Railfaner100 Posted April 5, 2010 Share #176 Posted April 5, 2010 It would only be too late if the plant was disassembled. I'm sure the workers would not mind having their jobs for another year or two. If they are to halt production when the order is done, what keeps them from starting up again if the money is there? Is it still too late for the get the third option order of R160s right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted April 5, 2010 Share #177 Posted April 5, 2010 Is it still too late for the get the third option order of R160s right now? once again there will be NO THIRD OPTION. and once again, i will post the link: http://www.pcac.org/nyctrc/meetings-and-minutes/minutes-102009/ In response to Mr. Strauss’ question as to why they just don’t produce more R160 cars, Mr. Grill said that there was a move in the federal stimulus debate to allow non-competitive, sole source procurements but that the effort failed and this process is not typically permitted under federal law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 5, 2010 Author Share #178 Posted April 5, 2010 Is it still too late for the get the third option order of R160s right now? once again there will be NO THIRD OPTION. and once again, i will post the link: http://www.pcac.org/nyctrc/meetings-and-minutes/minutes-102009/ IF (small word, big meaning) the MTA had the money, option 3 R160s could be built. Production is still going on, but if there is no money by the time the last R160 is done, thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted April 5, 2010 Share #179 Posted April 5, 2010 It's outdated. In the terms of the R160 order they're finished making them so operations halt until something else comes. I always wondered what rail car manufacturers do when they finish an order.So basically they are jobless til the next order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfaner100 Posted April 5, 2010 Share #180 Posted April 5, 2010 When will the R179's start being built and delivered to the ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 5, 2010 Author Share #181 Posted April 5, 2010 When will the R179's start being built and delivered to the ? When ever the MTA gets money for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted April 6, 2010 Share #182 Posted April 6, 2010 When will the R179's start being built and delivered to the ? The plans to order the R179s at a MINIMUM of 2-3 years from now. Don't hold you breath on the R179s or the R188s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted April 6, 2010 Share #183 Posted April 6, 2010 I hope when that time come,That Bombardier win both contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 6, 2010 Share #184 Posted April 6, 2010 I hope when that time come,That Bombardier win both contracts. Don't get your hopes up. From what I heard, Bombardier may be exempt from future contracts as well as the R188 order because of issues with the R142s and the M7s. The R188 order is also opened to those who built the R142/As, which is Bombardier and Kawasaki, but if Bombardier can't take part, Kawasaki may take the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted April 6, 2010 Share #185 Posted April 6, 2010 Don't get your hopes up. From what I heard, Bombardier may be exempt from future contracts as well as the R188 order because of issues with the R142s and the M7s. The R188 order is also opened to those who built the R142/As, which is Bombardier and Kawasaki, but if Bombardier can't take part, Kawasaki may take the order. What about Alstom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 6, 2010 Share #186 Posted April 6, 2010 What about Alstom? They didn't build the R142/As. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted April 6, 2010 Share #187 Posted April 6, 2010 They didn't build the R142/As. But are they eligible for the R179/R188s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted April 6, 2010 Share #188 Posted April 6, 2010 For the R179s yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted April 6, 2010 Share #189 Posted April 6, 2010 For the R179s yes. Why not the R188? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 6, 2010 Share #190 Posted April 6, 2010 Why not the R188? Because they didn't build the R142/As. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBuffer Posted April 7, 2010 Share #191 Posted April 7, 2010 I hope when that time come,That Bombardier win both contracts. I would doubt it since they have split contracts of new car orders since the R-62s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfaner100 Posted April 8, 2010 Share #192 Posted April 8, 2010 How come the didn't purchase a third option order of R160s? In my opinion, i think that the 3rd option order of R160s could of helped to retire the R44's more faster, by having the Jamaica yard send more R46 to the pitkin and 207th yard for and possibly service so that way Jamaica yard could could more R160s in place of the R46 that are given up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share #193 Posted April 8, 2010 How come the didn't purchase a third option order of R160s? In my opinion, i think that the 3rd option order of R160s could of helped to retire the R44's more faster, by having the Jamaica yard send more R46 to the pitkin and 207th yard for and possibly service so that way Jamaica yard could could more R160s in place of the R46 that are given up. There is NO $$$ for anything right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted April 8, 2010 Share #194 Posted April 8, 2010 Don't get your hopes up. From what I heard, Bombardier may be exempt from future contracts as well as the R188 order because of issues with the R142s and the M7s. The R188 order is also opened to those who built the R142/As, which is Bombardier and Kawasaki, but if Bombardier can't take part, Kawasaki may take the order. I must ask.What if Kawasaki is tied up with a major order which all three of their facilities is busy,wouldnt that leave them with a last ditch effort to award Bombardier with the contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfaner100 Posted April 9, 2010 Share #195 Posted April 9, 2010 There is NO $$$ for anything right now. So when the gets more money they will be able to purchase the thrid option order of R160s, correct if i am wrong anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 9, 2010 Author Share #196 Posted April 9, 2010 So when the gets more money they will be able to purchase the thrid option order of R160s, correct if i am wrong anybody. I doubt it, if they get any money it might come after production ends then it will have to be another contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted April 9, 2010 Share #197 Posted April 9, 2010 So when the gets more money they will be able to purchase the thrid option order of R160s, correct if i am wrong anybody. Thats if they get the money.Besides they are so buried in debt,that if they get the money it would be used to pay debts.So a third option order.......No time soon.B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted April 10, 2010 Share #198 Posted April 10, 2010 How come the didn't purchase a third option order of R160s? In my opinion, i think that the 3rd option order of R160s could of helped to retire the R44's more faster, by having the Jamaica yard send more R46 to the pitkin and 207th yard for and possibly service so that way Jamaica yard could could more R160s in place of the R46 that are given up. It wouldn't mean that retirement would be any faster at all, it just means that more cars other than the R44s would be retired. As we have told you numerous times before, STOP thinking about the third option order because the way things are now, they will NOT be ordered and things aren't looking like they will change soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfaner100 Posted April 12, 2010 Share #199 Posted April 12, 2010 What is going to happen with the remaining R32s and R42s, will they also be retiring with the R44s as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 12, 2010 Share #200 Posted April 12, 2010 What is going to happen with the remaining R32s and R42s, will they also be retiring with the R44s as well? You asked this to someone already -- R32s and R42s will NOT be going anywhere for another 5 years at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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