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2 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

I thought more of the lower numbered R160B Siemens cars were going to be rotated to Coney Island yard to keep 120 cars in Coney Island. And what happened to 8918-8922/8928-8932, which was running on the (N) a few days ago?

It was sent back to Jamaica. The train bolded was at C.I for maintenance and returned to service as an (F) . 

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7121-7125: Jerome Av (4) to Unionport (5) . Has the 2/5 map with upgraded lighting. 

R142 Nostrand Av/ Bronx pool -> 6301-6345, 6351-6715 (2) , 6716-7125 (5) 

 

(4) pool: R142 -> 1101-1250, 7126-7180 (21.5), R142A -> 7591-7810 (22) 

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19 hours ago, Calvin said:

7121-7125: Jerome Av (4) to Unionport (5) . Has the 2/5 map with upgraded lighting. 

R142 Nostrand Av/ Bronx pool -> 6301-6345, 6351-6715 (2) , 6716-7125 (5) 

 

(4) pool: R142 -> 1101-1250, 7126-7180 (21.5), R142A -> 7591-7810 (22) 

 

3 hours ago, VIP said:

They’ve been swapping units very frequently. I don’t Know why either. 

With this particular fleet swap, I'm assuming maybe it has something to do with the lose of (R142 6346-6350) from the March 27 fire incident and to make up for it they acquired 7121-7125 from the (4).

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With this particular fleet swap, I'm assuming maybe it has something to do with the lose of (R142 6346-6350) from the March 27 fire incident and to make up for it they acquired 7121-7125 from the (4).

Isn’t 405 cars each for the (2) and (5) enough for both lines, given that the line only needs around 360-370 cars for normal rush hour service? Are the transfers of cars 7121-7125 meant to prop up their spare ratio after cars 6346-6350 after that fire?

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13 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

Isn’t 405 cars each for the (2) and (5) enough for both lines, given that the line only needs around 360-370 cars for normal rush hour service? Are the transfers of cars 7121-7125 meant to prop up their spare ratio after cars 6346-6350 after that fire?

It's to replace 6346-6350 from the (2) incident. Also, the (4) has enough trains as the total calls for 36 out of 42 trains in passenger service. 

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It's to replace 6346-6350 from the (2) . Also, the (4) still maintained their spare factor as the total calls for 36 out of 42 trains in passenger service. 

I know that, but I thought the (2) and (5) could get away with having only 40.5 trains each. Doesn’t the (2) and (5) also require 36 trains in service or a little bit more?

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4 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

I know that, but I thought the (2) and (5) could get away with having only 40.5 trains each. Doesn’t the (2) and (5) also require 36 trains in service or a little bit more?

Just 36. 

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On 7/8/2020 at 10:33 AM, Calvin said:

R32s for (J)(Z) service: 3360-61, 3376-77, 3380-81, 3388-89, 3394-95, 3396-97, 3400-01, 3414-15, 3432-33, 3436-37, 3444:3777, 3454-55, 3460-61, 3488-89, 3500-01, 3512-13, 3514-15, 3520:3891, 3574-75, 3614-15, 3646-47, 3670-71, 3706-07, 3714-15, 3716-17, 3772-73, 3774-75, 3778-79, 3780-81, 3792-93, 3798-99, 3804-05, 3810-11, 3834-35, 3840-41, 3886-87, 3888-89, 3894-95, 3912-13, 3928-29, 3932-33 (9 8-car trains with a 4 cars to spare)

3404-5, 3430-1, 3628/3669, 3872-3, and 3419/3471, 3688-3689, 3471/3658, 3590-1 at ENY making the total to 11 8-car trains w. a 4-car spare. 

 

ENY has all their 4-car R160A units except 8649-8652 that's CBTC testing (8313-8648, 9943-9974)

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On 7/16/2020 at 12:30 AM, Calvin said:

3404-5, 3430-1, 3628/3669, 3872-3, and 3419/3471, 3688-3689, 3471/3658, 3590-1 at ENY making the total to 11 8-car trains w. a 4-car spare. 

 

ENY has all their 4-car R160A units except 8649-8652 that's CBTC testing (8313-8648, 9943-9974)

3548/3593 and 3896/7 also at ENY. They were seen on the (J) this week.

