BenTheMiner Posted October 7, 2023 Share #51 Posted October 7, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 7:53 PM, zacster said: I look at your list and the 3 sets that haven't run since August could easily just be out for service. There'll always be some that are sidelined in every car class. Yeah, like I said, I don't think any 4-car R46 sets are retired at the moment. On the other hand, it's highly likely that some of the married pairs are retired! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacster Posted October 7, 2023 Author Share #52 Posted October 7, 2023 From what I read here some of the married pairs are being used for parts. With 7 sets of R211s in service and 3 more sets doing burn in, they'll have to start moving cars out soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 7, 2023 Share #53 Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, zacster said: From what I read here some of the married pairs are being used for parts. With 7 sets of R211s in service and 3 more sets doing burn in, they'll have to start moving cars out soon. Yep, and the married pairs are first to go. I don't want to say that a married pair is retired for certain, but I have a feeling all the ones that aren't currently running are retired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 9, 2023 Share #54 Posted October 9, 2023 5878-81 10/2 5882-5 10/4 5886-9 10/5 5890-3 10/7 5894-7 10/7 5898-5901 10/6 5902-5 10/8 5906-9 10/8 5910-3 9/27 5914-7 10/7 5918-21 10/6 5922-5 10/5 5926-9 10/8 5930-3 10/7 5934-7 10/8 5938-41 10/7 5942-5 9/9 5946-9 10/4 5950-3 9/6 5954-7 10/8 5958-61 9/20 5962-5 10/5 5966-9 10/8 !!!5970-3 8/4 supposed 8/28 5974-7 9/25 5978-81 10/5 5982-5 10/5 5986-9 9/18 5990-3 9/24 5994-7 10/7 5998-6001 9/29 6002-5 10/6 6006-9 10/4 6010-13 10/7 6014-7 10/6 6018-21 10/4 6022-5 10/5 6026-9 9/25 6030-3 9/17 6034-7 10/6 6038-41 10/5 6042-5 10/6 6046-9 10/4 6050-3 10/7 6054-7 10/6 6058-61 10/3 6212+6063-5 10/3 6066-9 10/5 6070-3 9/10 6074-7 9/5 6078-81 9/27 6082-5 10/6 6086-9 10/8 6090-3 10/5 6094-7 10/6 6098-6101 10/6 6102-5 9/23 6106-9 9/26 6110-3 9/13? 6114-7 10/8 6118-21 10/6 6122-5 10/6 6126-9 9/21 6130-3 9/29 6134-7 9/20 6138-41 10/4 6142-5 10/5 6146-9 10/4 6152-3+6206-7 9/22 6154-7 10/8 6158-61 10/4 6162-5 9/29 6166-9 9/25 6170-3 9/6 6174-7 10/5 !!!6178-81 8/1 6182-5 10/5 6186-9 9/22 6190-3 10/6 !!!6194-7 8/18 6198-6201 10/8 6202-5 10/7 6208+10 10/8 !!!6216+8 8/27 or 28 !!!6220+2 7/26 6224+6 10/8 !!!6228+30 8/13 or 26 6232+4 10/6 6236+8 10/8 6240+2 10/6 !!!6244+6 8/7 !!!6248+50 5/20 !!!6252+4 8/27 6256+8 10/8 Last update 10/8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fans Posted October 9, 2023 Share #55 Posted October 9, 2023 Looks like the R46 I am being sideline one by one. Every time a R211 enters service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacster Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share #56 Posted October 10, 2023 I see a pattern in the numbers and the dates. It looks like the higher numbered 4 car sets have been sidelined the last few weeks where the lower numbers are not. I wouldn't call it a hard and fast rule, just an observation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 12, 2023 Share #57 Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 7:58 PM, Transit Fans said: Looks like the R46 I am being sideline one by one. Every time a R211 enters service. Nope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 12, 2023 Share #58 Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 11:14 PM, zacster said: I see a pattern in the numbers and the dates. It looks like the higher numbered 4 car sets have been sidelined the last few weeks where the lower numbers are not. I wouldn't call it a hard and fast rule, just an observation. Well, their retirement hasn't been confirmed and is currently unlikely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 12, 2023 Share #59 Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) In other news, R46 set 5550-5553, the set involved in the shooting in Sunset Park, is confirmed to be retired. Cars 5552, 5553, and 5550, have been moved from the Belt Parkway side of Coney Island Yard into the shed. Multiple parts were seen missing. Edited October 12, 2023 by BenTheMiner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fans Posted October 13, 2023 Share #60 Posted October 13, 2023 58 minutes ago, BenTheMiner said: Nope. So you saying that A line uses all there 27 and 28 sets of R46 on the weekday for revenue service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fans Posted October 13, 2023 Share #61 Posted October 13, 2023 By next week the fleet number of 4130-4139 will be starting next as the 8th set for the line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted October 13, 2023 Share #62 Posted October 13, 2023 15 hours ago, Transit Fans said: So you saying that A line uses all there 27 and 28 sets of R46 on the weekday for revenue service. The / need a total of 47 trains to make service + spares (38 trains, 2 