Unplanned Subway Service Changes

[RR503]

2 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

Personally I think the only platforms that should be lengthened are the ones served by the  (if possible).

I mean sure, but what happens when something goes wrong on 6th or Myrtle? Then we have trains stranded going places where they physically can’t platform. That’s why if you ever did that, you’d at least have to lengthen as far as Bway Jct and Chambers — at which point it seems sensical to go the whole way. 

In the interim, if we really need more than 480’ trains there, we could probably run 9 car sets without platform mods — remember we used to run 8 cars of 67’ standards on those lines. The only issues then would (possibly) be with ENY yard track lengths. 

[Wallyhorse]

8 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

That's what I last heard about the relay tracks. Your solution was the only viable option that came to mind.  IIRC much of the unused trackage along the Nassau line is/was being removed anyhow with only the basics left to maintain.  BTW Wallyhorse your proposal for 600 foot platforms along the Eastern BMT could only be viable if the structure was torn down and the current services were placed underground in Brooklyn and Queens IMO. They're not running wooden el cars or lightweight equipment these days.  Reinforcing the structures and maintenance would be extremely costly. Carry on. 

First up would be the ones on the Nassau portion up to an including Essex Street.  Many of them likely only have to be lengthened 65 feet or so because it's been noted before that those platforms used to serve eight-car BMT Standard trains that were 534 feet, so those likely can be lengthened to handle 600 foot trains.

The rest would be much, much later.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Southbound trains are running local from 59 St-Columbus Circle to W 4 St-Washington Sq.

Southbound and trains are stopping along the line from W 4 St-Washington Sq to Jay St-MetroTech.

These service changes are because a train's brakes were automatically activated at Fulton St.

Expect delays in , , and train service.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

This may evolve. Keep in mind Manhattan-bound  trains are also running local

Delays  Posted: 09/04/2018 10:18PM 

trains are running with delays in both directions because of switch problems at Forest Hills-71 Av. 

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

This may or may not evolve. I'm guessing there's no way to adequate reroute trains, so they'll have to just hold trains if it's necessary. However, Subway Time is reporting 'Delayed' readings on the Northbound board. So, we might be dealing with something a little more complex than what's below:

Delays  Posted: 09/04/2018 11:34PM 

Southbound and trains are running with delays because a train's brakes are automatically activated at Jay St-MetroTech Ctr. 

Edited September 5, 2018 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[Abba]

It’s still going on. They are still blaming the issue on “train with brakes activated”.an hour later I feel they should say why brakes were activated for an hour plus 😊.

[RR503]

2 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

This may or may not evolve. I'm guessing there's no way to adequate reroute trains, so they'll have to just hold trains if it's necessary. However, Subway Time is reporting 'Delayed' readings on the Northbound board. So, we might be dealing with something a little more complex than what's below:

Delays  Posted: 09/04/2018 11:34PM 

 Southbound and trains are running with delays because a train's brakes are automatically activated at Jay St-MetroTech Ctr. 

I got caught in this one. They suspended  service between Manhattan and Brooklyn, so in my efforts to get from Manhattan to Culver, I ended up having to come via Williamsburg (including a nice long session sitting on the Metro Ave.  platform). Good times, folks...

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Edit: this is what they have now (~1:35)

There is no  and train service in both directions between Manhattan and Brooklyn. 

Northbound  trains end at Broadway Junction.

Southbound  trains end at 59 St-Columbus Circle.

Northbound  trains end at Jay St-MetroTech.

Southbound trains end at Canal St. 

As an alternative, from Canal St customers can take the train for continue service to/from Brooklyn arriving on the  platform. [bolding is mine]

These service changes are because a train's brakes were automatically activated at Jay St-MetroTech.

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Pray, MTA, how does one transfer from the  to the  at Canal? 

