a (2)/ are re-routed. WPR riders will be fine(as long as a doesn't make its way upto WPR or even a . 

[LTA1992]

Thanks for the update Shondrae. It's good to know when these long-term service changes will take place. Of course, it'd be really nice if they put this on the website so people don't get blindsided by this at the last minute. Then again, MTA and proper communications go together like oil and water.

 

On the subject of these major service changes, I believe they will be the same as they have been every weekend the Clark St tunnels have been closed since the island platform at South Ferry opened in '09: internally, they will be labelled as trains via 7th Avenue and trains via Lexington. The service change notices and the train's signage and announcements will treat these as trains from Dyre to South Ferry and trains from 241 Street to Flatbush Av. There is absolutely nothing gained from deviating from this already established pattern. Here's to hoping they fix the error on IRT real-time feeds to show the trains as they are signed.

Like people actually look at the website. A change can happen every weekend for an entire year and people would still be clueless.

 

I used to work for a private development right up top from the High Street station. When I TELL you the amount of people a day coming to me asking if the and were running, despite the Cranberry Tube work going on for 6 months at that point WITH signs on the entrance right next to their sorry faces, it's astounding. I can't even fault the MTA because I think no matter what they do when it comes to notifications, people will still find a way to be unwashed.

 

Watch. The shutdown has been talked about in all forms of media since last year. People will somehow still not know.

[Lance]

Like people actually look at the website. A change can happen every weekend for an entire year and people would still be clueless.

 

I used to work for a private development right up top from the High Street station. When I TELL you the amount of people a day coming to me asking if the and were running, despite the Cranberry Tube work going on for 6 months at that point WITH signs on the entrance right next to their sorry faces, it's astounding. I can't even fault the MTA because I think no matter what they do when it comes to notifications, people will still find a way to be unwashed.

 

Watch. The shutdown has been talked about in all forms of media since last year. People will somehow still not know.

You're preaching to the choir.

[Lawrence St]

People in NYC are clueless, period. I once saw a lady wait an hour and a half at York St on the uptown platform for an when uptown trains were running via Cranberry, and there was a sign ON THE pillar she was leaning on. Then she had the nerve of screaming at a cleaning worker for not putting up signs and making her late for a meeting.

 

1) It's your fault you didn't pay attention because that face of yours was in your phone.

 

2) What the heck is the cleaning worker going to do?

[Wallyhorse]

People in NYC are clueless, period. I once saw a lady wait an hour and a half at York St on the uptown platform for an when uptown trains were running via Cranberry, and there was a sign ON THE pillar she was leaning on. Then she had the nerve of screaming at a cleaning worker for not putting up signs and making her late for a meeting.

 

1) It's your fault you didn't pay attention because that face of yours was in your phone.

 

2) What the heck is the cleaning worker going to do?

That is that woman's own stupidity.  I learned the hard way 10+ years ago when the Lexington line was out and you had the dueling trains and a slew of other messes on the same weekend to always pay attention when there are such changes, especially on weekends.

 

 

 

Like people actually look at the website. A change can happen every weekend for an entire year and people would still be clueless.

 

I used to work for a private development right up top from the High Street station. When I TELL you the amount of people a day coming to me asking if the and were running, despite the Cranberry Tube work going on for 6 months at that point WITH signs on the entrance right next to their sorry faces, it's astounding. I can't even fault the MTA because I think no matter what they do when it comes to notifications, people will still find a way to be unwashed.

 

Watch. The shutdown has been talked about in all forms of media since last year. People will somehow still not know.

Some people are all caught up in their own little worlds and forget the one basic principle: PAY ATTENTION!

 

This is why I when I make changes, I make it clear I reward those who pay attention and those who don't pay attention don't get where they are going can complain all they want, but it won't make their trip any easier.  

[2 Train Master]

People in NYC are clueless, period. I once saw a lady wait an hour and a half at York St on the uptown platform for an when uptown trains were running via Cranberry, and there was a sign ON THE pillar she was leaning on. Then she had the nerve of screaming at a cleaning worker for not putting up signs and making her late for a meeting.

 

1) It's your fault you didn't pay attention because that face of yours was in your phone.

 

2) What the heck is the cleaning worker going to do?

So you watched someone perhaps stalking or spying for over an hour?  Would have been nice to inform the less knowledgeable passenger or passengers who can't read why 's were re-routed.  

[Lawrence St]

I was fanning, it's a thing where you take a camera and use it to film special G.O's.

 

And just to clarify, I did try to talk to her but she wouldn't pay attention, so oh well.

[RTOMan]

This is an old school GO. I like it because of course it makes little to no sense(well to me). I believe this was a classic 80's GO when the ran to Wakefield via 7th/ To Dyre via Lex. GO happened almost a decade ago for consecutive weekends, but the passengers shouldn't be confused because almost daily a (2)/ are re-routed. WPR riders will be fine(as long as a doesn't make its way upto WPR or even a . 

 

When i was in the A Div they ran a similar GO like this but the 5 went LOCAL in Manhattan via the West Side and Ended at South Ferry.. The OLD South Ferry... It lasted most of the Pick.... My weekends on the 5 was lots of fun...

[Daniel The Cool]

When i was in the A Div they ran a similar GO like this but the 5 went LOCAL in Manhattan via the West Side and Ended at South Ferry.. The OLD South Ferry... It lasted most of the Pick.... My weekends on the 5 was lots of fun...

I remember that G.O. Fun times.