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More ideas.

 

Q35|Bklyn College÷Nostrand Av

Q35|via Flatbush Av

 

M5|Greenwich Village÷Houston St

M5|via Riverside Dr÷via 5 Av

That one is a bit hard.

 

Bx12|Pelham Bay÷Amendola Plz

Bx12|via Fordham Rd÷via Pelham Pkwy

 

B9|Marine Park÷Kings Plaza

B9|via 60 St÷via Av L

Only because it travels on Av L for more of a time than Av M.

 

B11|Sunset Park÷1 Av-58 St

B11|via 49 St

 

B31|Gerritsen Beach÷Lois Av

B31|via Gerritsen Av

For the above, I assume this is a suburban route, and why it only has the neighborhood destination right now.

 

B60|Canarsie÷Flatlands Av

B60|via Wilson Av÷via Rockaway Av

 

B57|Maspeth÷61 St

B57|via Flushing Av

 

B65|Ocean Hill÷Ralph Av

B65|via Dean St

 

S59|Tottenville÷Amboy Rd

S59|via Richmnd Av÷via Hylan Bl

 

X51|Aburndale÷165 St

X51|via Sanford Av

 

X63|Rosedale÷253 St-149 Av

X63|via Merrick Bl

 

X68|Floral Park÷268 St

X68|via Hillside Av

For the last three, again, I'm assuming that the reason they only display a neighborhood (except the X51) is because they're more suburban bus routes than say, the BM2 (which ironically, now displays my idea for their sign before they changed it).

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Id also make the Bronx- Manhattan Local routes that does crosstown to add CROSTOWN

 

Bx19 | Riverbank Park

Bx19 | via Southern Blvd via 145th-149th St

Bx19 | CROSSTOWN

 

 

Bx33 | Harlem- St. Nicholas Avenue

Bx33 | via 138th St , via 135th St

Bx33 | CROSSTOWN

 

etc.

 

And also add CROSSTOWN to Bx40/42 since its an East Tremont Avenue Crosstown Bus.. Add via Burnside ave for the hell of it

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From an artic I was using on the M100 (5722), Bx7 would say this......

 

 

 

wow thats crazy, is that the only d60 that has i out of KB?

 

But yeah it does go to Yonkers, just not continuing in like Bx9/10, rather the border

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Ok my ideas for terminal signs.

 

I like to see the (NYCT)(MTA) do is what done already i seen in Stamford CT area on their CT buses, in San Diego on their buses and elsewhere. That is add major stops or major neighborhoods/landmarks mentioned also even if it's not a terminal in the 'via' section besides the primary road that route travels on. With that said here mines in no order.

 

Not to mention adding the 'word' LOCAL on routes with both limited and local routes.

 

 

Manhattan

 

All of the Manhattan based local buses should add 'uptown' 'downtown' for the north-south lines and 'eastbound or 'westbound' for the crosstown.

 

M2 Uptown "Madison Ave Limited'

168th St/

via Powell Blvd

 

I think the hosptial should be mentioned and not 'washington heights' as i more think of "Washington Heights in area between the GWB area and 191 St.

 

M2 Downtown

5th Ave Limited

East Village

Via Museum Mile

 

M3 Uptown

Madison Ave Local

Ft George/191 St

via St Nicholas

 

M3 Downtown

5th Ave Local

East Village-8th & 4th Ave

via Museum Mile

 

 

M101 Uptown 3rd Av Limited

Ft George-191 St & Amsterdam

via Amsterdam

 

M101 Uptown 3rd Ave Local

Ft George-191 & Amsterdam

via Amsterdam

 

M103 Uptown 3rd Ave Local

East Harlem-125th St & Lex station

 

M42 42nd Crosstown

Hudson River piers-12 nd Ave

via Grand Central

via Times Square

 

 

Brooklyn

 

B15 "Bushwick' Woodhull Hosptial

Flushing Ave Station

Via Brookdale Hosp.

This stop is in Bushwick not Bed Stuvy.

 

B16 Lefferts Gardens-Empire & Flatbush

Prospect Park station

via Ft Hamilton/13rd Ave.

 

B47 Bushwick Woodhull Hosptial

Flushing Ave station

via Ralph

 

B43 Lefferts Gardens-Empire

Prospect Park station

via Tompkins/Brooklyn Ave

 

B68 Winsdor Terrace

15th Street-Prospect Pk West

via CI Avenue

 

B68 Coney Island-Stillwell

Via CI Avenue

Via Brighton Bch

 

This is short beginning. More to follow. Replies so far please?:P

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B36 Seagate

w 37 st

via ave z, via surf

B4 Bay ridge

narrows ave

via bay ridge pkwy

B14 Spring creek

Mail fac

via Sutter

B60 Willamsburg and canarsie

via Rockaway

via Williams

B41 Bergen beach

E 71 street

via Flatbush

and for the B48 you can probably add via Classon, and via Franklin

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My biggest pet peeve is the buses that terminate in Downtown Brooklyn at Cadman Plz (B26, 38, 41, 52, & 103) only the B41 actually says CADMAN PLZ but the others say TILLARY ST when they all stop on the same block (except the 38 & 103 which stops around the coener) they all need to say CADMAN PLZ

 

Here are my others...

