B35 via Church Posted October 8, 2017 Share #5301 Posted October 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Q43LTD said: I think I read like half of it. They're basically combinations of 2 or more routes, SBS and LTD are emphasized. Jamaica, JFK, Nassau and Brooklyn are points of emphasis. Do those areas need anymore bus service? Apparently, yes - according to him & this poor bastard 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share #5302 Posted October 15, 2017 Should the Q1 been eliminated before routes like the Q14, 74, 75, 79 and 89? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 15, 2017 Share #5303 Posted October 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Q43LTD said: Should the Q1 been eliminated before routes like the Q14, 74, 75, 79 and 89? If nothing else, the Springfield branch should have been scrapped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share #5304 Posted October 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gotham Bus Co. said: If nothing else, the Springfield branch should have been scrapped. I suppose the Q27 and 88 can cover that portion well. I'll never understand why the Q1 has 2 lanes at 165 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 16, 2017 Share #5305 Posted October 16, 2017 On 10/15/2017 at 10:08 AM, Q43LTD said: I suppose the Q27 and 88 can cover that portion well. I'll never understand why the Q1 has 2 lanes at 165 Probably one for each branch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted October 17, 2017 Share #5306 Posted October 17, 2017 On 10/15/2017 at 9:49 AM, Q43LTD said: Should the Q1 been eliminated before routes like the Q14, 74, 75, 79 and 89? No, just streamlined to provide better service. Extending it from 165th over to Sutphin would help reduce crowding on the Q43. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share #5307 Posted October 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, NY1635 said: No, just streamlined to provide better service. Extending it from 165th over to Sutphin would help reduce crowding on the Q43. That's how I feel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1032 Posted October 17, 2017 Share #5308 Posted October 17, 2017 I have updated my post about the bus routes that i have previously mentioned. This is the updated version of each bus route that i have created and I will put the link of each bus on this post and also i have a video response for all members who responded to the post and berated the way that I write on here and i gave you a plethora of disclaimers, but you ignore my my disclaimers. 1. (Q52 SBS Jamaica LIRR STA or Downtown brooklyn Jay street via myrtle av),Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bq_STGKLj3BeLEcxzjmctqzbnyg Explanation: help ease the B54 and the Q55 buses, 2. (Q61 SBS Floral Park 257 Street or Broadway Jct Van sinderen Ave via Jamaica ave), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=10zIEJfs6ZFqdUXClhsAVrMmM5l0 Explanation: help ease the Q36,56,110 Buses. 3. (Q62 LCL/LTD St. Albans Linden blvd (or Farmers Blvd/Brinkerhoff Ave) or East NY Pitkin Ave (or Cypress Hills Sheridan Ave) via Liberty ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ewM2T1Hl_-dKoZeK3c2yExnuc_c Explanation: Easy Access to St Albans, Jamaica, Richmond Hill, Ozone Park, Cypress hills and the East New York areas. Semi restoration of the cypress Hill branch. 4. (Q68 South Jamaica 133 ave or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via Van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G7dErf0M3KhPYAhY-MFCAKxPn4g Explanation: Easier service from kew gardens briarwood and jamaica. easing the dependency on the q40 from 135av-143 st since the q40 dont loop around 140 street anymore 5. (Q68 sbs JFK airport or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uLjE6T8FQBJ_fyueoYS8gK6v18g Explanation: Same as 4, but as well easier stops including to kew gardens via jamaica av/queens blvd. 6. (Q71 local/ LTD Jamaica 165 st term or Jfk Airport N. boundary rd via 157/ long streets) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WJbY1JBuye6H33pzNKVgDfqlwVI Explanation: ease tension on the guy brewer Lines from baisley blvd/ long street to Jamaica/ 160 street as well of direct service to august martin high school as well as helping the q6 since there would be no q6ltd since q82 sbs will take the Q6 LTD place on sutphin blvd 7. (Q73 SBS Little Neck L. Neck Pky or Queens center mall via H.Harding exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WVg3xzseCL3KAOMwUrgKcoqy344 explanation: ease tension on the q88, q30. 