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On 5/11/2020 at 9:51 PM, Calvin said:

The fleet swap between Jamaica Yard and Coney Island is complete. Last leftover 8 75 ft R46 train departed Jamaica Yard. 

Welcome back to the Coney Island Yard Old friend

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3142-3149: ENY to 207 St. 

I would give this some time before it’s officially declared a transfer. I know someone mentioned spotted working the (C), but there have been times where cars moved and then returned to its original yard.

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*Roster changes: Reflected as of June 1st, 2020

 

IRT A Division

 

 240 St Yard  (1) 

- 1984-87 Bombardier R62A subway car: 1826-1830, 1841-1900, 2156-2220, 2226-2345, 2351-2455, 2466-2475 (365 cars- 36.5 trains)

Total trains: 36

 

Livonia Yard
 -1983-85 Kawasaki R62 (3) : 1301-1365, 1371-1430, 1431-1434:1438, 1441-1625  (315 cars- 31.5 trains)    

  - 42 St Shuttle units in-storage: 1908, 1910, 1921, 1925, 1929-1930, 1933, 1935-1937, 1941, 1945-1946, 1950-1951, 1955-1956 (17 units with seats),

1922, 1928, 1932, 1939, 1953 (5 units: standing car) = 22 units. 

 

 

- Bronx line and Nostrand Av (2) (5) :      

1999-2003 Bombardier R142 Subway cars:   239 St - 6301-6345, 6351-6715: 410 cars: 41 trains,  E.180 St/Unionport: 6716-7120: 405 cars - 40 trains with a 5-car spare. 

Total trains: 81.5 (815 cars)

*Refuse service: EP001-5, Redbird 19324, 19326, 19329, 19330, 19331, 19340, (at E.180 St- 19309, 19322-19323, 19325) 

 

 Jerome Av Yard (By the Tracey Towers)  (4) 

- 2002-2003 Bombardier R142 subway car: 1101-1250, 7121-7180 (210 cars- 21 trains)

- 1999-2004 Kawasaki R142A subway car: 7591-7810 (220 cars- 22 trains)

Total trains: 43

 

 Westchester Yard (6) <6> 

- 1984-87 Bombardier R62A subway car: 1651-1825, 1831-1840, [1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905], 1911-1920, (1931-1927-1923-1952-1940),

 (1934-1924-1926-1938-1942), 1954:1957-1960, 1961-2155, *(2221-2225, 2346-2350, 2456-2465) -> (Total trains: 43 = 430 cars)

 ** 1943-1944+1947-1949: At 207 St (storage for maintenance) 

 

 Corona Yard (7) <7> 

- Kawasaki R188 subway cars *CBTC Flushing line (ranging from 1999-2003 and 2011-12)

Converted sets: 7211-7590, C car units: 7899-7936 (38), Factory made units: 7811-7898  (8)

Total 11-car trains: 46

 Work service: R134s (11-13), *Leftover single unit R62As: #1906  and #1907

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B Division  (BMT/IND lines) 

 

 207 St Yard  (C)            

- 1975-78 Pullman R46 subway car: 7  8-car trains in rotation from the Pitkin Yard pool

- 2015-19 Bombardier R179 Subway car (4-car setup): 3146-3237 (92 cars in-total) 

Trivia: The (C) trains does use 8-cars as a train. However, some trains are 62 footers (stops at the regular 8 marker) or 75 footers (stops at the 10 marker). The C/R position is the same (4-4 style) but, the length is different. 

 

Pitkin Yard: (A) , Rockaway (S) 

- 1975-78 Pullman R46 subway car: 5878-6149, 6156-6205, [6152-6153:6206-6207] 6208:6210, 6212:6214,6216:6218, 6220:6222, 6224:6226, 6228:6230, 6232:6234, 6236:6238, 6240:6242, 6244:6246, 6248:6250, 6252:6254, 6256:6258, (Total count: 354 cars = 44 8 car trains with an A-A unit)

- 2015-19 Bombardier R179 Subway car: 3010-3049, 3238-3327 (130 cars in-total, 13 10 car trains in-service) 

 

East New York Yard  (J) (L) (M) (Z)       

- 2001-02 Kawasaki R143 (*CBTC 14 St-Canarsie Line) subway car:  8101-8312  -> 212 cars = 26.4 8-car trains

- 2007-09 Alstom R160A-1 subway car (4-car package): 

(CBTC activated: 8313-8376- 64 cars = 8 trains *while in-service on the (J) (Z) and (M) lines, these cars are on CBTC bypass)  

(8377-8648, 9943-9974= 308 cars) = Total cars- 368    *8649-8652: CBTC testing at C.I Yard

- 2015-19 Bombardier R179 subway car: 3050-3145: 96 cars In-service (11 8 car trains)

Route info: The (M) is 8-car 62 ft trains on weekdays. During the weekends, all (M) trains are 4-car trains .       

