Quill Depot Posted August 10, 2012 Share #26 Posted August 10, 2012 On regular weekends they often have the go to Euclid. I honestly don't know why it's now going to Lefferts. You hardcore railfans can now listen to the following voice: "This is a Lefferts Blvd bound train via the Lefferts Blvd . The next stop is 104th Street." Not usually, On weekends trains may run via the to Brooklyn or the via the . I wonder if the will go to Coney Island. "Coney-island bound train, next stop West 8th Street." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted August 10, 2012 Share #27 Posted August 10, 2012 Why wouldn't there be a program? They have the to the Rockaways and Lefferts along with the to Euclid / Rockaways and lefferts , so why wouldn't they have an program. I just don't know if they have one going to lefferts via Fulton local. This has never been done before, so is a sudden afterthought, and it takes them time to add them in; at least on the 46's (which is what we're talking about), which are only updated every few years. The to Euclid was only not too long ago added. Both are way out of the way for normal diversions. Like they codes will have the (F0 along with the and even the swap routes heading toward Coney Island (including intermediate terminals along the way), and uptown IND lines swap routes, Astoria/Queens Blvd swaps (and only more recently were uptown/Queens swaps added), and of course, trunk line swaps; because these are all close to the normal routes. So far out stuff like Bklyn("South")/Fulton swaps were never thought of. A few that were once proposed, like the Q to 207th, and its redesignation as an A to Brighton got on there as well. But 6th Ave. lines via Fulton were never proposed, and until recent years not even in G.O.s, so they weren't thought of. Not sure what the to the Rockaways was about. That wasn't on the R46 list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted August 10, 2012 Share #28 Posted August 10, 2012 They should really do this during the day. Because I would totally fan that. A to Far Rockaway: that is sick. Anyways back to topic , I can understand this change, I'm just bummed out that the GO is late nights. They should do this during the day but that would be the same argument as a to Lefferts. Fulton is pretty crazy and has evolved though, The , , , , , , and currently either go through the Fulton Street Line or used to go through the Fulton Street Line. Should be called the foam street line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted August 10, 2012 Share #29 Posted August 10, 2012 This can be cancelled out by adding more service let do lefferts at night replacing local service while extends to CI as for day let Select trains go to lefferts off peak only every 20 mins with to CI and rest of trains still serving CI. This adds more purpose to the . If they are doing work on the viaduct again, then the can't get to Coney Island. The only went to Coney Island those times cuz they were working on the platform at Jay St and replacing signals between Jay & Bergen Sts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted August 10, 2012 Share #30 Posted August 10, 2012 Here are the dates of when the subway services above have used the Fulton Street Line . April 9, 1936- Present October 10, 1944- 1954, August 27, 1976- Present 1957-1959 1957-August 27, 1976 G.O; Unavailable dates April 9, 1936- June 1, 1946 June 28, 1956- 1972, 1987-1993, G.O's January 23- Feburary 2, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted August 10, 2012 Share #31 Posted August 10, 2012 This can be cancelled out by adding more service let do lefferts at night replacing local service while extends to CI as for day let Select trains go to lefferts off peak only every 20 mins with to CI and rest of trains still serving CI. This adds more purpose to the . NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted August 10, 2012 Share #32 Posted August 10, 2012 If they are doing work on the viaduct again, then the can't get to Coney Island. The only went to Coney Island those times cuz they were working on the platform at Jay St and replacing signals between Jay & Bergen Sts Don't send the there then. But why send the to Lefferts? WHY? Will there be reduced service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted August 10, 2012 Share #33 Posted August 10, 2012 The answer should be pretty clear. It's to keep crew costs down. Instead of having three lines on Fulton Street at night during this G.O. (the A to Far Rockaway, Lefferts shuttle and the F to Euclid), as well as having two of those lines ending at Euclid Av, they could just run the F all the way to Lefferts and axe the shuttle for the weekend. All without reducing service to the Fulton St line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted August 10, 2012 Share #34 Posted August 10, 2012 Don't send the there then. But why send the to Lefferts? WHY? Will there be reduced service? The to Lefferts is because it's already going to Euclid*, and late nights it will be merged with the Lefferts Shuttle. Have you read this thread even? *Why can't they end the at Jay St? Or Hoyt St and then turn via the spur at Lafayette Av? to Euclid sounds like a foamer solution to a near-nonexistent problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted August 10, 2012 Share #35 Posted August 10, 2012 The to Lefferts is because it's already going to Euclid*, and late nights it will be merged with the Lefferts Shuttle. Have you read this thread even? *Why can't they end the at Jay St? Or Hoyt St and then turn via the spur at Lafayette Av? to Euclid sounds like a foamer solution to a near-nonexistent problem. When the did end at Jay St, it used the lower level of Bergen St to relay. When the ended at Hoyt-Schermerhorn that weekend, it did in fact use the 5th track past Lafayette Av to relay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted August 10, 2012 Share #36 Posted August 10, 2012 When the did end at Jay St, it used the lower level of Bergen St to relay. When the ended at Hoyt-Schermerhorn that weekend, it did in fact use the 5th track past Lafayette Av to relay So why don't they do either of those again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan05979 Posted August 10, 2012 Share #37 Posted August 10, 2012 The answer should be pretty clear. It's