Johnny Cocker Posted December 10, 2010 Share #1 Posted December 10, 2010 Is it because of NIMBY-ism or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted December 10, 2010 Share #2 Posted December 10, 2010 You nailed it, NIMBYs. Also, money played a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Cocker Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted December 10, 2010 damn thats a shame...... If money wasn't a factor, couldn't NYC just use eminent domain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted December 10, 2010 Share #4 Posted December 10, 2010 damn thats a shame...... If money wasn't a factor, couldn't NYC just use eminent domain? Those neighborhoods have a lot of political influence, so the legislature would defeat it. BTW, NYC has nothing to do with this because is a state energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted December 11, 2010 Share #5 Posted December 11, 2010 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 11, 2010 Share #6 Posted December 11, 2010 Ideally the PA could built another AirTrain route over the Grand Central pkwy to the Astoria Blvd station [maybe even over or under the Triboro to 125th and Park Av]. But as far as the subway goes, Ditmas is the last stop - Nimby will never allow it to go past that stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted December 11, 2010 Share #7 Posted December 11, 2010 damn thats a shame...... If money wasn't a factor, couldn't NYC just use eminent domain? Astoria has loud voices. Majority of the money from the LGA project spent on buying new MCI express buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted December 11, 2010 Share #8 Posted December 11, 2010 I always thought of the being a viable extension to LGA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova RTS 9147 Posted December 11, 2010 Share #9 Posted December 11, 2010 I always thought of the being a viable extension to LGA. In the 1990s, a plan was floated around to extend the Astoria el to LGA. The nimbys overwhelmingly opposed it and the idea died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted December 11, 2010 Share #10 Posted December 11, 2010 Ideally the PA could built another AirTrain route over the Grand Central pkwy to the Astoria Blvd station [maybe even over or under the Triboro to 125th and Park Av]. But as far as the subway goes, Ditmas is the last stop - Nimby will never allow it to go past that stop. Or even better. I felt the PANYNJ should bulit an airtrain between the Willets Point/Citifield station and LGA via the Grand Central Pwy. And it would be little or no nimby's. Plus accesss to the line or the LIRR (Pt. Washington) as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Cocker Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share #11 Posted December 12, 2010 Sheesh... NIMBY's have way too much power in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted December 12, 2010 Share #12 Posted December 12, 2010 You nailed it, NIMBYs.Also, money played a role. You can also say Peter Vallone Sr. Today you can add the lack of $$$$ available for capital projects. And as far as I'm concerned, the taxi and limo lobby is strong here. What are you trying to do, put all these poor drivers out of work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTrainExp Posted December 12, 2010 Share #13 Posted December 12, 2010 I recall Bloomberg thinking about the idea too, but it was short lived as they shot it down in about a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Car 09 Posted December 12, 2010 Share #14 Posted December 12, 2010 Sheesh... NIMBY's have way too much power in this country. Whats NIMBY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted December 12, 2010 Share #15 Posted December 12, 2010 From dictionary.com NIMBY - used to express opposition by local citizens to the locating in their neighborhood of a civic project, as a jail, garbage dump, or drug rehabilitation center, that, though needed by the larger community, is considered unsightly, dangerous, or likely to lead to decreased property values. Stands for "not in my back yard" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted December 12, 2010 Share #16 Posted December 12, 2010 "Not In My Back Yard" - basically people who oppose public or major projects like this in their areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvestmanMan Posted December 13, 2010 Share #17 Posted December 13, 2010 Because it's making it way too easy for people to travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted December 14, 2010 Share #18 Posted December 14, 2010 Wasnt there a plan some years ago that had an Airtrain line going from the to LGA (I think it was linked to Willets back then), or maybe part of the redevelopment plan for the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted December 14, 2010 Share #19 Posted December 14, 2010 I did wish the Laguardia Airport extenstion went through, but NIMBY's killed the project. The problem that they have is that the , and Astoria Elevated is elevated, and they believe that thing is a scar. Recently I've read that some people even want to see that thing get torn down. Are they stupid have they read on the Archer Avenue Subway. So there won't be any , and extension to Laguardia Airport, because of this. A better option is to have a line branch off the Flushing Line from it's terminus, and send it to Laguardia, but the distance is vast, and it would cost more then an extension from the Astoria Elevated. A better idea is to create a Laguardia Airport by digging a tunnel between Astoria-Ditmars Boulevard & Mets Willet Point with a station at Laguardia Airport, and other stations in between connecting the Astoria & the Flushing Elevated & allowing a rail connection to Laguardia Airport at both sides. PS Did you know that Laguardia Airport is the largest airport in the nation without rail transit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted December 14, 2010 Share #20 Posted December 14, 2010 . A better idea is to create a Laguardia Airport by digging a tunnel between Astoria-Ditmars Boulevard & Mets Willet Point with a station at Laguardia Airport, and other stations in between connecting the Astoria & the Flushing Elevated & allowing a rail connection to Laguardia Airport at both sides. Roadcruiser sorry to burst your bubble but playing devil's advocate? Are you aware of how angry the people on the SAS are on the lost business/major chaos to their stores and apartment homes? They already recently discussed a possible lawsuit to end the project if the and the feds don't provide more $$$ for their 'distress' and lost business? Not to mention their complaint of rats and other rodents on their property as well? With the 2nd Ave project, do you think residents say living on Ditmars Blvd be happy that for at least 5-8 years be torn up for construction? Most important their property values going down during the project. That why my idea of a Airtrain bulit along the Grand Central between Citifield-Willets Point LIRR station makes more sense and cheaper IMO with little NIMBY problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted December 15, 2010 Share #21 Posted December 15, 2010 Maybe Port Authority of NY & NJ add new free non-stop shuttle bus between LGA and Astoria to relief M60? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted December 15, 2010 Share #22 Posted December 15, 2010 NIMBY's... why do I hate them so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 15, 2010 Share #23 Posted December 15, 2010 Maybe Port Authority of NY & NJ add new free non-stop shuttle bus between LGA and Astoria to relief M60? Free? never, this is the same PA that charges $5 for the airtrain to the Howard Beach station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted December 15, 2010 Share #24 Posted December 15, 2010 I always thought the Airtrain along the GCP would work, and its a closer trip from the at Willets then from the . I even forgot about the LIRR, yes there's no direct connection to Jamaica (Port Washington branch) but its something. It would also give some use for the station during the winter (maybe some retail development), when the area is desolate save TA workers going in and out of that depot there or Corona Yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted December 15, 2010 Share #25 Posted December 15, 2010 Isn't Mets Willets Point an elevated station. Wouldn't it be best that such a line would be tunneled from the terminal of the which is Flushing Main Street, because it's underground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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