 

B26

RIDGEWOOD

WYCKOFF TERM

via HALSEY ST

 

B54

RIDGEWOOD

WYCKOFF TERM

via MYRTLE AV

 

B52

RIDGEWOOD

WYCKOFF TERM

via GATES AV

 

Q55

RIDGEWOOD

WYCKOFF TERM

via MYRTLE AV

 

Q58

RIDGEWOOD

WYCKOFF TERM

 

M14A

LOWER E. SIDE

GRAND ST

via AVENUE A

 

M14D

LOWER E. SIDE

COLUMBIA ST

via AVENUE D

 

B83

SPRING CREEK

GATEWAY MALL

via PENN AV

 

Q67

MIDDLE VILLAGE

FRESH POND RD

via BORDEN

via 69 ST

 

Q54

WILLIAMSBURG

BRIDGE PLZ

via METRO

 

Q54

JAMAICA

170 ST

via METRO

 

There's more but that's all that's gonna be put up here.

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Ok my ideas for terminal signs.

 

B15 "Bushwick' Woodhull Hosptial

Flushing Ave Station

Via Brookdale Hosp.

This stop is in Bushwick not Bed Stuvy.

 

 

B47 Bushwick Woodhull Hosptial

Flushing Ave station

via Ralph

 

Both stops are in Bed-Stuy, right at the northern tip of the neighborhood.

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Ok my ideas for terminal signs.

 

I like to see the (NYCT)(MTA) do is what done already i seen in Stamford CT area on their CT buses, in San Diego on their buses and elsewhere. That is add major stops or major neighborhoods/landmarks mentioned also even if it's not a terminal in the 'via' section besides the primary road that route travels on. With that said here mines in no order.

 

Not to mention adding the 'word' LOCAL on routes with both limited and local routes.

 

 

yes, Yes and YES! They do it on a few routes which have alternate routings (Ex: s51 via Ft Wadsworth, via Hyland) But it should be more common, every route should have at least one via;)

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I feel like most of the Bx routes needs to say via at least 1 street or need another street so its easy for people to figure things out:

 

Bx3 Via Sedgwick Av/ via University Av

 

Bx6 via 155/161 Sts/ via Hunts Pt Av

 

Bx7 Via Riverdale Av/ via Bway

 

Bx8 via Westchester Sq

 

Bx9 via Bway/ via Kingsbridge Rd

 

Bx10 via Bailey Av

 

Bx11 via 170 St

 

Bx13 via Ogden Av

 

Bx14 via Westchester Sq

 

Bx15 via 3rd Av/ via 125 St

 

Bx16 via Nereid Av/ via Mundy Ln? (Quite frankly the Mundy Lane part should be changed to another street because all 16s serve it now)

 

Bx17 via Crotona Av/ via Prospect Av

 

Bx18 via Macombs Rd also change the designations to Bx18 Morris Heights/Sedgwick Av and Bx18 Inwood/170 St-GC

 

Bx20 via HH Pkwy

 

BX21 via Boston Rd

 

Bx25 via Allerton Av/ via Asch Loop

 

Bx26 via Allerton Av/ via 1-2-3-4-5

 

Bx27 via Soundview Av (via Westchester Av when the service goes to Simpson)

 

Bx28 via Gun Hill/ via 1-2-3-4-5 also Bx28 Fordham Center/Fordham Rd (that one block extension is needed)

 

Bx29 via Pelham Bay STA

 

Bx30 via Boston Rd/ via 2-1-4-5

 

Bx31 via Eastchester Rd

 

Bx32 via Jerome Av/ via Morris Av

 

Bx33 via 135/138 Sts

 

Bx34 via Bainbridge Av

 

Bx35 via 167-169 Sts (I couldnt think of a better one because it runs on all 3 streets)

 

Bx36 via 174/180 Sts

 

Bx39 via White Plains Rd (I feel like that one should be a given)

 

Bx41 via W. Plains Rd/ via Webster Av

Bxm4A if they keep it needs to say Bedford Park/ Paul-205

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I disagree that every route's dest. sign should have a "via"...

I say it should include the "via", for instance, if it travels almost (or literally) the full length of a particular road [ex. the B41, B68]... if a route stays on a particular road long enough (in terms of distance, in comparison to the length of its respective route) [ex. the B9].... routes that run on uni-directional streets for a good portion of the route [ex. the B11, B38]... or, of course, if a route has two branches or w/e [ex. the Q10]...

 

I'm only talking about city routes, not suburban routes...