8. (Q78 LTD Whitestone Parsons Blvd or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis, q78 Local College pt 20 ave [via 14 av]/college pt 14 av [via 20 av] or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1z2v2tj8r9jg0R2-hv4McEJoag4g explanation: ease the q76,q77. also exposing a route for the rosedale, cambria heights and college pt without multiple buses 9. (Q80 Bay Terrace 23 ave or Rosedale 147 av-225 street via springfield/bell blvds [via queensboro every other trip])Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WL2oR_G_f2qyA4H8oUKJWhs-CIs explanation: ease the tension or the q77,27 also make a second option bus to bay terrace. easier to queensboro to bay terrace without transferring to flushing or depending on the q31. 10. (Q81 local Ozone Park libery ave or Far Rockaway Seagirt blvd via Rockaway blvd, central ave, Q81sbs Woodhaven 75 St Sta or Far Rockaway Seagirt Blvd via Rockaway blvd,Burnside ave, nassau exy, central ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CvgCqHeILyuMrel_8bcQ8bO7ODQ explanation: woodhaven to far rockaway or ozone park to far rockaway service 11. (Q82 SBS Jamaica 165 St Term or Jfk Airport via sutphin/150 St) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XbEp-dYD4MY4t_KFGq26HXtxCOM explanation: replace the q6 LTD and quicker service to JFK (airtrain and Q3 alternate) 12. (Q87 St. Albans Farmers-Linden or JFK airport via Baisley blvd/150 Street weekday rush only) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GehNMkuKSratWaGgRMsi3w2W3Tc explanation: local rush service for the Q82 SBS and help St. albans and Rochdale Village 13. (Q89 Jamaica 165 St Term or Ozone Park Liberty Ave via linden blvd [via aquaduct every other trips on weekend]), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ep4xbdM2lu5o9ywsmkiWRKnSz_0 Explanation: easier subway transfer point as well as an alternative for the q112,41,109 to Jamaica 14. (Q90sbs ozone park Liberty ave or Cambria Heights 235 street via Linden bl [no aquaduct]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kDDlnbKpgJFRBLWy4lLPaz6_GoM explanation: elimation of the Q4LTD service, limited service for the Q4,89. Needed a cambria heights-ozone park branch. 15. (Q91 Fort Totten or Jamaica 165 St Term via homelawn st/utopia pky) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tW-2kP9_cO8u51-ACoj4vSbrqlQ Explanation: people wanted a fort totten/jamaica branch. 16. (Q93SBS Little Neck Glenwood street or LI City Queens Plz via Northern BL/ flushing [union st,roosevelt av, main st]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n3skql5XGSRNXVfrE9nhcAPLs14 Explanation: limted route for the q101,66,13,12 17. (Q94 LCL/SBS Jamaica LIRR Sta or Cobble Hill Columbia St (sbs to barclays ctr game day only) via atlantic av/94 av) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iRZbUw6B1mmIBOCwAbeJf6CRPXo Explanation: limited route for the q24, and an easier service to barclays ctr 18.(Q95 LCL/LTD Greenpoint West St or Flushing Main Station via Roosevelt/greenpoint aves, Q95A-LTD greenpoint west st and citi field via roosevelt/greenpoint aves,Q95B-LTD Flushing Main St Sta via Roosevelt ave [q95A/B LTD pick up to game drop off from game]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NSYZWRe703-g3zFnbKlEs5PNumM Explanation: limited/local route for the b24,Q32,48, Alternate service for or trains in case of fast track from 52nd street to Flushing Main Street 18. (Q107 Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK airport Lefferts airtrain station via T.A. Way (south road)/107 Ave/lefferts Blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LiXkftIrX-2sGdpRToHG52Zmdkk explanation: Easier route for the Q10 LTD to Lefferts blvd Airtrain station at night after 9pm 19. (Q108LCL/LTD Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK Airport via 154/155 st, 125 av, sutphin blvd, rockaway blvd) Link:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1k1eKk0QO3S67ANS_P-45OdpBGao Explanation: JFK alternate, helps ease the Q6,q82sbs 20.(Q109 Local Ozone Pk Liberty Ave [weekdays only]/ Rockaway Pk B.116 Street {weekend only} or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd [via lindenwood late nights only],Q109 LTD Rockaway Pk B.116 Street/Far Rockaway Mott Av Station or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=14bw-F_SAaXO_dvHLUJui7FLbwCw Explanation: Limited service for the Q41,11,21. Rockaway Alternate for the train in case of fast track. This is all my routes that i have updated from the last post and here is the video of how I feel about all the members and moderators which i have respect for Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNuoJD_WVXw If you got any questions or anything direct message me, or you can respond to the forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted October 18, 2017 Share #5309 Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Hey has anyone ever though of swapping the Q26 and Q27 routing in Flushing? The Q26 is only a supplementary route and having that route run on Holly and Kissena would probably be better than the Q27 due to its frequencies. The Q27 has more space on Parsons and would be less likely to bottleneck on Holly. Edited October 18, 2017 by IAlam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted October 18, 2017 Share #5310 Posted October 18, 2017 On 10/17/2017 at 1:54 AM, rick1032 said: I have updated my post about the bus routes that i have previously mentioned. This is the updated version of each bus route that i have created and I will put the link of each bus on this post and also i have a video response for all members who responded to the post and berated the way that I write on here and i gave you a plethora of disclaimers, but you ignore my my disclaimers. 1. (Q52 SBS Jamaica LIRR STA or Downtown brooklyn Jay street via myrtle av),Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bq_STGKLj3BeLEcxzjmctqzbnyg Explanation: help ease the B54 and the Q55 buses, 2. (Q61 SBS Floral Park 257 Street or Broadway Jct Van sinderen Ave via Jamaica ave), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=10zIEJfs6ZFqdUXClhsAVrMmM5l0 Explanation: help ease the Q36,56,110 Buses. 3. (Q62 LCL/LTD St. Albans Linden blvd (or Farmers Blvd/Brinkerhoff Ave) or East NY Pitkin Ave (or Cypress Hills Sheridan Ave) via Liberty ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ewM2T1Hl_-dKoZeK3c2yExnuc_c Explanation: Easy Access to St Albans, Jamaica, Richmond Hill, Ozone Park, Cypress hills and the East New York areas. Semi restoration of the cypress Hill branch. 4. (Q68 South Jamaica 133 ave or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via Van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G7dErf0M3KhPYAhY-MFCAKxPn4g Explanation: Easier service from kew gardens briarwood and jamaica. easing the dependency on the q40 from 135av-143 st since the q40 dont loop around 140 street anymore 5. (Q68 sbs JFK airport or Kew Gardens Union Tpke Sta via van wyck exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uLjE6T8FQBJ_fyueoYS8gK6v18g Explanation: Same as 4, but as well easier stops including to kew gardens via jamaica av/queens blvd. 6. (Q71 local/ LTD Jamaica 165 st term or Jfk Airport N. boundary rd via 157/ long streets) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WJbY1JBuye6H33pzNKVgDfqlwVI Explanation: ease tension on the guy brewer Lines from baisley blvd/ long street to Jamaica/ 160 street as well of direct service to august martin high school as well as helping the q6 since there would be no q6ltd since q82 sbs will take the Q6 LTD place on sutphin blvd 7. (Q73 SBS Little Neck L. Neck Pky or Queens center mall via H.Harding exy) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WVg3xzseCL3KAOMwUrgKcoqy344 explanation: ease tension on the q88, q30. 8. (Q78 LTD Whitestone Parsons Blvd or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis, q78 Local College pt 20 ave [via 14 av]/college pt 14 av [via 20 av] or Rosedale 148 ave via F. Lewis) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1z2v2tj8r9jg0R2-hv4McEJoag4g explanation: ease the q76,q77. also exposing a route for the rosedale, cambria heights and college pt without multiple buses 9. (Q80 Bay Terrace 23 ave or Rosedale 147 av-225 street via springfield/bell blvds [via queensboro every other trip])Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WL2oR_G_f2qyA4H8oUKJWhs-CIs explanation: ease the tension or the q77,27 also make a second option bus to bay terrace. easier to queensboro to bay terrace without transferring to flushing or depending on the q31. 10. (Q81 local Ozone Park libery ave or Far Rockaway Seagirt blvd via Rockaway blvd, central ave, Q81sbs Woodhaven 75 St Sta or Far Rockaway Seagirt Blvd via Rockaway blvd,Burnside ave, nassau exy, central ave) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1CvgCqHeILyuMrel_8bcQ8bO7ODQ explanation: woodhaven to far rockaway or ozone park to far rockaway service 11. (Q82 SBS Jamaica 165 St Term or Jfk Airport via sutphin/150 St) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XbEp-dYD4MY4t_KFGq26HXtxCOM explanation: replace the q6 LTD and quicker service to JFK (airtrain and Q3 alternate) 12. (Q87 St. Albans Farmers-Linden or JFK airport via Baisley blvd/150 Street weekday rush only) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GehNMkuKSratWaGgRMsi3w2W3Tc explanation: local rush service for the Q82 SBS and help St. albans and Rochdale Village 13. (Q89 Jamaica 165 St Term or Ozone Park Liberty Ave via linden blvd [via aquaduct every other trips on weekend]), Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ep4xbdM2lu5o9ywsmkiWRKnSz_0 Explanation: easier subway transfer point as well as an alternative for the q112,41,109 to Jamaica 14. (Q90sbs ozone park Liberty ave or Cambria Heights 235 street via Linden bl [no aquaduct]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1kDDlnbKpgJFRBLWy4lLPaz6_GoM explanation: elimation of the Q4LTD service, limited service for the Q4,89. Needed a cambria heights-ozone park branch. 