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8913-8917, 9088-9092: C.I to Jamaica 

C.I R160B Siemens units are all on the 9000 series: 9008-9012, 9023-9087, 9093-9102 (8 10-car trains)

Jamaica probably wanted 8913-8917 So the car numbers are more uniform. I would have expected 9008-9012 to go instead of 9088-9092. So much for keeping 120 R160s in Coney Island, considering that Jamaica didn’t transfer out as many R46s and (prior to the pandemic and R179 issues), the R32s were being retired out with the R179s

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On 8/1/2020 at 7:34 PM, Calvin said:

8913-8917, 9088-9092: C.I to Jamaica 

C.I R160B Siemens units are all on the 9000 series: 9008-9012, 9023-9087, 9093-9102 (8 10-car trains)

Which then got sent back to the (N) right now to Astoria-Ditmars

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here's all the R32's that are in service these are rotated between 207th and ENY :

3360/3361,3376/3377,3380/3381,3384/3385,3388/3389,3394/3395,3396/3397,3400/3401,3404/3405,3414/3415,3419/3740,3424/3425,3426/3427,3430/3431,

3432/3433,3436/3437,3444/3777,3454/3455,3460/3461,3471/3658,3472/3473,3488/3489,3500/3501,3512/3513,3514/3515,3520/3891,3548/3593,3574/3575,3590/3591,

3586/3587,3614/3615,3624/3625,3628/3669,3646/3647,3650/3767,3670/3671,3682/3683,3688/3689,3706/3707,3714/3715,3716/3717,3730/3731,3732/3733,3772/3773

,3774/3775,3778/3779,3780/3781,3782/3783,3792/3793,3798/3799,3804/3805,3806/3807,3810/3811, 3822/3823,3828/3829,3834/3835,3840/3841,3872/3873,3886/3887,
3888/3889, 3894/3895,3896/3897,3912/3913,3924/3925,3928/3929,3932/3933,3938/3939.




 






possible work service as these didn't pop up on the (J) yet (3938/3939 also didn't pop up on the (J) ) 
3522/3523
3876/3877

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Jamaica and C.I fleet swap (Part II): 

C.I to Jamaica -> 9028-9032, 9043-9047, 9053-9057, 9058-9062, 9068-9072, 9083-9078, 9088-9092, 9098-9102

Jamaica to C.I -> 9838-9842, 9843-9847, 9853-9857, 9858-9862, 9903-9907, 9908-9912, 9913-9917, 9918-9922 

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Jamaica and C.I fleet swap (Part II): 

C.I to Jamaica -> 9028-9032, 9043-9047, 9053-9057, 9058-9062, 9068-9072, 9083-9078, 9088-9092, 9098-9102

Jamaica to C.I -> 9838-9842, 9843-9847, 9853-9857, 9868-9872, 9873-9877, 9903-9907, 9908-9912, 9918-9922 

Add 9833-9837/9858-9862 (just got off it at Ditmars Blvd)

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Just wanting to say to everyone here: Hope all is well, Be safe. 

And..

 

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

 

Before the notes, there are some moves that are reflected between June 2020 to December 2020: 

- R142 7121-7125, 7126-7130: Jerome Av to E.180 St

- R160B Siemens 8888-8892, 8913-8917, 8938-8942, 8978-8982, 8993-8997, 9003-9012, 9018-9102: Coney Island to Jamaica while R160B Alstom 9833-9922: Jamaica to Coney Island. 

- R62A 1906 and 1907: Corona Yard to 207 St for heavy maintenance, pending to Livonia Yard. 

 

*Roster changes: Reflected as of Friday, January 1st 

 

IRT A Division

 

 240 St Yard  (1) 

- 1984-87 Bombardier R62A subway car: 1826-1830, 1841-1900, 2156-2220, 2226-2345, 2351-2455, 2466-2475 (365 cars- 36.5 trains)

Total trains: 36

 

Livonia Yard: (3) 42 St (S) 
 -1983-85 Kawasaki R62  : 1301-1365, 1371-1430, 1431-1434:1438, 1441-1625  (315 cars- 31.5 trains)    

  - 42 St Shuttle units: 1906-1907 (2 pending units currently in heavy maintenance), 1908, 1910, 1921-1922:1925, 1928-1930, 1932-1933, 1935-1937, 1941, 1943-4:1947-1948-1949, 1950-1951, 1953, 1955-1956 -> Total single units: 29

 

 

- Bronx line and Nostrand Av (2)(5)  :      

1999-2003 Bombardier R142 Subway cars:   239 St - 6301-6345, 6351-6715: 410 cars: 41 trains,  E.180 St/Unionport: 6716-7130: 415 cars - 41 trains with a 5-car spare. 