trains, and 7 spares). Currently, the has 2 R179 trains, and the has 7 R211 trains + 9 R179s, requiring 22 R46s to run on the every weekday. the spare factor leaves 2 R179s, 1 R211, and 5 R46s in the yard. The I would say uses 4 R160s, 8 R179s, and 6-7 R46s (this variance in the R46s indicates an R46 that leaves service and transfers over to the for midday service, and then back to the for PM rush hour service, since the now has more frequent midday service than rush hour service. As a spare factor for the , there are 3 R179s and 2 R46s and 1 R160 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fans Posted October 13, 2023 Share #63 Posted October 13, 2023 Ok I get you so those 7 R46 when push by the R211 for spare factor. The only issue with that is once the R46 are gone from the and . They will need more R211A from the option 1 to increase the spare factor again. Since the base order is not enough for the space factor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacster Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share #64 Posted October 13, 2023 By my count there are 40 or 41 complete trains of R46 available including the AA sets. This does NOT include the sets that haven't been used since August, which by my count is 3. The count of active + spares above comes to 22 + 5 + 7 + 2 = 36. So, 44 trainsets were assigned, 36 are truly needed including spares, that leaves 8 trains of R46 ready to be retired, cannibalized, or just stored somewhere. On top of that I believe there are 3 trains of R211A on site, with one being put into service today. And of course more are on the way. All this to say, they have to be starting soon to move these. Maybe CI needs some, but maybe not, and maybe some CI cars are on their last legs and should go first. Having been on the A a few times recently though the Pitkin ones are in no better shape, maybe even worse. I'm located along the Q and I see those all the time and they are in bad shape too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomRider0101 Posted October 13, 2023 Share #65 Posted October 13, 2023 20 hours ago, Transit Fans said: So you saying that A line uses all there 27 and 28 sets of R46 on the weekday for revenue service. That assignment is from before the R211s entered service. Any R46 sets not in service are used for the spare factor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 15, 2023 Share #66 Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 8:35 PM, Transit Fans said: So you saying that A line uses all there 27 and 28 sets of R46 on the weekday for revenue service. Also nope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 16, 2023 Share #67 Posted October 16, 2023 R46 married pair 6216+6218 has supposedly returned to service, to be confirmed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchytectAnthony Posted October 17, 2023 Share #68 Posted October 17, 2023 6 hours ago, BenTheMiner said: R46 married pair 6216+6218 has supposedly returned to service, to be confirmed. Can confirm i saw it at high st around 5:30 today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted October 17, 2023 Share #69 Posted October 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, ArchytectAnthony said: Can confirm i saw it at high st around 5:30 today This pair, specifically 6218 has a notably loud air brake release that sounds reminiscent of the Pre-GOH R-46 air brake. (That's unless they've fixed it since I last seen it on the on August 28th) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 17, 2023 Share #70 Posted October 17, 2023 Okay, yep. R46 married pair 6216+6218 returned to service, confirmed. It's paired to 6236+6238. It's unknown what happened to 6256+6258. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted October 17, 2023 Share #71 Posted October 17, 2023 R44 401 is retired/stripped of parts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacster Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share #72 Posted October 17, 2023 Something about the R211s being pulled from service temporarily made every R46 available necessary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slantfan4281 Posted October 17, 2023 Share #73 Posted October 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: R44 401 is retired/stripped of parts. Let's hope the R211S can be delivered quickly. Sounds like they're not even waiting before taking the 44s out of service 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 18, 2023 Share #74 Posted October 18, 2023 11 hours ago, zacster said: Something about the R211s being pulled from service temporarily made every R46 available necessary. Which DEFINITELY means the R46 sets are not retired at this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 18, 2023 Share #75 Posted October 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Lawrence St said: R44 401 is retired/stripped of parts. Any photos/videos? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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