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far as Shortline's post:

 

When you mention "madison ave local" & "madison ave limited", that would resemble a subway train's destination signage... I don't think it's necessary...

 

two, Washington heights is the area around 168th-181st... when you're in that area, you just know you're in washington hgts... can't quite describe it, it's one of those things you just get that sense when you're venturing in the area....

 

as far as "Museum Mile" goes, there are New Yorkers that don't know what, or where the hell that is... lol... they just might think the bus is detouring when they see that on the destination sign....

 

...and your M42 dest. sign looks like something one of those double-decker tourist buses might read.

 

The B15/47 one, eh... Woodhull is far more popular an attraction in the immediate area than the subway station is....

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I feel like most of the Bx routes needs to say via at least 1 street or need another street so its easy for people to figure things out:

 

Bx16 via Nereid Av/ via Mundy Ln? (Quite frankly the Mundy Lane part should be changed to another street because all 16s serve it now)

 

Bx18 via Macombs Rd also change the designations to Bx18 Morris Heights/Sedgwick Av and Bx18 Inwood/170 St-GC

 

I like the via additions.

 

I think the Bx16 should be

VIA NEREID

VIA 233 ST

but it's tricky because there is a big gap in there.

 

Also, why would the Bx18 say Inwood if that section is Manhattan?

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Manhattan crosstowns. None of them will say "Crosstown", "East Side" or "West Side"

 

M8 EAST VILLAGE

M8 AVENUE D

 

M8 WEST VILLAGE

M8 WEST ST

 

M21 KIPS BAY

M21 BELLEVUE HOSP

M21 via HOUSTON

 

M21 WEST VILLAGE

M21 WASHINGTON ST

M21 via HOUSTON

 

M23 COOPER VILL

M23 AV C-20

 

M27 UNITED NTS

M27 via 50 ST

 

M30 MIDTOWN

M30 8 AV

 

M30 LENOX HILL

M30 YORK AV

 

M34 KIPS BAY

M34 FERRY

 

M34 JAVITS CTR

 

M42 UNITED NTS

 

M42 CIRCLE LINE

 

M50 UNITED NTS

 

M50 CIRCLE LINE

 

M57 TURTLE BAY

M57 YORK AV

 

M57 VERDI SQ

M57 BWAY-72

 

M60 MNHTN VLY

M60 BWAY-106

 

M66 LENOX HILL

M66 YORK AV

 

M66 LINCOLN TWR

M66 WEST END AV

 

M72 LENOX HILL

M72 YORK AV

 

M72 LINCOLN TWR

M72 FREEDOM PL

 

M79 YORKVILLE

M79 EAST END AV

 

M79 RIVERSIDE PK

 

M86 YORKVILLE

M86 92 ST

 

M86 UPPER W SIDE

M86 WEST END AV

 

M96 CARNEGIE HILL

M96 1 AV

 

M96 PARK W VILL

M96 WEST END AV

 

M106 E HARLEM

M106 F D R DR

 

M106 PARK W VILL

M106 WEST END AV

 

M116 E HARLEM

M116 PLEASANT AV

 

M116 MANHTN VLY

M116 BWAY-106

 

I used Hagstrom's map for the niegborhoods. Any comments questions? Next up is Manhattan north-south routes

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I like the via additions.

 

I think the Bx16 should be

VIA NEREID

VIA 233 ST

but it's tricky because there is a big gap in there.

 

Also, why would the Bx18 say Inwood if that section is Manhattan?

 

if you look at all the bx18 e/b stops they say Inwood because that's apparently the name of that section of the bx

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Manhattan north-south routes:

M1 SOUTH FERRY

via 5 AV

 

M1 COOPER SQ

via 5 AV

 

M2 WSHNGTN HTS

168 ST

via MADISON

via POWELL

 

M3 COOPER SQ

via ST NICHOLAS

via 5 AV

 

M4 FT GEORGE

193 ST

via MADISON

via BWAY

 

M5 WASHNGTN HTS

178 ST

via 6 AV

via RIVERSIDE

 

M5 GREENWCH VILL

HOUSTON ST

via RIVERSIDE

via 5 AV

 

M7 CHELSEA

14 ST

via COLUMBUS

via 7 AV

 

M11 ABINGDON SQ

via COLUMBUS

 

M11 RIVERBANK PK

via AMSTERDAM

 

M98 LIMITED

MURRAY HILL

34 ST

via LEX AV

 

M98 LIMITED

FT GEORGE

193 ST

via 3 AV

 

M100 E HARLEM

2 AV

via 125 ST

 

M101 FT GEORGE

193 ST

via 3 AV

via AMSTERDAM

 

M101 COOPER SQ

via AMSTERDAM

via LEX AV

 

M102 HARLEM

147 ST

via 3 AV

via LENOX

 

M102 COOPER SQ

via LENOX

via LEX AV

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