Trainmaster5 Posted March 2, 2011 Share #326 Posted March 2, 2011 Well I would only approve of the if it were 10 cars...I hate running halfway down the platform at 34 Street to just catch an ! Why not wait for the train at the middle of the platform? It's guaranteed to stop there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted March 2, 2011 Share #327 Posted March 2, 2011 Why not wait for the train at the middle of the platform? It's guaranteed to stop there. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted March 2, 2011 Share #328 Posted March 2, 2011 Today: I guess the could run to Metropolitan Av and they bring the back or call it the and that runs from 71st to Euclid. i actually love this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted March 5, 2011 Share #329 Posted March 5, 2011 I think the 70(SS) Culver Shuttle might have been a good connection between the at Ninth Avenue and the at Ditmas Avenue today. You could restore the former 13th Avenue and Fort Hamilton Parkway stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 5, 2011 Share #330 Posted March 5, 2011 Wirelessly posted via (BlackBerry8520/5.0.0.900 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100) I think the 70(SS) Culver Shuttle might have been a good connection between the at Ninth Avenue and the at Ditmas Avenue today. You could restore the former 13th Avenue and Fort Hamilton Parkway stations. It can't happen now. On the 9 Av end, its used to move garbage trains. On the Ditmas end, there's a cement mixing plant smack in the middle of the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share #331 Posted March 5, 2011 Why not just create a service that does almost the same thing as the Culver . I think you can branch the off the Culver Line at Fort Hamilton Parkway, and have it run down Fort Hamilton Parkway to serve Dyker Heights, but at the same time you would have connections to the , and at their Fort Hamilton stations. Run it all the way down to 86th Street like back in the IND Second System Plan from 1939. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkemon Posted March 5, 2011 Share #332 Posted March 5, 2011 Why not just create a service that does almost the same thing as the Culver . I think you can branch the off the Culver Line at Fort Hamilton Parkway, and have it run down Fort Hamilton Parkway to serve Dyker Heights, but at the same time you would have connections to the , and at their Fort Hamilton stations. Run it all the way down to 86th Street like back in the IND Second System Plan from 1939. Stop stealing my fantasy map ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share #333 Posted March 5, 2011 That isn't mines or yours. It belongs to the people that tried to build the IND Second System. I did steal their ideas to construct my fantasy map which is still being made, but I do have ideas that were not in the IND Second System. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkemon Posted March 5, 2011 Share #334 Posted March 5, 2011 The Second System was a bunch of bloated over zealous people who didn't really understand what they were getting themselves into, hence the IND going broke after massive construction without thinking of how to pay for it. EDIT: Sorry for this post being completely off-topic. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted March 5, 2011 Share #335 Posted March 5, 2011 The Second System was a bunch of bloated over zealous people who didn't really understand what they were getting themselves into, hence the IND going broke after massive construction without thinking of how to pay for it. EDIT: Sorry for this post being completely off-topic. lol The IND overexpanded, plain and simple. While I do applaud their grand scheme, they should've concentrated on the outerboroughs first [where areas were underserved] and then work their way into Manhattan than to just mirror other lines that already exisits. imo, the IND should've built the SAS before 6th Av since the Path line was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 5, 2011 Share #336 Posted March 5, 2011 Wirelessly posted via (BlackBerry8520/5.0.0.900 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100) It can't happen now. On the 9 Av end, its used to move garbage trains. On the Ditmas end, there's a cement mixing plant smack in the middle of the way It can happen on 9 Ave. There are 3 tracks and only 1 track (the middle one) is used for the garbage train. So the other 2 tracks can be used for the shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus Guy Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share #337 Posted March 5, 2011 It can happen on 9 Ave. There are 3 tracks and only 1 track (the middle one) is used for the garbage train. So the other 2 tracks can be used for the shuttle. He meant the ROW has been reclaimed in spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share #338 Posted March 5, 2011 Here is proof. This is the remaining Culver Shuttle ramp at Ditmas Avenue. If you look at it you would see to rebuild the line we would have to destroy part of a concrete mixing plant. This is the Ninth Avenue portal to the Culver Shuttle note that the ROW has been partially destroyed. This is where the 13th Avenue station on the Culver Shuttle ROW use to exist. Now houses exist here. You would be removing people if you want to rebuild it. Plus I don't see much demand for a rebuilding of the Culver Shuttle unless it's to please several foaming rail fans. It's best here to remove the last bit of stub at Ditmas Avenue, and to remove the tracks at the Ninth Avenue station portals to the former Culver Shuttle, and to seal up the lower level of the Ninth Avenue station at the former Culver Shuttle portals, and for the to sell the land at the approach to the former Culver Shuttle at the Ninth Avenue side to build housing which would give the some much needed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted March 5, 2011 Share #339 Posted March 5, 2011 Don't quote me on this but I believe that remaining stub of the Culver Shuttle at Ditmas wasn't removed because it is part of the support for the WHOLE structure shown in the picture. Otherwise it would have been removed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted March 5, 2011 Share #340 Posted March 5, 2011 Don't quote me on this but I believe that remaining stub of the Culver Shuttle at Ditmas wasn't removed because it is part of the support for the WHOLE structure shown in the picture. Otherwise it would have been removed already. That's correct, just like the upper level of Myrtle Av can't come down either. Every few years the TA looks into taking them down, but it can't be done with out compromising the structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 5, 2011 Share #341 Posted March 5, 2011 and to remove the tracks at the Ninth Avenue station portals to the former Culver Shuttle, and to seal up the lower level of the Ninth Avenue station at the former Culver Shuttle portals, and for the to sell the land at the approach to the former Culver Shuttle at the Ninth Avenue side to build housing which would give the some much needed money. Sure you can do this! But then the MTA will lose the garbage train. Or did you forget the garbage train uses 9th Ave lower level (or at least the middle track of the lower level)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share #342 Posted March 5, 2011 You got that wrong I am saying that we seal the portals to the former connection to the Culver Shuttle not to the Fourth Avenue/West End Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 5, 2011 Share #343 Posted March 5, 2011 The garbage train uses that portals to get in the lower level of 9th Ave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 5, 2011 Share #344 Posted March 5, 2011 *Face Palm* The Culver side of the Ninth Avenue station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 5, 2011 Share #345 Posted March 5, 2011 Then there is still the NYCTM fan trips to 9th Ave... But the middle track for the garbage train is also going in and out the portal. You can't deny that. So that will be a problem, unless you want to reroute it, but to where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 5, 2011 Share #346 Posted March 5, 2011 Plus work trains also use the lower level tracks. Work trains+garbage train+fan trips all using the portals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted March 6, 2011 Share #347 Posted March 6, 2011 That lower level sure has a hotbed of activity, its not just an unused piece of track by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovetskii52 Posted March 6, 2011 Share #348 Posted March 6, 2011 There's programming for the to go to Coney Island via Brighton. Really? How do you know?B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 6, 2011 Share #349 Posted March 6, 2011 If you look closely at the map the , and has access to the Culver tracks, and hence can use the , (G)'s track to Coney Island. It's an old one though. I can't access the newest map for some reason, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted March 6, 2011 Share #350 Posted March 6, 2011 Really? How do you know?B) There is no to C.I. Via Brighton, only a , etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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