The CBTC (L) line is made up of R143s and R160A (8313-8376). R160A-1 8325-8328, 8337-8340 has the cuomo scheme with the LCD screen . 

The (J) (Z) pool consists of R143, R160A-1 and R179. 

 

Jamaica Yard [Queens Blvd corridor]  (E) (F) (R)     

- [ Alstom R160A-2 subway car: 8653-8712, 9233-9802 ] (630 units = 63 10-car trains)

[ Kawasaki R160B subway car: < 8843-8887, 8893-8912, 8918-8937, 8943-8977, 8983-8992, 8998-9002, 9013-9017: Siemens propulsion = 14 10 car trains > 

8713-8842  9103-9232, 9803-9942  (Alstom Onix propulsion) ] (540 units = 54 10-car trains)

Trivia: -Some Alstom R160B cars have bench seating while others have the cuomo scheme having no seats on each end as a standing room. 

- As of 5-11-20, the fleet swap with Coney Island phasing out their R46s was completed. Traded units of the swap: if the C.I units were not selected for the Cuomo scheme are:  8653-8842, 8843-8887, 8893-8912, 8918-8937, 8943-8977, 8983-8992, 8998-9002, 9013-9017, and 9103-9222 (Total of 45 trains).  This Yard now holds a total of over 1,000 subway cars in one-class type train.

 The R160 package are both Alstom and Siemens in a total of 1,170 cars = 117 10-car trains.

 

Coney Island Yard: (N) (Q) (W)  (G)  Franklin Av (S)     

-1975-78 Pullman R46 subway car: 5482-5877 (396 cars = 49.4 8 car trains)

- 1986-88 Westinghouse R68 subway car: 2768-2915 (148 cars = 18.4 8 car trains), 2916-24- 9 units used on the Franklin Av S (2 cars as a Shuttle).

- 1988-89 Kawasaki R68A subway car: 5001-5200 (200 cars = 25 8 car trains) 

- 2005-09 R160B Siemens propulsion subway cars: 8888-8892, 8913-7, 8938-42, 8978-82, 8993-7, 9003-9012, 9018-9102 = 120 units (12 10 car trains)

Trivia: (N) (W) : R46 and R68/A, *R160B Siemens,   (Q) : R46 and R160B Siemens, *R68/A     (G) : 4-car R46 and R68/A,   (B) : R68/A ( 8 cars).

-The R46 that's at Coney Island were traded by moving all their R160 Alstom units and 1/2 their Siemens units over to Jamaica Yard for CBTC preparation. The Pullman R46 cars are used on the (N)(W) and (Q) trains. The (G) is also used as it's a shared route at Coney Island Yard. 45 R46 swapped trains are 5482-5841 (one-on-one trade at Jamaica Yard for an R160). 5842-5877 were given from Pitkin Yard as an extra accommodation to the pool from the R179 A train arrival. - After the exchange, 12 R160B are left (Siemens package) and kept for the (N) and (Q)  lines, still in-use but the number is small. 

 

 

Concourse Yard  (D)    

- 1986-88 Westinghouse R68 subway car: 2500-2767 (268 cars: 33.4 8 car trains)

 

*Other facts: Refuse units:  (38 St Yard): EP006-10, R32 work units: #3494-5,  #3642-3 #3694-5

207 St refuse: EP14-18 Redbird #9334-9335, #9340-9345, R32 work units: 13510-1, 13552-3, 3414-3415, 3430-3431, 3614-3615, 3780-3781, 3798-3799, 3804-3805

 

 

Clifton Yard (SIR- Staten Island Railway)

1971-74 R44, Staten Island:  :388-398, 400-401, 403-436, 438, 440, 442, 444, 446, 448, 450, 452, 454, 456, 458, 460, 462, 464  

(61 cars total= 15 4-car trains) * There are 4 doors per side. 