Edited September 5, 2018 by RR503

[Via Garibaldi 8]

4 hours ago, RR503 said:

I got caught in this one. They suspended  service between Manhattan and Brooklyn, so in my efforts to get from Manhattan to Culver, I ended up having to come via Williamsburg (including a nice long session sitting on the Metro Ave.  platform). Good times, folks...

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Edit: this is what they have now (~1:35)

There is no  and train service in both directions between Manhattan and Brooklyn. 

Northbound  trains end at Broadway Junction.

Southbound  trains end at 59 St-Columbus Circle.

Northbound  trains end at Jay St-MetroTech.

Southbound trains end at Canal St. 

As an alternative, from Canal St customers can take the train for continue service to/from Brooklyn arriving on the  platform. [bolding is mine]

These service changes are because a train's brakes were automatically activated at Jay St-MetroTech.

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Pray, MTA, how does one transfer from the  to the  at Canal? 

I wouldn't touch the subway in this weather. Must be walking in the pits of hell in this heat and humidity. I saw so many people wiping their faces yesterday. I was only it for 5 minutes and I was starting to sweat. By then the express bus came.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

7 hours ago, RR503 said:

I got caught in this one. They suspended  service between Manhattan and Brooklyn, so in my efforts to get from Manhattan to Culver, I ended up having to come via Williamsburg (including a nice long session sitting on the Metro Ave.  platform). Good times, folks...

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Edit: this is what they have now (~1:35)

There is no  and train service in both directions between Manhattan and Brooklyn. 

Northbound  trains end at Broadway Junction.

Southbound  trains end at 59 St-Columbus Circle.

Northbound  trains end at Jay St-MetroTech.

Southbound trains end at Canal St. 

As an alternative, from Canal St customers can take the train for continue service to/from Brooklyn arriving on the  platform. [bolding is mine]

These service changes are because a train's brakes were automatically activated at Jay St-MetroTech.

_______________
 

Pray, MTA, how does one transfer from the  to the  at Canal? 

What I would have done is, instead of that nonsense (which suspended some Fulton service rather unecessarily) would have been to route the to Court Square, so at least people have transfers to the  and into Manhattan. The should have terminated at Jay Street, so that people can transfer to the for continuing service to/from Manhattan.

Who knows though, maybe they did reroute some trains via Crosstown.

 

Edited September 5, 2018 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Service Change

Northbound trains are running express from Canal St to 59 St-Columbus Circle.

Northbound trains are running express from Canal St to 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal.

These service changes are because a train's brakes were automatically activated at W 4 St-Washington Sq.

Expect delays in , and train service.

For service to bypassed stations, transfer to a southbound or train at W 4 St-Washington Sq, 34 St-Penn Station or 59 St-Columbus Circle.

 

Delays

Southbound and trains are running with delays because of signal problems at W 4 St-Washington Sq.

Posted: 9/5/18 4:01 PM

 

Based on Subway Time:

and trains are running on the to Coney Island.

Edited September 5, 2018 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Service Change

Northbound trains are running express from Canal St to 59 St-Columbus Circle.

Northbound trains are running express from Canal St to 42 St-Port Authority Bus Terminal.

These service changes are because a train's brakes were automatically activated at W 4 St-Washington Sq.

Expect delays in , and train service.

For service to bypassed stations, transfer to a southbound or train at W 4 St-Washington Sq, 34 St-Penn Station or 59 St-Columbus Circle.

 

and trains are running on the to Coney Island.

[CenSin]

2 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

and trains are running on the to Coney Island.

I saw a pull into Coney Island at 6:00. With the running local, I hope they took some common sense measures and ran the 6 Avenue expresses express along Culver as well. Knowing the MTA, they probably also cut the short at Kings Highway and ran it light to the yard, screwing over Brighton customers who could have transferred to the at Coney Island.

[Abba]

What does the average rider think when they see “ a trains brakes were activated” ? I would think “the MTA really needs to fix those trains!” They should write “emergency brakes” that’s a little better. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Abba

[Jsunflyguy]

27 minutes ago, Abba said:

What does the average rider think when they see “ a trains brakes were activated” ? I would think “the MTA really needs to fix those trains!” They should write “emergency brakes” that’s a little better. 