Total trains: 82.5 (825 cars)

*Refuse service: R127 EP002-5, R134 EP017-018, Redbird 19324, 19326, 19329, 19330, 19331, 19340, (at E.180 St- 19309, 19322-19323, 19325) 

 

 Jerome Av Yard (By the Tracey Towers)  (4) 

- 2002-2003 Bombardier R142 subway car: 1101-1250, 7131-7180 (200 cars- 20 trains)

- 1999-2004 Kawasaki R142A subway car: 7591-7810 (220 cars- 22 trains)

Total trains: 42

 

 Westchester Yard  (6)<6>  

- 1984-87 Bombardier R62A subway car: 1651-1825, 1831-1840, [1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905], 1911-1920, (1931-1927-1923-1952-1940),

 (1934-1924-1926-1938-1942), 1954:1957-1960, 1961-2155, *(2221-2225, 2346-2350, 2456-2465) -> (Total trains: 43 = 430 cars)

 

 

 Corona Yard  (7)<7> 

- Kawasaki R188 subway cars *CBTC Flushing line (ranging from 1999-2003 and 2011-12)

Converted sets: 7211-7590, C car units: 7899-7936 (38), Factory made units: 7811-7898  (8)

Total 11-car trains: 46

 Work service: R127s (EP006, 007, 008, 009), R134s (EP011, 012, 013),

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B Division  (BMT/IND lines) 

 

 207 St Yard (C)              

- 1975-78 Pullman R46 subway car: 6-8  8-car trains in rotation from the Pitkin Yard pool

- 2015-19 Bombardier R179 Subway car (4-car setup): 3146-3237 (92 cars in-total) 

Trivia: The (C) trains does use 8-cars as a train. However, some trains stops at the regular 8 marker (62 ft) or at the 10 marker (75 ft). 

 

Pitkin Yard: (A) , Rockaway  (S) 

- 1975-78 Pullman R46 subway car: 5878-6061, 6066-6149, 6154-6205, [6152-6153:6206-6207] [6064-6065-6063:6212], 6208:6210, 6216:6218, 6220:6222, 6224:6226, 6228:6230, 6232:6234, 6236:6238, 6240:6242, 6244:6246, 6248:6250, 6252:6254, 6256:6258 (Total count: 352 cars = 44 8 car trains)

- 2015-19 Bombardier R179 Subway car: 3010-3049, 3238-3327 (130 cars in-total, 13 10 car trains in-service) 

 

 

East New York Yard  (J)(L)(M)(Z)           

- 2001-02 Kawasaki R143  subway car:  8101-8312  -> 212 cars = 26.4 8-car trains

- 2007-09 Alstom R160A-1 subway car (4-car package): 

( 8313-8376- 64 cars = 8 trains) , (8377-8652, 9943-9974= 308 cars) = Total cars- 372

- 2015-19 Bombardier R179 subway car: 3050-3145: 96 cars In-service (11 8 car trains)

Route info: The (M) is 8-car 62 ft trains on weekdays. During the weekends, all  (M) trains are 4-car trains .         

The CBTC (L) line is made up of R143s and R160A (8313-8376). R160A-1 8325-8328, 8337-8340 has the cuomo scheme with the LCD screen .  

The (J)(Z)  pool consists of R143, R160A-1 and R179. 

 

Jamaica Yard [Queens Blvd corridor] (E)(F)(R)*CBTC in the work of progress          

- [ Alstom R160A-2 subway car: 8653-8712, 9233-9802 ] (630 units = 63 10-car trains)

[ Kawasaki R160B subway car: < 8843-9102: Siemens propulsion = 26 10 car trains > 

8713-8842,  9103-9232, 9803-9832, 9923-9942  (Alstom Onix propulsion in the total of 31) ] (570 units = 57 10-car trains)

Trivia: -Some Alstom R160B cars have bench seating while others have the cuomo scheme having no seats on each end as a standing room. 

 The R160 package are both Alstom and Siemens in a total of 1,170 cars with 30 extras as part of QBL CBTC signal system = 120 10-car trains = 1,200.

 

Coney Island Yard:  (B)(N)(Q)(W)(G)    Franklin Av (S)       

-1975-78 Pullman R46 subway car: 5482-5877 (396 cars = 49.4 8 car trains) *6214 is in-storage

- 1986-88 Westinghouse R68 subway car: 2768-2915 (148 cars = 18.4 8 car trains), 2916-24- 9 units used on the Franklin Av S (2 cars as a Shuttle).

- 1988-89 Kawasaki R68A subway car: 5001-5200 (200 cars = 25 8 car trains) 

- 2005-09 R160B Alstom propulsion subway cars: 9833-9922 = 90 units (9 10 car trains)

Electric Railroaders' Association reference: (N)(W) : R46 , R68/A, R160B  Alstom,  (Q) : R46 and R68/A, *R160B (secondary)    (G) : 4-car R68/A (R46: secondary),  (B) : R68/A ( 8 cars). 

