realizm Posted January 14, 2014 Share #5301 Posted January 14, 2014 I didn't know that this was a serious issue to you. Anyhow I'm inclined to agree with your stance on invasive ads, and ads in general on transit vehicles. They're there to simply make quick buck as the annual earning don't amount to a grand figure and the end scheme of things. As for my comment on the Victoria's Secret ad, that stemmed from a convo where I said that I'd rather look at some women over a car, in reference to the Jaguar ad out now. Public transit is meant to serve the public, so public input on various issues should be taken into consideration. Right on! Yeah I mean whatever screw it, it is what it is, but those are my thoughts. Commercialized psuedo-vandalizm to me but to some its legal advertising all hail the the executive committee they are the holy prophets of transit, best way to put it. Man if I was president of the MTA..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 14, 2014 Share #5302 Posted January 14, 2014 The way i see it, the train is running perfectly fine, a long as it gets me from point A to point B, who cares how it looks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted January 14, 2014 Share #5303 Posted January 14, 2014 I mean thats how I feel about fleet types. If it was an R32, Im on it. If a R68, no probs I'm on it, wrap ads or not. Shoot if a work train rolls up and I am desperate enough to get to somewhere on time I'm on it. (never railfanned one anyway) Its silly for me to skip trains just because. I gotta get where I have to go. But yeah wrap ads suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted January 14, 2014 Share #5304 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) My view on ads is as follows: I don't mind the concept per se, because it does bring in revenue for the transit agencies, but for the love of f**k PLEASE make them bearable to look at. Too many ad wraps around here are just massive eyesores... I can think of maybe 2 in all of North America that didn't look like someone vomited all over the damn vehicle. Let's compare streetcar wraps in Toronto, and in Bratislava. The Toronto ones look like absolute p!ss, while the Bratislava ones look visually pleasing. The garish colours and the lazy looks of the Toronto advertisements are what really turn me off. And frankly, no amount of hot women can make up for the fact that a lot of these ads look like garbage, plain and simple. Then again, maybe good looking ads are a thing of the past... this hideous, HORRIBLE excuse for an ad appeared on a Bratislava car in May 2012 and was updated this year. Edited January 14, 2014 by ttcsubwayfan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted January 15, 2014 Share #5305 Posted January 15, 2014 I think these ads won't make a good turnover for the companies involved to keep them going. A few disadvantages: The ad is not always facing a target demographic due to possible fleet swaps, reroutes and general differences between parts of the city. (Jaguar ads on a subway?? that has to have such a minimal impact) The ads are not always outside so exposure is limited. Additional time out of service for painting (or stickering). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 15, 2014 Share #5306 Posted January 15, 2014 They've been working well enough to be used on the 42nd Street shuttle for years and well enough to expand onto trains on the 6 and 7 lines occasionally. I think it speaks well for its continued existence. I do see this as a beginning of a trend that sees more trains wrapped like this. On the subject of the train being out of service to be wrapped, I believe it's done when the train is out of service for maintenance anyway so it's not sitting idle for that much longer. I could be wrong though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted January 15, 2014 Share #5307 Posted January 15, 2014 I see the and the as different however, the Shuttle is in the tourist district so you can have a wide influence by getting them while their wallet is open or they might go home with the idea in their head. The is mostly outdoors and travels through a tourist vein so it has some advantages. The same could be said of the on 6th ave, but it's the 'off-season' for tourists, most people will be Snowbirding or avoiding the NE for winter. I'm not against giving it a shot, I just can't see how the companies justify buying the ads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 16, 2014 Share #5308 Posted January 16, 2014 http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=1269667 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted January 16, 2014 Share #5309 Posted January 16, 2014 I propose graffiti over the ads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted January 16, 2014 Share #5310 Posted January 16, 2014 As soon as someone said 9613 I knew those were F cars... very clever Jaguar... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 16, 2014 Share #5311 Posted January 16, 2014 I propose graffiti over the ads. The lesser of two evils. Why not? inb4bitchfest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 16, 2014 Share #5312 Posted January 16, 2014 http://www.subchat.com/readflat.asp?Id=1269853 R33 set from Floyd Bennett Field is being sent up to 207 St for scrapping. The old scrapping contract is over, so get ready to say good bye to more redbirds and old work equipment. I hope they do not make the same foolish mistake with scrapping museum exuipment (e.g R6-2 Pullman Standard #1208) I know Mysterious Friday 1986 will be on it! Kudos to Queens Surface 295 for the excellent catch! http://www.subchat.com/readflat.asp?Id=1269900 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted January 17, 2014 Share #5313 Posted January 17, 2014 Mmmm... Love those pics.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 17, 2014 Share #5314 Posted January 17, 2014 Today in a car near the Jamaica Yard Yard Leads I saw a locomotive and what appeared to be a rider car, it was a redbird painted in yellow in work service. No car numbers because I was in a car. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted January 18, 2014 Share #5315 Posted January 18, 2014 New help points are up at the 1st Avenue station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacemak3r Posted January 19, 2014 Share #5316 Posted January 19, 2014 Hi. http://youtu.be/eeb4UxguReY?t=14s "NFG" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 19, 2014 Share #5317 Posted January 19, 2014 Hi. http://youtu.be/eeb4UxguReY?t=14s "NFG" In an ironic twist you'll know who will use this video as a counter argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacemak3r Posted January 19, 2014 Share #5318 Posted January 19, 2014 The impeding truth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 19, 2014 Share #5319 Posted January 19, 2014 The impeding truth. Wait, the thread is locked if IIRC. Screw it though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted January 19, 2014 Share #5320 Posted January 19, 2014 Passed by Corona yesterday... two sets of R188s: one in the barn, one outside (and one in service). Also noticed a pair of redbirds, which surprised me. Anybody know what set those two are? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 20, 2014 Share #5321 Posted January 20, 2014 Passed by Corona yesterday... two sets of R188s: one in the barn, one outside (and one in service). Also noticed a pair of redbirds, which surprised me. Anybody know what set those two are? I would assume they're there for scrap considering the recent circumstances, but I'm not sure. I'm sure everyone is going to come and attack me now for even suggesting more Redbirds are being scrapped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted January 20, 2014 Share #5322 Posted January 20, 2014 I would assume they're there for scrap considering the recent circumstances, but I'm not sure. I'm sure everyone is going to come and attack me now for even suggesting more Redbirds are being scrapped. Scrap? That'd be 207, not Corona. They generally *leave* Corona to go to scrap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted January 20, 2014 Share #5323 Posted January 20, 2014 I would assume they're there for scrap considering the recent circumstances, but I'm not sure. I'm sure everyone is going to come and attack me now for even suggesting more Redbirds are being scrapped. f**k it, scrap them all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 20, 2014 Share #5324 Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) how did MTA put the CBTC box on the 142A to 188 ? Edited January 20, 2014 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted January 20, 2014 Share #5325 Posted January 20, 2014 f**k it, scrap them all Yeah, let's scrap the R32's and all the SMEE's while we're at it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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