lupojohn Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6151 Posted April 4, 2014 The only thing the MTA is doing is working at Hoyt Street. They advised people to take the J to Broadway Junction to pick up the A train from there. No service is lost at Aqueduct. The MTA is aware of the Wood Memorial. The out-of-towners who may not understand the NYC Transit System may get confused and give up. Does anyone really want that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfanrod Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6152 Posted April 4, 2014 they need to fix the 5 line it seems like a back up train for the 2 and 4 and the mta keeps shortening the route on weekends and nights where the most customers need it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6153 Posted April 4, 2014 The out-of-towners who may not understand the NYC Transit System may get confused and give up. Does anyone really want that? There will ALWAYS be out-of-towners who don't understand the subway and will likely run the risk of getting lost. If we start canceling work because of the inconveniences, we will never get anything done. The best thing to do is direct people around the service disruptions as much as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6154 Posted April 4, 2014 You have buses that will take you to that area from the city anyway, those red casino buses, they can take those instead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6155 Posted April 4, 2014 also if you ask your fellow passengers, conductors and police officers i am sure one of them can really direct you to aqueduct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6156 Posted April 4, 2014 There will ALWAYS be out-of-towners who don't understand the subway and will likely run the risk of getting lost. If we start canceling work because of the inconveniences, we will never get anything done. The best thing to do is direct people around the service disruptions as much as possible. Pushing it back one weekend or two hurts NO ONE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6157 Posted April 4, 2014 Pushing it back one weekend or two hurts NO ONE.Rescheduling costs money, no? The hospital my friend works for pays her even if she can't come to work because they don't need her on that day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6158 Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) @lupojohn: Except, this particular service change has been going on for the past several weeks and months (dating back to the Fulton Street FASTRACK earlier this year if I'm not mistaken) and will continue for at least the next few weeks. The idea is to get whatever work that's going on over there finished in a timely fashion and not drag it out through the entire spring. It's bad enough that the MTA lost several nights and weekends of potential work time because of inclement weather. And like I and several others have stated numerous times, they aren't shutting down the Rockaways stretch of the A-line. For those riders who have to take the train to the Aqueduct, there is still a viable alternative with the L-trains. It's not ideal, I get that, but can we please stop making this out to be more than it is? Edited April 4, 2014 by Lance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6159 Posted April 4, 2014 ^^^ Exactly. Work needs to get done. If riders are confused, they can always look at a map or ask TA personnel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6160 Posted April 4, 2014 Regarding the last two statements, some out-of-towners i've run into don't get it, no matter what. As I stated when I originally jumped into the conversation about this, to understand the importance of the Wood Memorial and how it needs to not be changed in any regards is to be a part of the racing community. For the sake of not wanting to argue any more, i'll leave it at that. Message me if you feel the need to be respond. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeesPwnMets Posted April 4, 2014 Share #6161 Posted April 4, 2014 I don't know the specifics of how the MTA determines GO dates, but I'm pretty sure it's not arbitrary. I don't think you can simply say "oh well just move the GO to weeknights or the next weekend or the previous weekend" blah blah blah because there is probably meticulous planning that goes into GOs. Changing the GO could require the to pay overtime for certain workers, take away off day for other workers, etc etc. Moving GO dates around probably requires a ton of logistics planning, rescheduling just one GO could create headaches for the MTA in terms of planning, and it could possibly be very expensive as well because some workers will be receiving overtime pay. Sometimes, alternates are not feasible and you're just going to have to continue with the original plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6162 Posted April 5, 2014 Regarding the last two statements, some out-of-towners i've run into don't get it, no matter what. As I stated when I originally jumped into the conversation about this, to understand the importance of the Wood Memorial and how it needs to not be changed in any regards is to be a part of the racing community. For the sake of not wanting to argue any more, i'll leave it at that. Message me if you feel the need to be respond. You keep bringing up this Wood Memorial like it's the be all-end all of city events. In the grand scheme of things considering all of the events and parades and what-have-yous that occur in NYC, this is relatively small potatoes. And I will once again ask this question because I can't seem to get a straight answer of anyone here: how many people are actually taking the train (specifically the A) to the Aqueduct? I get that some folks may hop on the train to get there, but it just seems like more people will either drive or take a cab there rather than deal with the meandering A trains (even on the best of days when nothing's wrong with the line). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6163 Posted April 5, 2014 The amount of people taking the to Aqueduct is very low. Only fewer people board or exit the train at the aforementioned station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6164 Posted April 5, 2014 I should've said specifically to this event, not the station in general. That's my fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6165 Posted April 5, 2014 The amount of people taking the to Aqueduct is very low. Only fewer people board or exit the train at the aforementioned station. That's to be expected with no southbound platform. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6166 Posted April 5, 2014 After seeing how close Queensboro Plaza and Queens Plaza are to each other, I can understand why some have called for a free transfer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V 9441 Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6167 Posted April 5, 2014 After seeing how close Queensboro Plaza and Queens Plaza are to each other, I can understand why some have called for a free transfer. I don't see a reason to do so, just change trains at one of the other stops instead. It seems like it would cost a lot to build, and there are many other transfer stations in the vicinity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6168 Posted April 5, 2014 I don't see a reason to do so, just change trains at one of the other stops instead. It seems like it would cost a lot to build, and there are many other transfer stations in the vicinity. I meant an OOS transfer like Lex and 63rd and Lex and 59th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cl94 Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6169 Posted April 5, 2014 I don't see a reason to do so, just change trains at one of the other stops instead. It seems like it would cost a lot to build, and there are many other transfer stations in the vicinity. I meant an OOS transfer like Lex and 63rd and Lex and 59th. Take the to Lex and hop on an or going the other way or vice versa. We're talking 5-10 minutes during the week. You'd spend more time hiking all the way up to the QBP platforms. A good 70+ vertical feet separates the IND platforms from the NB/EB IRT/BMT platform. All but 3 stations on the Astoria line are within about 1/3 mile of the QBL. The connects to the IND at 74th/Roosevelt. Going into Manhattan, the intersect each line stopping at Queens Plaza with a provided transfer point. Any transfer would have to be ADA compliant. If they're ADAifying QBP, a transfer wouldn't cost that much more, but doing it for the sole purpose of providing a transfer would be wasteful. Other places need transfers and upgrades more than there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupojohn Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6170 Posted April 5, 2014 Take the to Lex and hop on an or going the other way or vice versa. We're talking 5-10 minutes during the week. You'd spend more time hiking all the way up to the QBP platforms. A good 70+ vertical feet separates the IND platforms from the NB/EB IRT/BMT platform. All but 3 stations on the Astoria line are within about 1/3 mile of the QBL. The connects to the IND at 74th/Roosevelt. Going into Manhattan, the intersect each line stopping at Queens Plaza with a provided transfer point. Any transfer would have to be ADA compliant. If they're ADAifying QBP, a transfer wouldn't cost that much more, but doing it for the sole purpose of providing a transfer would be wasteful. Other places need transfers and upgrades more than there. And those places are? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6171 Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) And those places are? one example is the Livonia Av station in the . The is planning to connect the with the Edited April 5, 2014 by queenspapi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion V 9441 Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6172 Posted April 5, 2014 one example is the E. 180th St . The is planning to connect the with the Where is E 180 St on the ? I think you are referring to Liviona avenue station. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6173 Posted April 5, 2014 Where is E 180 St on the ? I think you are referring to Liviona avenue station. mistake fixed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6174 Posted April 5, 2014 I think you mean Livonia Av on the , since it's under the . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cl94 Posted April 5, 2014 Share #6175 Posted April 5, 2014 And those places are? Anything to connect the at Junius/Livonia, as getting between the two requires a double fare, a long trek into Manhattan, or transfers to the and Franklin . ADA upgrades to: Bronx 149th/GC Something on Concourse Something on Dyre Brooklyn 4th/9th Botanic Garden / Franklin Broadway Junction Metropolitan/Lorimer Manhattan 6th/14th F L M 1 2 3 6th/42nd B D F M 7 7th/57th 81st B C (museum station) 86th 4 5 6 (proximity to museums) Canal J N Q R Z 6 Lex/59th Queens Astoria Blvd Forest Hills Hunters Point (LIRR) Willets Point (events) Basically, every transfer point that isn't cross-platform and anything serving a major tourist attraction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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