Bringing in my Aviation perspective the public doesn't digest the word "Emergency" very well and considering the relative frequency of the occurrence (some events which cannot be prevented by the MTA). I can just hear it now "you know MTA, if you have an emergency everyday maybe you're the problem". It's a PR door best left closed in my opinion.

[Abba]

But it’s the truth they are the emergency brakes . You might be right though . Some people might think “what ? 10 emergencies a day”? The reality is its very little . They run 8000 trips i believe 

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Day two of the West 4 Street Signal Problems:

Service Change  Posted: 09/06/2018 11:40AM 
 

Some southbound and trains are stopping along the line from 59 St-Columbus Circle to Jay St-MetroTech and then on the line to Coney Island-Stillwell Av because of signal problems at W 4 St-Washington Sq.

Expect delays in , and train service.

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There have been and delays from the early morning, but now it has evolved:

Delays  Posted: 09/06/2018 12:33PM 

and trains are delayed while we perform an urgent switch replacement on the line at Harlem-148 St. 

Service Change  Posted: 09/06/2018 11:35AM 
trains are running on the line between 72 St and 137 St-City College while we perform an urgent switch replacement at Harlem-148 St.

There is no train service north of 72 St.

To get to Harlem-148 St, take the to 135 St, then transfer to a local bus (M2, M7 or M102): http://bustime.mta.info/

Edited September 6, 2018 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[Italianstallion]

1 hour ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

trains are running on the line between 72 St and 137 St-City College while we perform an urgent switch replacement at Harlem-148 St.

There is no train service north of 72 St.

 

Huh? There is 3 train service to 96th and north to 137th.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

15 minutes ago, Italianstallion said:

Huh? There is 3 train service to 96th and north to 137th.

It's considered no  service because it's running on the  line.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Day two, part two! Will it evolve, stay tuned to find out...

 

Delays

Southbound and trains are running with delays because of signal problems at W 4 St-Washington Sq.

Posted: 9/6/18 5:54 PM

Edited September 6, 2018 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[RR503]

19 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Day two, part two! Will it evolve, stay tuned to find out...

 

Delays

Southbound and trains are running with delays because of signal problems at W 4 St-Washington Sq.

Posted: 9/6/18 5:54 PM

Something doth tell me that this new interlocking system is troubled...

First it was Herald (Hellwald?) Square’s endless meltdowns, and now this. Add into that the rush hour GO posted over in the PSC thread, and one is left with an unbelievably dark picture of our attempts at ‘modernization.’ Hope this clears... 

Edited September 6, 2018 by RR503

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

5 minutes ago, RR503 said:

Something doth tell me that this new interlocking system is troubled...

First it was Herald (Hellwald?) Square’s endless meltdowns, and now this. Add into that the rush hour GO posted over in the PSC thread, and one is left with an unbelievably dark picture of our attempts at ‘modernization.’ Hope this clears... 

If they don't properly fix this, it will fail pretty badly, like the Bergen Street one last March. 

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Well, looks like the West 4 Street problem went away for now, but here's another one:

 

Service Change  Posted: 09/06/2018  8:03PM 
 

Northbound trains are stopping along the   line from 57 St-7 Av and end at 96 St.

and trains are running with delays in both directions.

These service changes are because of switch problems at Astoria-Ditmars Blvd.

Expect delays in ,  , and train service.

Edited September 7, 2018 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[kosciusko]

 

Jesus

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Service Change  Posted: 09/07/2018  5:22PM 

Southbound trains are running express from Parkchester to Hunts Point Av and northbound trains are running local from Hunts Point Av to Parkchester because of a passenger in need of medical assistance at Parkchester.  

[Lance]

17 hours ago, kosciusko said:

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Jesus

At least they're acknowledging the fact that this is ridiculous.