 

 Thank you to all the MTA workers keeping NYC moving throughout the tough times in this situation.  ❤️ (MTA)

Stay Healthy and Be Safe! 

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Also.. references to the updates: 

* https://www.ttmg.org/ 

*www.nycsubway.org

* https://ny.curbed.com/2019/2/27/18240200/mta-nyc-subway-signal-delays-infrastructure-guide 

* https://mcusercontent.com/53077b4eb8363107e691b3757/files/3f7f48ce-791c-45bf-b471-24e35bc05987/May_2020_ERA_Bulletin.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1vRYcy-NNbV7IDxWF8skB3R0YUidZLXFpyQvvmr5tdkPowjmaRaDOrMW4 (Era Bulletin Post: May 2020 edition) 

* A transition fleet swap for the (Q) on the Second Av line: https://nypost.com/2020/02/28/mta-saddles-q-train-riders-with-old-subway-cars-to-prep-for-new-signal-system/

* This video mentions CBTC on the (F) line. However, Culver link buses aren't running due to the COVID-19 situation until further notice. Alternative transfer to/from Coney Island is the (N) train making all local stops at 4 Av-9 St during weekends as (F) trains terminate at Church Av (McDonald Av) at that time. For stops further down the Culver line, closest you can get is the B68 bus between 15 St-Prospect Park and Coney Island-Stillwell Av. 

 

 

 

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Trivia: The (C) trains does use 8-cars as a train. However, some trains are 62 footers (stops at the regular 8 marker) or 75 footers (stops at the 10 marker). The C/R position is the same (4-4 style) but, the length is different. 

60 ft, the 2 is an error due to last minute changes. 

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1 hour ago, Collin said:

When R40's were briefly used on the (C) I think in 2009, why did they have to stop at the 10 car marker at the front of the platform?

Lack of door controls in the motorman's cab.  As a result, only the blind ends could be used by the conductor.  This was a problem with the R40Ms and R42s as well.  The MTA didn't want to move the in-station conductor boards from the 4-4 position to the 5-3 position; ultimately, having the 8-car trains stop at the 10-car marker became an issue due to the trains being off-center and passengers running, so the cars were shifted to the (A) instead after a few weeks. 

This is also why the 5-3 setup was used when the R40/42s ran on the Eastern Division.  Looking back in retrospect, it never made much sense to me- would probably have been easier if they had just assigned the R32/38s to ENY for the 4-4 setup and sent the R40/42s to run on 10-car lines...

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On 6/1/2020 at 2:26 PM, R10 2952 said:
On 6/1/2020 at 1:14 PM, Collin said:

When R40's were briefly used on the (C) I think in 2009, why did they have to stop at the 10 car marker at the front of the platform?

Lack of door controls in the motorman's cab.  As a result, only the blind ends could be used by the conductor.  This was a problem with the R40Ms and R42s as well.  The MTA didn't want to move the in-station conductor boards from the 4-4 position to the 5-3 position; ultimately, having the 8-car trains stop at the 10-car marker became an issue due to the trains being off-center and passengers running, so the cars were shifted to the (A) instead after a few weeks. 

This is also why the 5-3 setup was used when the R40/42s ran on the Eastern Division.  Looking back in retrospect, it never made much sense to me- would probably have been easier if they had just assigned the R32/38s to ENY for the 4-4 setup and sent the R40/42s to run on 10-car lines...

They had to line up with Train Operator "punch." There were no punch sometimes at proposed 8-car stops.

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On 6/17/2020 at 7:57 AM, R32MB said:

Why are 8838 to 8842 R160B missing from the June 1st listing?

thats strange. before 8833-8837 were out of service due to CBTC training, but were officially sent to Jamaica when the last alstom R160B left for Jamaica (8768-8772). 8838-8842 was sent to Jamaica in 2017 when the Cuomo Schemes were applied and sent 70 R160Bs from Coney Island to Jamaica in exchange for 70 R160A-2s.

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28 minutes ago, VIP said:

Also 9053-9057 is back at Coney Island. It’s also on the (N) 

That includes 9088-9092. Seems that Jamaica's (140) and C.I's units (120) are rotated or a uniform plan. 

