QM1to6Ave Posted July 10, 2017 Share #26 Posted July 10, 2017 I think their current fleet is sufficient due to the fact that the buses are timed to the tram, adding cornell will only add a few minutes to the run time. How full do the buses get? I hope they won't be overloaded by the new influx of people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted July 10, 2017 Share #27 Posted July 10, 2017 How full do the buses get? I hope they won't be overloaded by the new influx of people A bus can easily handle the people coming off a full tram and then some. I've never seen people standing, but I've also never ridden during the height of rush. The whole island is small so essentially you can walk from one end to the other, and a lot of people do walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statty Posted July 11, 2017 Share #28 Posted July 11, 2017 I live on Roosevelt Island and the bus does get a standing load during peak rush hour times. Not only does it pickup from the tram, it picks people up from the F subway train right after. So it'll get pretty packed depending on the time of day. I think RIOC does a good job of handling rush hour, from personal experience. Any other time, pretty dead and plenty of seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted July 15, 2017 Share #29 Posted July 15, 2017 I live on Roosevelt Island and the bus does get a standing load during peak rush hour times. Not only does it pickup from the tram, it picks people up from the F subway train right after. So it'll get pretty packed depending on the time of day. I think RIOC does a good job of handling rush hour, from personal experience. Any other time, pretty dead and plenty of seats. Yeah that is true I do notice the station pulling a greater load ... But the service on the Island is amazing. I have never waited for a bus coming off the tram, I always see the bus arriving at the same time the tram is pulling in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share #30 Posted July 25, 2017 Found this interesting tidbit: https://web.archive.org/web/20170626084458/https://rioc.ny.gov/Board/NB-8.pdf The Board has asked us to investigate the use of alternative buses on Roosevelt Island prior to purchasing any additional diesel buses. Environmental and fiscal concerns have prompted interest by the Board in electric buses. Creating a fleet of electric buses for public transportation requires a review of routes, schedules, buses, batteries, infrastructure, budget and coordination with utility companies among other things. The decision to switch from diesel buses to electric buses is a question being reviewed by many municipalities and the subject of several pilot programs in Vienna, Chicago and London. RIOC has reviewed the use of electric buses in other municipalities and consulted with transportation expert Leslie Eudy from the National Renewable Energy Laboratory. Using electric buses requires infrastructure and scheduling choices such as battery size, charging time and infrastructure decisions on charging stations. Additionally, there are numerous companies that manufacture electric buses and different batteries. The proper bus and the proper battery must be selected for the intended use and a charging plan must be determined by a careful study to make the electric buses efficient and financially attractive. Though Roosevelt Island may be ideal for quick charging buses due to the short routes, RIOC has not yet taken any steps to create an appropriate plan for a switch to electric buses. Here in New York, The Metropolitan Transit Authority (“MTA”) engaged Columbia University to review the use of the electric buses. Subsequently, the MTA launched a pilot program involving the lease of ten electric buses. The pilot program will enable the MTA to evaluate the bus performance. The pilot program will also provide valuable data for the bus manufactures and hopefully provide information for a refined larger electric bus program. Most significantly, the MTA has asked RIOC to participate in an electric bus pilot program for 2018. The program would enable RIOC to use MTA electric buses for several days each season. The program, at no cost to RIOC, would enable RIOC to review battery options, charging options and as well as the actual bus itself. The MTA would collect and analyze detailed data from this usage that would be accessible to RIOC. The MTA has also stated their intent to share any and all additional data they collect from their larger City-wide pilot program. Participating in the MTA program will better enable RIOC to make decisions regarding electric buses in the future. However, the current RIOC diesel bus system is in dire need of new buses based on the amount of currently required repairs and the time such repairs take. According to our own staff: - Buses #1 and #2 are not usable. - Bus #3 is in need of extensive repairs involving the rear reline, slack adjusters and the air-conditioning system. - Bus #4 needs repairs to the reline and leaks fluid. The bus leaks inside when it rains. - Bus #6 needs reline work and turbo work. - Bus #7 has a defective wheelchair ramp. The backlog in bus repair work is caused by the large amount of work that is needed for the rest of the RIOC fleet (RIOC vehicles that are not buses). The needed repair work on other RIOC vehicles is causing routine preventative maintenance to fall behind. According to our staff, the purchase of two new buses is key to the sustainability of the entire RIOC bus fleet as well as other RIOC vehicles. This purchase cannot wait until a proper evaluation of the use of electric buses on Roosevelt Island is conducted. It is in our interest to have the MTA incur the cost of the pilot program including the creation of charging stations, procurement of buses and batteries plus training for staff. RIOC’s current fleet cannot maintain its current level of safe service during this time period unless two new diesel buses are purchased. Accordingly, I recommend the purchase of diesel buses upon the terms and conditions substantially similar to those outlined in the memorandum from Cyril Opperman to Shelton J. Haynes/Board of Directors dated March 10, 2017, attached hereto, while we also proceed down a path in the MTA pilot program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Bus Posted July 25, 2017 Share #31 Posted July 25, 2017 I didn't know they were suffering like that on Roosevelt Island. As for the electric buses, I think that's smart for them since there's only one or two routes on the island, and both are short, so electric buses would do well. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted July 26, 2017 Share #32 Posted July 26, 2017 I didn't know they were suffering like that on Roosevelt Island. As for the electric buses, I think that's smart for them since there's only one or two routes on the island, and both are short, so electric buses would do well. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk 2 routes? Which is the second because I've only ever seen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted July 26, 2017 Share #33 Posted July 26, 2017 I think the octagon express Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 26, 2017 Share #34 Posted July 26, 2017 They once apparently had electric buses. The mini ones. I had never known about it, but when I lived on the island and they were still running the Thomases, they had a bunch of them in the lot next to the garage, (along with some old Carpenters) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share #35 Posted June 4, 2018 There's a photo on Facebook of a new #11 in Parsapanny, so I'm assuming there's also a #10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted June 4, 2018 Share #36 Posted June 4, 2018 3 hours ago, GojiMet86 said: There's a photo on Facebook of a new #11 in Parsapanny, so I'm assuming there's also a #10. Yes very likely. 2 2005 OGs to replace, 2 2018 XD40s to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestFarms36 Posted June 4, 2018 Share #37 Posted June 4, 2018 36 minutes ago, Orion6025 said: Yes very likely. 2 2005 OGs to replace, 2 2018 XD40s to replace them. They are just Hungry asf for new buses, lame old excuse of 'Its broken but I got no choice but buy a new one.' Those buses should be the best out of the entire city compared to their Counterparts. Constant Stopping, Low Speeds, Smooth roads, not extensively exposed to bad conditions as Buses. They just wanted new buses PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted June 4, 2018 Share #38 Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, WestFarms36 said: They are just Hungry asf for new buses, lame old excuse of 'Its broken but I got no choice but buy a new one.' Those buses should be the best out of the entire city compared to their Counterparts. Constant Stopping, Low Speeds, Smooth roads, not extensively exposed to bad conditions as Buses. They just wanted new buses PERIOD. Um, no. The majority of what they have now(not including the two Xcelsiors), were already used prior to the island acquiring them, some of them were factory demos as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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