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R46 Retirement Thread


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Status of R46 married pairs:

6208+10 10/20
6216+8 10/25
!!!6220+2 7/26
6224+6 10/20
!!!6228+30 8/13 or 26
6232+4 10/25
6236+8 10/18
6240+2 10/25
6244+6 10/25
6248+50 10/25
!!!6252+4 8/27, in 207 St Yard 10/20
6256+8 10/25

Some of the other pairs have stopped running. It's possible that they have been swapped out for service by the other ones that have returned to service like 6244+6246.

Either way, this means that 6244+6246 is not retired nor being used for parts. However, it going to CIY was still likely true, though for maintenance.

Additionally, 6252+6254 has been confirmed to be in 207 St Yard by itself. Now that's interesting...

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35 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

What happens after the investigation?

Most likely scrapped due to its age. If the car was younger and not part of a fleet that is in the process of retirement it would most likely be renumbered and returned to service after any repairs if necessary.

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R46 married pair 6252+6254 has returned to service (despite being seen by itself in 207th Street Yard for whatever reason). At this point, only one married pair has not seen in service... yet.

This likely means that none of the married pairs were actually retired. However, there is also a possibility that units could be reactivated for whatever reason such as when the R211 was taken out of service.

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5878-81 11/16
5882-5 10/26
5886-9 11/14
5890-3 11/12
5894-7 11/7
5898-5901 11/13
5902-5 11/3
5906-9 11/17
5910-3 11/14
5914-7 11/16
5918-21 11/17
5922-5 11/13
5926-9 11/19
5930-3 11/18
5934-7 11/6
5938-41 11/14
5942-5 9/9 - Concourse Yard 11/6 to 11/13
5946-9 11/19
5950-3 11/17
5954-7 11/17
5958-61 11/17
5962-5 11/13
5966-9 11/19
!!!5970-3 8/4 supposed 8/28
!!!5974-7 9/25
5978-81 11/17
5982-5 11/11
5986-9 11/17
5990-3 11/19
5994-7 11/19
5998-6001 11/16
6002-5 11/10
6006-9 11/18
6010-13 11/19
6014-7 11/17
6018-21 10/25 - Concourse Yard 11/9 to 11/13
6022-5 11/14
6026-9 11/16
6030-3 11/14
6034-7 11/19
6038-41 11/18
6042-5 11/14
6046-9 11/19
6050-3 11/14
6054-7 11/19
6058-61 11/13
6212+6063-5 11/17
6066-9 11/18
6070-3 11/18
6074-7 11/18
6078-81 11/11
6082-5 11/13
6086-9 11/6
6090-3 11/14
6094-7 11/18
6098-6101 11/18
6102-5 11/18
6106-9 10/5
6110-3 11/13
6114-7 11/14
6118-21 11/18
6122-5 11/16
6126-9 11/19
6130-3 11/10
6134-7 11/3
6138-41 11/18
6142-5 11/14
6146-9 11/17
6152-3+6206-7 9/22 - Pitkin Yard 10/24
6154-7 11/14
6158-61 11/19
6162-5 11/17
6166-9 11/17
6170-3 11/19
6174-7 11/17
6178-81 11/17
6182-5 11/8
6186-9 11/9
6190-3 11/18
!!!6194-7 8/18
6198-6201 11/16
6202-5 11/18

6208+10 11/12
6216+8 11/19
6220+2 11/15
6224+6 11/15
!!!6228+30 8/13 or 26 (likely NOT retired)
6232+4 11/19
6236+8 11/11
6240+2 11/10
6244+6 11/15
6248+50 11/15
6252+4 11/19
6256+8 11/19


Notice sets of interest marked with exclamation points and the sets in Concourse Yard (likely for wheel turning/truing/whatever).

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On 12/1/2023 at 9:34 PM, zacster said:

Maybe they'd run that as part of a 7 car C train?  Or have they already been cannibalized or written off?

Now why, just WHY would they run a 7 car train?! It’s been written off the moment the Feds got their hands and feet in them. 

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10 hours ago, VIP said:

Now why, just WHY would they run a 7 car train?! It’s been written off the moment the Feds got their hands and feet in them. 

The feds were only interested in 5551.  Given the supposed car shortage and the fact that the C runs a mix of 480' and 600' trains they could've used the other 3 cars to make a 525' train.  But they didn't and they did the other thing I speculated, cannibalized them.  Once the R211s are back there won't be a car shortage.

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3 hours ago, zacster said:

The feds were only interested in 5551.  Given the supposed car shortage and the fact that the C runs a mix of 480' and 600' trains they could've used the other 3 cars to make a 525' train.  But they didn't and they did the other thing I speculated, cannibalized them.  Once the R211s are back there won't be a car shortage.

unfortunately, that would not work in terms of stopping patterns in one direction. theoretically that would work for example- uptown, but downtown you'd need a special 9-car marker and boards to line up for that one R46 train consist, and you'd have too make sure the train doesn't loop around so that the 'triple' doesn't end up on the wrong end of the train.

 

Other ideas:

1. Just retire all 4 cars

2. Make 5550-5552 an A-A set and transfer to the (A) line / retire 5553

3. Add 6214 to the set and make the set 5550-6214-5553-5552

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