 

Concourse Yard (D)     

- 1986-88 Westinghouse R68 subway car: 2500-2767 (268 cars: 33.4 8 car trains)

 

*Other Refuse units: EP006, 010 R127, R32 work units: #3494-5,  #3642-3 #3694-5, 13510-1, 13552-3,

R134 EP14-15-16,  Redbird #9334-9335, #9340-9345, R42 work units: 4790-4817, 4820-4839

 

 

Clifton Yard (SIR- Staten Island Railway)  

1971-74 R44, Staten Island:  :388-398, 400-401, 403-436, 438, 440, 442, 444, 446, 448, 450, 452, 454, 456, 458, 460, 462, 464  

(61 cars total= 15 4-car trains) * There are 4 doors per side. 

 

Storaged R32 units: 3360-3361, 3376-3377, 3380-3381, 3388-3389, 3394-3397, 3400-3401, 3404-3405, 3414-3415, 3419/3740, 3424-3427, 3430-3433, 3436-3437, 3444/3777, 3454-3455, 3460-3461, 3472-3473, 3488-3489, 3500-3501, 3512-3515, 3548/3593, 3520/3891, 3574-3575, 3590-3591, 3614-3615, 3624-3625, 3628/3669, 3650/3767, 3646-3647, 3670-3671, 3682-3683, 3688-3689, 3706-3707, 3714-3717, 3730-3731, 3772-3775, 3778-3781, 3792-3793, 3798-3799, 3804-3807, 3810-3811, 3834-3835, 3840-3841, 3872-3873, 3886-3889, 3894-3897, 3912-3913, 3928-3929, 3932-3933, 3938-3939

 

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Fleet-swap recap between Jamaica Yard and Coney Island

Act 1:  The swap consisted of the R160s that were on the (N)(Q)(W) and R46s from the (F)(R) . Fleets must be swapped because of CBTC on Queens Blvd line. The swap started on December 2019 up to March 2020. Units swapped were R46s 5482-5497, 5502-5505, 5510-5569, 5578-5733, 5738-5801, 5806-5825, 5830-5841. 5842-5877 were ex. Pitkin units sent back to Jamaica Yard as R179s were in passenger service. The total R46s is at 46. Coney Island Yard had 8653-8772, 8778-8837, 8843-8887, 8893-8912, 8918-8937, 8943-8977, 8983-8992, 8998-9002, 9013-9017, and 9103-9107, 9113-9122, 9143-9152, 9163-9167, 9173-9177, 9183-9187, 9193-9202, 9208-9217, 9233-9237, 9248-9272, 9443-9482 in the trade (Total of 45 trains). 

Act 2:   Leftover R46s that were at Jamaica Yard were 5498-5501, 5506-5509, 5570-5577, 5734-5737, 5802-5805 and 5826-5829: 28 cars = 3 8-car trains with a 4-car spare. They were moved to Coney Island around May 2020. One month later, Coney Island sent 3 10-car trains of their R160s (Siemens propulsion) over to the (A) line because of the R179 failures that then resulted to the exchange to Jamaica Yard. Those units are 8888-8892, 8913-8917, 8938-8942, 8978-8982, 8993-8997, 9003-9007 and 9018-9022. 

Act 3:  Moving to December 2020: Coney Island Yard had at least 9 10-car trains of Siemens R160Bs in their hands 9008-9012, 9023-9102 but they were sent to Jamaica Yard to have CBTC installed on the QBL and easier grouping as Jamaica Yard has over 1,000 subway cars in one class type. In exchange, Jamaica Yard sent out 9833-9922 to Coney Island Yard, Alstom propulsion cars. Used mostly on the (N) and (W) lines.

 

From start to finish, the result(s) consist of Jamaica Yard being 100% R160 while Coney Island now has a mixture of train equipment being R46, R68/A and R160 class car(s). This changes as most (but all) ex. Coney Island units are at Jamaica Yard and that's the same for Jamaica at Coney Island. 

 

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My sources: 

https://erausa.org/bulletin/2020/

https://www.ttmg.org/insidersguide/current-rosters/new-york-mta-rail-roster/new-york-mta-subway-roster-yard/

 

 

 Thank you to all the MTA workers keeping NYC moving throughout the tough times in this situation.  ❤️ 

Stay Healthy and Be Safe! 

And also, wear a mask. :) 

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