Art Vandelay Posted March 17, 2009 Share #176 Posted March 17, 2009 You were not mistaken. One pair was in service yesterday, 4098-4099 IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnyBrooklyn Posted March 17, 2009 Share #177 Posted March 17, 2009 Took this picture this morning so it shows the date for you non believers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 17, 2009 Share #178 Posted March 17, 2009 There are a number of R38s still active. (somewhere between 16 and 24) I don't believe any are required for service, but they still may see use til they are finally retired. Just because you don't see them doesnt mean they arent there. I am pretty sure they are at 207, not going back in service unless needed. - A You know march 16 (After NSF) i was on an R40M to Jamaica, I was at 36th st at about 6:15PM, I thought I saw an R38 on the From and the 32s in the back passing. I dunno if its me, or wat ever. But damn it look like a 38, seeing that the 32s has bards sticking out from top to bottom out, and when i saw the first 2 cars, it didnt.. then the 3 and later did :confused" You were not mistaken. One pair was in service yesterday, 4098-4099 IIRC. Took this picture this morning so it shows the date for you non believers out there. They are OFFICIALLY RETIRED, however some cars are revenue inactive. They may be put back into service if needed. It is only a temporary measure, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 17, 2009 Share #179 Posted March 17, 2009 i saw that exact pair today, but R38s are no longer in active revenue service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 17, 2009 Share #180 Posted March 17, 2009 i saw that exact pair today, but R38s are no longer in active revenue service. Yeah, they are just hanging around the system. But they will be gone in earnest soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted March 17, 2009 Share #181 Posted March 17, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 17, 2009 Share #182 Posted March 17, 2009 Interesting, I believe those R-38 fellas are probably going to the museam, ! Only 2.. the others might be reserved for work purposes or be sent to the ocean. It depends. But no other cars would be preserved for museum purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted March 17, 2009 Share #183 Posted March 17, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 17, 2009 Share #184 Posted March 17, 2009 I know, I guess the other may be used for Work on BMT/IND Lines while the retired RedBirds go on the IRT for safety purposes... Work Redbirds are prized for their ability to go between divisions. So if these guys (R38s) go to work, they might be used as trash trains? I don't really know. The only destination I see the bulk of them is the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted March 17, 2009 Share #185 Posted March 17, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 17, 2009 Share #186 Posted March 17, 2009 Well, I would want them to be Trash or Work Trains since it'll be so much fun than have them be dumped... There are other fleets that are going to be retired. How can you save all of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted March 17, 2009 Share #187 Posted March 17, 2009 Huh? You cannot say the R38's are retired if there are still sets in revenue service. Even if its one, they are not retired until that one set is permanently OOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 17, 2009 Share #188 Posted March 17, 2009 Huh? You cannot say the R38's are retired if there are still sets in revenue service. Even if its one, they are not retired until that one set is permanently OOS. I believe that all of the cars are marked out of regular service. But these guys will really leave in earnest soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted March 18, 2009 Share #189 Posted March 18, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 18, 2009 Share #190 Posted March 18, 2009 Well, put them on tracks in the yard that is rarely used, ! There is limited capacity at every yard. They can't store every car just so that some foamer could foam to death over it. Get over it. If they do, they have to maintain it. What use is it to maintain a car that is not going to be in revenue service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted March 18, 2009 Share #191 Posted March 18, 2009 There is limited capacity at every yard. They can't store every car just so that some foamer could foam to death over it. Get over it. If they do, they have to maintain it. What use is it to maintain a car that is not going to be in revenue service? Hate to play devil's advocate, but that's exactly what they do to the museum cars. Granted, those are "special cases." AWWang's proposal is a little far-fetched. And I'd rather have IRT cars as work trains rather than Div B cars. As MTR mentioned, they can run anywhere, and they have air conditioning (all the GOHed cars except for the R33WFs), if the kept that capability when they retired them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share #192 Posted March 18, 2009 The R32, R38, and R40 fleets are very useful for work trains. R32s are good for their durability, R38s for their high MDBF, and R40 for the best A/C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 18, 2009 Share #193 Posted March 18, 2009 The R32, R38, and R40 fleets are very useful for work trains. R32s are good for their durability, R38s for their high MDBF, and R40 for the best A/C. For work trains, the R32s are likely candidates. There may be a few R38s sets saved for work purposes, but that is unlikely. There is already a pair of slants acting as a garbage train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 18, 2009 Share #194 Posted March 18, 2009 Huh? You cannot say the R38's are retired if there are still sets in revenue service. Even if its one, they are not retired until that one set is permanently OOS. when you say "revenue", it means being assigned daily to run in service. the R38s are no longer doing that. a few cars are being used just to fill-in gaps caused by R32 maintanence. that does not count as revenue service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 18, 2009 Share #195 Posted March 18, 2009 when you say "revenue", it means being assigned daily to run in service. the R38s are no longer doing that. a few cars are being used just to fill-in gaps caused by R32 maintanence. that does not count as revenue service. Technically the C is fully R32s. However when say, there is a service gap, they might throw in these guys temporarily to make up for lost service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maserati7200 Posted March 18, 2009 Share #196 Posted March 18, 2009 Okay... so technically they are not fully out of service yet... they just are not used normally. (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 18, 2009 Share #197 Posted March 18, 2009 Okay... so technically they are not fully out of service yet... they just are not used normally. (?) I guess you can say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted March 18, 2009 Share #198 Posted March 18, 2009 i saw that exact pair today, but R38s are no longer in active revenue service. if they are not, why did i saw passengers in the train i saw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted March 18, 2009 Share #199 Posted March 18, 2009 Took this picture this morning so it shows the date for you non believers out there. station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted March 18, 2009 Share #200 Posted March 18, 2009 if they are not, why did i saw passengers in the train i saw? The R38 are still in revenue service.just that they're hard to find due to the number sets left.If what FlushingExpress said was true,the remaining cars wouldn't be serivce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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