to keep crew costs down. Instead of having three lines on Fulton Street at night during this G.O. (the A to Far Rockaway, Lefferts shuttle and the F to Euclid), as well as having two of those lines ending at Euclid Av, they could just run the F all the way to Lefferts and axe the shuttle for the weekend. All without reducing service to the Fulton St line. Plus no switchmen to do the relay's @ Euc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted August 10, 2012 Share #38 Posted August 10, 2012 I'm not surprised that they finally have overnight F via Fulton GO's to Lefferts. They tried Hoyt. I've seen myself that can get a little crazy. There was usually always an Apple right behind it waiting for the F to fully discharge. Same thing overnights when ending at Euclid since the center track is the Shuttle. Even though the Lefferts shuttle is OPTO, it still saves money on crews (and even equipment maintenence), as already mentioned in this thread. You can expect R160s. No doubt. Is it programmed? IMHO, I wouldn't doubt it. Those FINDs are designed for things like this. And with all the possibilities, I wouldn't be surprised if all the codes are completely given to crews. I wouldn't be surprised if they're provided the codes right before their runs. It's already programmed with both Fulton local and express for that GO. But we'll soon all find out for sure in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 10, 2012 Share #39 Posted August 10, 2012 OR they will use pitkin and 207th st equipment like they did 3 years ago for one weekend along with jamaica equipment, and don't say it won't happen because it can, thats how I cought this in 2009: http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?109757 too bad these are gone now but im just sayin lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTA Bus Posted August 10, 2012 Share #40 Posted August 10, 2012 I've seen some unique G.Os in the past, but this is the most unique one I've ever seen. The stopping in 4 boroughs. That's awesome. BTW, the ()' /> might add a program for the to Lefferts Blvd via Fulton Street Local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 10, 2012 Share #41 Posted August 10, 2012 [quote name=MTA Bus' timestamp='1344636246' post='568557] I've seen some unique G.Os in the past, but this is the most unique one I've ever seen. The stopping in 4 boroughs. That's awesome. BTW, the ()' /> might add a program for the to Lefferts Blvd via Fulton Street Local. they aren't gonna update every R160 for just One GO, so they will mostlikely re program the train to say A,C or S to Lefferts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Railfan Posted August 10, 2012 Share #42 Posted August 10, 2012 they aren't gonna update every R160 for just One GO, so they will mostlikely re program the train to say A,C or S to Lefferts But that's only if there already isn't a program. Like i stated earlier i'm almost certain there's a to lefferts from 179 street program in the 160s. If there isn't one , just sign it up to Euclid and then sign it up as a Shuttle to Lefferts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted August 10, 2012 Share #43 Posted August 10, 2012 they aren't gonna update every R160 for just One GO, so they will mostlikely re program the train to say A,C or S to Lefferts As Mr Railfan said, they do have the program for the to Lefferts, just like the to Far Rockaway. I think they would sign them up as trains. Maybe you might see one blue , but I would primarily believe they would be signed up as trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted August 10, 2012 Share #44 Posted August 10, 2012 I think they would sign them up as trains. Maybe you might see one blue , but I would primarily believe they would be signed up as trains. No, they would be signed as trains. Just like when s run via the and are signed thus and not as s, these trains will stay as s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted August 10, 2012 Share #45 Posted August 10, 2012 If they sign them up as s, the entire Fulton Line will be shut down due to flooding... FOAMFEST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted August 10, 2012 Share #46 Posted August 10, 2012 As Mr Railfan said, they do have the program for the to Lefferts, just like the to Far Rockaway. I think they would sign them up as trains. Maybe you might see one blue , but I would primarily believe they would be signed up as trains. There is NO to Lefferts Blvd program on the R160s so let cut the BS now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sovetskii52 Posted August 11, 2012 Share #47 Posted August 11, 2012 If there is no program for the to Lefferts Blvd, but is a program for the Euclid Avenue - Lefferts Blvd , then they can do this: While the train is running from Jamaica - 179th Street to Euclid Avenue, have it be signed up as an to Euclid Avenue. Once the train reaches Euclid Avenue, the operator, or the conductor can change it to a to Lefferts Blvd. And vise verso. To avoid having to reprogram the train, i would rather have it be programmed as an to Euclid Avenue, then turn off the program, and simply make the anouncements manually to Lefferts Blvd. Wish i could be in New York when theis happens. Hope someone is willing to spend the night recording this interesting first-time G.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted August 11, 2012 Share #48 Posted August 11, 2012 [quote name=MTA Bus' timestamp='1344636246' post='568557] I've seen some unique G.Os in the past, but this is the most unique one I've ever seen. The stopping in 4 boroughs. That's awesome. BTW, the ()' /> might add a program for the to Lefferts Blvd via Fulton Street Local. It's still 3 borough, Queens, Manhattan, and Brooklyn. The MTA won't program the R160's for this. They can just sign it normally or to Euclid, but the T/O or C/O can say it goes to Lefferts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted August 11, 2012 Share #49 Posted August 11, 2012 1957-1959 These were just midday layups at Pitkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted August 11, 2012 Share #50 Posted August 11, 2012 No F to Lefferts program can only mean one other option: " F Listen For Announcement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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