15. (Q91 Fort Totten or Jamaica 165 St Term via homelawn st/utopia pky) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tW-2kP9_cO8u51-ACoj4vSbrqlQ Explanation: people wanted a fort totten/jamaica branch. 16. (Q93SBS Little Neck Glenwood street or LI City Queens Plz via Northern BL/ flushing [union st,roosevelt av, main st]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n3skql5XGSRNXVfrE9nhcAPLs14 Explanation: limted route for the q101,66,13,12 17. (Q94 LCL/SBS Jamaica LIRR Sta or Cobble Hill Columbia St (sbs to barclays ctr game day only) via atlantic av/94 av) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iRZbUw6B1mmIBOCwAbeJf6CRPXo Explanation: limited route for the q24, and an easier service to barclays ctr 18.(Q95 LCL/LTD Greenpoint West St or Flushing Main Station via Roosevelt/greenpoint aves, Q95A-LTD greenpoint west st and citi field via roosevelt/greenpoint aves,Q95B-LTD Flushing Main St Sta via Roosevelt ave [q95A/B LTD pick up to game drop off from game]) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NSYZWRe703-g3zFnbKlEs5PNumM Explanation: limited/local route for the b24,Q32,48, Alternate service for or trains in case of fast track from 52nd street to Flushing Main Street 18. (Q107 Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK airport Lefferts airtrain station via T.A. Way (south road)/107 Ave/lefferts Blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LiXkftIrX-2sGdpRToHG52Zmdkk explanation: Easier route for the Q10 LTD to Lefferts blvd Airtrain station at night after 9pm 19. (Q108LCL/LTD Jamaica Hillsde-153 street or JFK Airport via 154/155 st, 125 av, sutphin blvd, rockaway blvd) Link:https://drive.google.com/open?id=1k1eKk0QO3S67ANS_P-45OdpBGao Explanation: JFK alternate, helps ease the Q6,q82sbs 20.(Q109 Local Ozone Pk Liberty Ave [weekdays only]/ Rockaway Pk B.116 Street {weekend only} or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd [via lindenwood late nights only],Q109 LTD Rockaway Pk B.116 Street/Far Rockaway Mott Av Station or Jamaica Hillside-153 via 109 av/cross bay blvd) Link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=14bw-F_SAaXO_dvHLUJui7FLbwCw Explanation: Limited service for the Q41,11,21. Rockaway Alternate for the train in case of fast track. This is all my routes that i have updated from the last post and here is the video of how I feel about all the members and moderators which i have respect for Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNuoJD_WVXw If you got any questions or anything direct message me, or you can respond to the forum. 1, 2,7, 18, 20) I was confused about the routing for a second, because of the "or". I believe you mean "to". Anyways, I think that the Q55 needs more buses, potentially a short-turn between Woodhaven Boulevard and Glendale. As far as the B54, not too familiar with ridership patterns, but the issues I believe can be rectified with less bunching. That bus route bunches like there's no tomorrow. Same thing with the Q36, Q56, and Q110. 4 & 5) route which uses the Van-Wyck. Yikes! IDK how I feel about that. I don't think many would also ditch the other buses to Jamaica, in order to ride a potentially slower route and not have a seat. 8) The Q76 and Q77 probably only need help during school days amd school hours. Other times, buses are generally SRO at most. I don't see much of anyone riding a Francis Lewis Boulevard through service either. I'll get to the others eventually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78 via Stew Leonards Posted October 19, 2017 Share #5311 Posted October 19, 2017 once and for all, let's implement a new QM9 express route, as a Wall St variant of the QM2. Maybe even add a QM19 for the QM20 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1032 Posted October 19, 2017 Share #5312 Posted October 19, 2017 13 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: 1, 2,7, 18, 20) I was confused about the routing for a second, because of the "or". I believe you mean "to". Anyways, I think that the Q55 needs more buses, potentially a short-turn between Woodhaven Boulevard and Glendale. As far as the B54, not too familiar with ridership patterns, but the issues I believe can be rectified with less bunching. That bus route bunches like there's no tomorrow. Same thing with the Q36, Q56, and Q110. 