Art Vandelay Posted April 22, 2010 Share #251 Posted April 22, 2010 Don't get your hopes up. The R44s wont be around for too much longer. Theyll be in storage by fall, and should be off property by 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 22, 2010 Author Share #252 Posted April 22, 2010 Horaayyy!!!!!! The R44`s are here to stay!!! No... they WILL be gone (off the road and in storage) by September if not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted April 22, 2010 Share #253 Posted April 22, 2010 Horaayyy!!!!!! The R44`s are here to stay!!! Enjoy it while it lasts. But all you'll be able to do is SEE those cars, you won't ever be able to RIDE them again cuz once they're taken out of revenue service that IS the end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted April 22, 2010 Share #254 Posted April 22, 2010 Okay guys, it seems that R44s aren't even going to be reefed because the stripping offices at 207th Street are down. The barge has left as well as the crane, so nothing else can be touched. All the old equipment hat's left (32s and 42s) will be around for another 5 years at most because it doesn't seem like the MTA will be getting any federal funds to order new cars anytime soon. It's a done deal right now. It'll probably take years for the R44s to be done away with in their entirety. It looks as if they'll just be sucking up yard space in the meantime. For now everything is on hold with the R44's until more money comes along to make reefing a possibility (covering the expense associated with prepping the cars for reef), or something else entirely comes along as another option that no one has thought of yet. Till then those cars will just sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 22, 2010 Share #255 Posted April 22, 2010 Branford should get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted April 22, 2010 Share #256 Posted April 22, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. W Supporter Posted April 22, 2010 Share #257 Posted April 22, 2010 I've done some thinking... Even if asbestos have to be remove from the car..requiring money/time, in the end the MTA would be generating more money if they use the train cars for different things, such as use in a playground or turned into a resturant or icecream shop in a park...if they keep ownership of these things of course. I think potential customers, especially children, would enjoy this. If they do sell them, depending on the price, they may get back more money than what they put in to fix it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 22, 2010 Share #258 Posted April 22, 2010 I've done some thinking... Even if asbestos have to be remove from the car..requiring money/time, in the end the MTA would be generating more money if they use the train cars for different things, such as use in a playground or turned into a resturant or icecream shop in a park...if they keep ownership of these things of course. I think potential customers, especially children, would enjoy this. If they do sell them, depending on the price, they may get back more money than what they put in to fix it up. Converting cars into restaurants and other facilities has been done. But I doubt the MTA would consider that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 22, 2010 Share #259 Posted April 22, 2010 Converting cars into restaurants and other facilities has been done. But I doubt the MTA would consider that option. At least not right now, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted April 23, 2010 Share #260 Posted April 23, 2010 Hmmm so they are reefing the R44s sometime in the future when the money comes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted April 23, 2010 Share #261 Posted April 23, 2010 Hmmm so they are reefing the R44s sometime in the future when the money comes? They're gonna scrap them. They can't be reefed because of asbestos and because they don't fit on the 207 Ramp of Death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted April 23, 2010 Share #262 Posted April 23, 2010 They're gonna scrap them. They can't be reefed because of asbestos and because they don't fit on the 207 Ramp of Death. Yet again I feel compelled to say: NOTHING has been decided yet with those cars. All options are on the table in the future but none at present due to lack of funds. They may yet be scrapped, and they may yet be reefed. EITHER option requires abatement. As far as selling those cars elsewhere the Magic Mineral is a big reason why they have not been doing so. A playground? A restaurant? What happens (in TA lawyer's eyes) when Little Johnny or Suzy takes a lick of some asbestos and gets sick and mommy and daddy want to sue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 23, 2010 Share #263 Posted April 23, 2010 A little off-topic for a second: did the Arnines have asbestos in them or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 23, 2010 Share #264 Posted April 23, 2010 Is the option of selling the R44s to other places for use still possible? They did do the samething with the LIRR M1s. That's a possibility, but as SubwayGuy said, nothing's definite right now. They're being taken out of service, but how will they be removed off property is the issue. As for the M1s, I think the reason why they were shipped off was because they weren't at retirement age (they weren't 40 yet), and the MTA could have got into trouble if they were scrapped because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 23, 2010 Share #265 Posted April 23, 2010 That's a possibility What discovery prompted the recent decision concerning R44 equipment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted April 23, 2010 Share #266 Posted April 23, 2010 Do they still install asbestos in railcars now and days? Unless the R44 was the last car to use the magic mineral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 23, 2010 Share #267 Posted April 23, 2010 A little off-topic for a second: did the Arnines have asbestos in them or no? take a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 23, 2010 Share #268 Posted April 23, 2010 Do they still install asbestos in railcars now and days? Unless the R44 was the last car to use the magic mineral. Negative...anyhing built after the 1970s do not have asbestos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted April 23, 2010 Share #269 Posted April 23, 2010 take a guess. EVERYTHING had asbestos in it before they stopped using it. Asbestos paint Asbestos paper Asbestos INSULATION (in the R1/R9 ) Asbestos TILING Asbestos AUTOMOBILE BRAKE PADS Asbestos ADHESIVE And the list goes on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted April 23, 2010 Share #270 Posted April 23, 2010 Negative...anyhing built after the 1970s do not have asbestos.That means the last Rtype with asbestos would be the R46.:eek:Asbestos is good for heat insulation,so what are they using now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted April 24, 2010 Share #271 Posted April 24, 2010 They're gonna scrap them. They can't be reefed because of asbestos and because they don't fit on the 207 Ramp of Death. The R32-R42s have asbestos in them. Asbestos isn't harmful underwater either. That's why the cars can just undergo abatement prior to the final destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted April 24, 2010 Share #272 Posted April 24, 2010 The R32-R42s have asbestos in them. Asbestos isn't harmful underwater either. That's why the cars can just undergo abatement prior to the final destination. Thanks for clearing that up:tup:...I heard somewhere that the underbodies had asbestos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted April 24, 2010 Share #273 Posted April 24, 2010 That's a possibility, but as SubwayGuy said, nothing's definite right now. They're being taken out of service, but how will they be removed off property is the issue. As for the M1s, I think the reason why they were shipped off was because they weren't at retirement age (they weren't 40 yet), and the MTA could have got into trouble if they were scrapped because of that. Yeah I heard the (M2)(1)s are doing push-pull service somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 24, 2010 Share #274 Posted April 24, 2010 Yeah I heard the (M2)(1)s are doing push-pull service somewhere. I think Mexico, but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted April 24, 2010 Share #275 Posted April 24, 2010 I think Mexico, but I'm not sure. lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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