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The Coney Island units 8888-8892, 8938-8942, 8978-8982, 8993-8997, 9003-9007 and 9018-9022 are at Jamaica Yard for Queens Blvd (E)(F)(R) . 8913-8917 remains at Coney Island Yard in the pool of 90 cars (9 10-car trains total). 

 

R32s for (J)(Z) service: 3360-61, 3376-77, 3380-81, 3388-89, 3394-95, 3396-97, 3400-01, 3414-15, 3432-33, 3436-37, 3444:3777, 3454-55, 3460-61, 3488-89, 3500-01, 3512-13, 3514-15, 3520:3891, 3574-75, 3614-15, 3646-47, 3670-71, 3706-07, 3714-15, 3716-17, 3772-73, 3774-75, 3778-79, 3780-81, 3792-93, 3798-99, 3804-05, 3810-11, 3834-35, 3840-41, 3886-87, 3888-89, 3894-95, 3912-13, 3928-29, 3932-33 (9 8-car trains with a 4 cars to spare)

 

R179s: 3050-3145 (ENY) , 3146-3237 (207), 3010-3049, 3238-3327 (Pitkin) -> Out Of Service until further notice. 

Jamaica/C.I's R160s, R32s at ENY will be filling in for those cars until further notice. 

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10 hours ago, Calvin said:

The Coney Island units 8888-8892, 8938-8942, 8978-8982, 8993-8997, 9003-9007 and 9018-9022 are at Jamaica Yard for Queens Blvd (E)(F)(R) . 8913-8917 remains at Coney Island Yard in the pool of 90 cars (9 10-car trains total). 

 

R32s for (J)(Z) service: 3360-61, 3376-77, 3380-81, 3388-89, 3394-95, 3396-97, 3400-01, 3414-15, 3432-33, 3436-37, 3444:3777, 3454-55, 3460-61, 3488-89, 3500-01, 3512-13, 3514-15, 3520:3891, 3574-75, 3614-15, 3646-47, 3670-71, 3706-07, 3714-15, 3716-17, 3772-73, 3774-75, 3778-79, 3780-81, 3792-93, 3798-99, 3804-05, 3810-11, 3834-35, 3840-41, 3886-87, 3888-89, 3894-95, 3912-13, 3928-29, 3932-33 (9 8-car trains with a 4 cars to spare)

 

R179s: 3050-3145 (ENY) , 3146-3237 (207), 3010-3049, 3238-3327 (Pitkin) -> Out Of Service until further notice. 

Jamaica/C.I's R160s, R32s at ENY will be filling in for those cars until further notice. 

Coney Island yard only spared two sets of 160’s to Pitkin?! They should’ve sent them R46’s 😛

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The Coney Island units 8888-8892, 8938-8942, 8978-8982, 8993-8997, 9003-9007 and 9018-9022 are at Jamaica Yard for Queens Blvd (E)(F)(R) . 8913-8917 remains at Coney Island Yard in the pool of 90 cars (9 10-car trains total). 

 

R32s for (J)(Z) service: 3360-61, 3376-77, 3380-81, 3388-89, 3394-95, 3396-97, 3400-01, 3414-15, 3432-33, 3436-37, 3444:3777, 3454-55, 3460-61, 3488-89, 3500-01, 3512-13, 3514-15, 3520:3891, 3574-75, 3614-15, 3646-47, 3670-71, 3706-07, 3714-15, 3716-17, 3772-73, 3774-75, 3778-79, 3780-81, 3792-93, 3798-99, 3804-05, 3810-11, 3834-35, 3840-41, 3886-87, 3888-89, 3894-95, 3912-13, 3928-29, 3932-33 (9 8-car trains with a 4 cars to spare)

 

R179s: 3050-3145 (ENY) , 3146-3237 (207), 3010-3049, 3238-3327 (Pitkin) -> Out Of Service until further notice. 

Jamaica/C.I's R160s, R32s at ENY will be filling in for those cars until further notice. 

I thought more of the lower numbered R160B Siemens cars were going to be rotated to Coney Island yard to keep 120 cars in Coney Island. And what happened to 8918-8922/8928-8932, which was running on the (N) a few days ago?

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