4 & 5) route which uses the Van-Wyck. Yikes! IDK how I feel about that. I don't think many would also ditch the other buses to Jamaica, in order to ride a potentially slower route and not have a seat. 8) The Q76 and Q77 probably only need help during school days amd school hours. Other times, buses are generally SRO at most. I don't see much of anyone riding a Francis Lewis Boulevard through service either. I'll get to the others eventually. For 4/5 that why i made a zoom up for the Q68 local and the SBS version for Van Wyck Exy. Some people think that the SBS version is like the Q10A but the only difference between the 10a and the 68sbs is bidirectional and it would use the service road until Rockaway blvd then it would merge in the expwy. Unlike the 10A merge in the expwy after it turns from Queens Blvd and its one direction and its for rush hours only. I have understand your point of the van wyck being slow but when it gets to Jamaica ave. the 68 local and sbs that is going to kew gardens will make a right turn from van wyck to jamaica avenue and then Queens blvd to kew gardens. Because rush the van wyck is messed up between jamaica av and liberty ave, especially northbound to whitestone bridge regardless if it's on the service road or the expwy itself. In other words the 68 local will loop around from 133rd ave and go to kew gardens. in contrast to then 68sbs will go to jfk airport For 8 a lot of people that lives in Laurelton and rosedale wants easier access to hollis, and other places that is on F. Lewis Blvd. without looping to Jamaica Center or Jamaica terminal for the 76 or 77. and it would be the only bus that would be a direct connection to the 111 without using the 85 to rosedale or using the 77 to 145rd and walk down to 147 ave on the new springfield blvd. instead of the woody springfield lane which became springfield blvd after 222 or 220th street (i'm not too sure) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted October 19, 2017 Share #5313 Posted October 19, 2017 7 hours ago, IAlam said: Hey has anyone ever though of swapping the Q26 and Q27 routing in Flushing? It's been brought up a couple times on here in the past, yes.... 7 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: 1] Anyways, I think that the Q55 needs more buses, potentially a short-turn between Woodhaven Boulevard and Glendale. 2] As far as the B54, not too familiar with ridership patterns, but the issues I believe can be rectified with less bunching. That bus route bunches like there's no tomorrow. Same thing with the Q36, Q56, and Q110 3] The Q76 and Q77 probably only need help during school days and school hours.... 1] I wouldn't go crazy giving that route more service; most of that route's issues are centered around commercial Myrtle av (Ridgewood) in conjunction with how damn narrow Myrtle av is (on top of it) & the JRP.... I'm usually an advocate for short turns, but I don't see what they're going to solve for the Q55 in-particular.... I'd say every trip should be running the full route. About how much service would you go about adding to it? 2] The B54 is one of these routes where the ridership is well spread out per stop.... But one of the major issues w/ the route is the double parking along Myrtle w/i Clinton Hill.... Compound that with the fact that east of Broadway, it runs under an el (which does not help matters; can't think of a single route off-top that runs rather smoothly under an el).... Those things basically contribute to the consistent bunching & slow crawling w/ the B54... The thing I find bothersome w/ the Q36 isn't any bunching, it's that buses seem to come at random (don't know the reason for it).... The Q110? The notorious bunching on that route stems from simply getting in & out of Jamaica proper (Jamaica Center area; obvious reasons) & crawling along Jamaica av (well period, but especially) after it picks up the masses within Jamaica proper.... Don't get me started with the Q56; the route really only hauls ass during overnight hours... Again, one of these routes that runs under an el & things do not quell at all after you hit the 130's - as it then has to contend w/ traffic coming on/off the Van Wyck... Then, the rest of the shitstorm that goes on w/i Jamaica proper.... 3] I don't think neither of those routes need help; not the help that a Francis Lewis through route would solve anyway.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted October 19, 2017 Share #5314 Posted October 19, 2017 Queens, especially South East part of the county has too much bus lines. Service needs to be streamlined in a way that doesn't clog the streets of Jamaica, Flushing, QCM, and LIC with lots of buses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted October 19, 2017 Share #5315 Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/18/2017 at 12:30 PM, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Anyways, I think that the Q55 needs more buses, potentially a short-turn between Woodhaven Boulevard and Glendale. You mean Ridgewood? (Woodhaven Blvd is basically in Glendale) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 19, 2017 Share #5316 Posted October 19, 2017 8 hours ago, NY1635 said: Queens, especially South East part of the county has too much bus lines. Service needs to be streamlined in a way that doesn't clog the streets of Jamaica, Flushing, QCM, and LIC with lots of buses. You seem to be confused between too many routes and too many buses. Do you have a specific proposal for "streamlining" in a way that still serves everybody who needs to ride? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1032 Posted October 20, 2017 Share #5317 Posted October 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said: You seem to be confused between too many routes and too many buses. Do you have a specific proposal for "streamlining" in a way that still serves everybody who needs to ride? not really. watch my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNuoJD_WVXw. even though its a lengthy video. it explains a reason why these buses are need and how each section of queens are changing. And if we add these buses, we have to change the run time of the current buses to accommodate these proposal buses. That's why we put these proposal buses in testing first, then we scrap them or modify them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted October 20, 2017 Share #5318 Posted October 20, 2017 13 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said: You seem to be confused between too many routes and too many buses. Do you have a specific proposal for "streamlining" in a way that still serves everybody who needs to ride? The routes are definitely needed, but said routes don't need that many buses. Like the Q17 is needed more between Fresh Meadows and Flushing, less service is needed down 188th Street to Jamaica because those Archer trips usually carry air by they time they approach Hillside. I think more short turns are needed when needed, but it's very tedious to use precision when cutting routes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted October 20, 2017 Share #5319 Posted October 20, 2017 18 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said: Do you have a specific proposal for "streamlining" in a way that still serves everybody who needs to ride? Perhaps altering side parking rules on certain roadways and enabling TSP on the Queens Blvd service road? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted October 20, 2017 Share #5320 Posted October 20, 2017 @Vtrain brought up extending the to LaGuardia Airport. Since that's within Queens, I felt the conversation should be here and not a separate thread. I think the would be a better candidate as it's geographically closer (Throgs Neck vs The Hub) and it is an east-west route, while the is a north-south route along Webster that doesn't terminate near a bridge that connects to Queens namely the Throgs Neck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted October 20, 2017 Share #5321 Posted October 20, 2017 (edited) They should really consider a rush hour bus lane on Northern Blvd in NE Queens. Buses in the morning are always late due to traffic from 149 all the way to the service road. In the afternoon and evening, traffic is heavy in the opposite direction from 150 to the LIRR stop. I'm pretty sure this traffic is what messes up the buses and throws off service. The intersection at 39 and Union should also be reworked, because traffic plagues that place almost past 12PM and it also delays the hell out of the buses. Edited October 20, 2017 by R188 7857 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted October 21, 2017 Share #5322 Posted October 21, 2017 5 hours ago, MassTransitHonchkrow said: @Vtrain brought up extending the to LaGuardia Airport. Since that's within Queens, I felt the conversation should be here and not a separate thread. I think the would be a better candidate as it's geographically closer (Throgs Neck vs The Hub) and it is an east-west route, while the is a north-south route along Webster that doesn't terminate near a bridge that connects to Queens namely the Throgs Neck. Are you seriously suggesting that the Bx42, a long, winding, infrequent, unreliable branch to a long, unreliable trunk (which spans the entire Bronx from east to west), be rerouted further down into Queens, then have to cross half of Queens (and on almost entirely congested roads) , and on top of that suffer within LGA, and then have to loop outside and back to the Bronx? Do you know how long one round-trip would be? Also, terminating near a bridge means nothing if you cannot even access the Bridge. The Bx42 would have to backtrack to East Tremont and the Cross Bronx to access the Whitestone. The Bx41 SBS, with a slight route change, can actually access the RFK bridge (via 3 Avenue, Westchester Avenue, Brook Avenue, East 134 Street towards the Bridge; Via I-278, I-87, Willis Avenue, 3 Avenue, East 152 Street from the Bridge), although I'm not saying I'm advocating for that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted October 21, 2017 Share #5323 Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, R188 7857 said: They should really consider a rush hour bus lane on Northern Blvd in NE Queens. Buses in the morning are always late due to traffic from 149 all the way to the service road. In the afternoon and evening, traffic is heavy in the opposite direction from 150 to the LIRR stop. I'm pretty sure this traffic is what messes up the buses and throws off service. The intersection at 39 and Union should also be reworked, because traffic plagues that place almost past 12PM and it also delays the hell out of the buses. Only the n20G would benefit from the bus lane on Northern because it runs closed door in Queens and would make getting to the county line much easier. The Q12 would still be a slowpoke with the bus lanes. Edited October 21, 2017 by NY1635 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted October 21, 2017 Share #5324 Posted October 21, 2017 On 10/19/2017 at 4:20 AM, B35 via Church said: It's been brought up a couple times on here in the past, yes.... 1] I wouldn't go crazy giving that route more service; most of that route's issues are centered around commercial Myrtle av (Ridgewood) in conjunction with how damn narrow Myrtle av is (on top of it) & the JRP.... I'm usually an advocate for short turns, but I don't see what they're going to solve for the Q55 in-particular.... I'd say every trip should be running the full route. About how much service would you go about adding to it? Probably about 2 buses an hour at most during the rush hour, and maybe 1 bus an hour extra during the early evening hours. Given how close Woodhaven is to the , yeah, all buses may as well go to Jamaica Avenue. On 10/19/2017 at 2:10 PM, checkmatechamp13 said: You mean Ridgewood? (Woodhaven Blvd is basically in Glendale) Yes, that was my mistake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassTransitHonchkrow Posted October 21, 2017 Share #5325 Posted October 21, 2017 15 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Are you seriously suggesting that the Bx42, a long, winding, infrequent, unreliable branch to a long, unreliable trunk (which spans the entire Bronx from east to west), be rerouted further down into Queens, then have to cross half of Queens (and on almost entirely congested roads) , and on top of that suffer within LGA, and then have to loop outside and back to the Bronx? Do you know how long one round-trip would be? Also, terminating near a bridge means nothing if you cannot even access the Bridge. The Bx42 would have to backtrack to East Tremont and the Cross Bronx to access the Whitestone. The Bx41 SBS, with a slight route change, can actually access the RFK bridge (via 3 Avenue, Westchester Avenue, Brook Avenue, East 134 Street towards the Bridge; Via I-278, I-87, Willis Avenue, 3 Avenue, East 152 Street from the Bridge), although I'm not saying I'm advocating for that. You have an excellent point. If I may ask, I believe the shares a similar path. Maybe it could cover local stops where it coincides with the and the latter make limited stops? I'm certainly aware of the long headway and would be supportive of a pit stop approach where operators waiting along the way, switching out after ten miles. No local stops would be made in Queens except for LGA. I would also suggest altering the side parking rules along Tremont Avenue to accommodate higher speeds for buses and commerical traffic. It may seem long, but don't forget that the city doesn't make the road hospitable to buses and that bus agencies elsewhere would finish the route sooner even if it was longer. The key to a functional bus route is more than length and frequency. It's also dependent on the cooperation between entities which currently does not exist. But you're probably right. This would not work under current circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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