Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 18, 2015 Share #2026 Posted March 18, 2015 It runs on the "service road" currently so I wondered if a set up like the B7 on Kings Highway would work. It doesn't run frequently enough to mar traffic, the islands are already there and less lights... I don't think that's necessary, and with the way traffic flies along the Concourse on the real main road (not the service road), it doesn't make any sense. It would just increase the likelihood of fatalities or injuries, especially with seniors who would be trying to get to the islands and duck and dodge traffic. I have seen numerous people almost run over while on the BxM4 as they attempt to cross the Concourse. The reality is that some BxM4 B/Os already use the main road where possible if they know that people aren't getting at certain stops. The real bottleneck that always infuriates me is the one by Fordham Road. Having to take the service road there Northbound can eat up anywhere from 5 - 10 minutes with the amount of double parking along the Concourse and cars turning onto Fordham Road. The traffic agents should be over there writing tickets to stop that nonsense. When no one is getting off at Fordham Road and the B/O gets off of the service road and onto the main road, getting past Fordham Road is a breeze. Oddly enough, Southbound, I don't notice any of the aforementioned issues with traffic and the like. I say extend the BxM4 up to Cross County Shopping Center in Yonkers via Kimball Ave. That would bring in some more riders to the route. I agree. It isn't that long of a ride either, as I am picked up by my client from Katonah and 242nd and their residence is close to the Shopping Center. It's a 5 minute ride tops. I would make 2 or three stops along Kimball, and have it terminate right inside the shopping center. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxM4Woodlawn Posted March 18, 2015 Share #2027 Posted March 18, 2015 I don't think that's necessary, and with the way traffic flies along the Concourse on the real main road (not the service road), it doesn't make any sense. It would just increase the likelihood of fatalities or injuries, especially with seniors who would be trying to get to the islands and duck and dodge traffic. I have seen numerous people almost run over while on the BxM4 as they attempt to cross the Concourse. The reality is that some BxM4 B/Os already use the main road where possible if they know that people aren't getting at certain stops. The real bottleneck that always infuriates me is the one by Fordham Road. Having to take the service road there Northbound can eat up anywhere from 5 - 10 minutes with the amount of double parking along the Concourse and cars turning onto Fordham Road. The traffic agents should be over there writing tickets to stop that nonsense. When no one is getting off at Fordham Road and the B/O gets off of the service road and onto the main road, getting past Fordham Road is a breeze. Oddly enough, Southbound, I don't notice any of the aforementioned issues with traffic and the like. I agree. It isn't that long of a ride either, as I am picked up by my client from Katonah and 242nd and their residence is close to the Shopping Center. It's a 5 minute ride tops. I would make 2 or three stops along Kimball, and have it terminate right inside the shopping center. I think an extended BxM4 to Cross County-Yonkers should make the following stops: Kimball Ave/McLean Ave (no longer stops at 242nd St) Kimball Ave/Scott Ave Kimball Ave/Sterling Ave Kimball Ave/Yonkers Ave Kimball Ave/Miles Square Rd Cross County Shopping Ctr. I also would bring back the Super Express with these new added stops in Yonkers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 18, 2015 Share #2028 Posted March 18, 2015 I think an extended BxM4 to Cross County-Yonkers should make the following stops: Kimball Ave/McLean Ave (no longer stops at 242nd St) Kimball Ave/Scott Ave Kimball Ave/Sterling Ave Kimball Ave/Yonkers Ave Kimball Ave/Miles Square Rd Cross County Shopping Ctr. I also would bring back the Super Express with these new added stops in Yonkers. I would not remove the Katonah and 242nd street stop... Are you crazy? Residents in Woodlawn will not want to walk up the hill from 237th and Katonah to their homes, and there are quite a few people that live along Van Cortlandt Park East in Woodlawn that use that stop. That part of Woodlawn is the well-to-do part if you will, even though Woodlawn is not really upper middle class or even affluent, but solid middle class, but the solid middle class areas (over $70k) are right along Van Cortlandt Park East and that is ridership that the BxM4 can ill afford to lose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxM4Woodlawn Posted March 18, 2015 Share #2029 Posted March 18, 2015 I would not remove the Katonah and 242nd street stop... Are you crazy? Residents in Woodlawn will not want to walk up the hill from 237th and Katonah to their homes, and there are quite a few people that live along Van Cortlandt Park East in Woodlawn that use that stop. That part of Woodlawn is the well-to-do part if you will, even though Woodlawn is not really upper middle class or even affluent, but solid middle class, but the solid middle class areas (over $70k) are right along Van Cortlandt Park East and that is ridership that the BxM4 can ill afford to lose. I was saying it would now stop at McLean Ave which is pretty much in walking distance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 18, 2015 Share #2030 Posted March 18, 2015 I was saying it would now stop at McLean Ave which is pretty much in walking distance. It is in walking distance from 242nd and Katonah, but not necessarily from 237th and Katonah. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted March 18, 2015 Share #2031 Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't remove 242nd/Katonah either - regardless of which side of the street the physical bus stop would be located on at Kimball/McLean.... I wouldn't run such an extension all the way up to Cross County either; it isn't necessary... I already spoke on this numerous times, Yonkers Raceway is enough; potential patrons can use it for a park & ride instead.... It's enough of a PITA getting out of cross county as it is.... If the idea is to attract shoppers, forget that.... Edited March 18, 2015 by B35 via Church 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 19, 2015 Share #2032 Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) I wouldn't remove 242nd/Katonah either - regardless of which side of the street the physical bus stop would be located on at Kimball/McLean.... I wouldn't run such an extension all the way up to Cross County either; it isn't necessary... I already spoke on this numerous times, Yonkers Raceway is enough; potential patrons can use it for a park & ride instead.... It's enough of a PITA getting out of cross county as it is.... If the idea is to attract shoppers, forget that.... I think it could though esp. if you added some SX trips... Some people use that as a park and ride anyway. One of my clients lives in a co-op very close by and parks their Acura there and has their other car in a parking space on they pay for with the co-op. Edited March 19, 2015 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted March 19, 2015 Share #2033 Posted March 19, 2015 I wonder where in Cross County was the BxM4 gonna terminate anyway? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 19, 2015 Share #2034 Posted March 19, 2015 I wonder where in Cross County was the BxM4 gonna terminate anyway? It could terminate right where the Bee Lines buses stop or somewhere near them. I've never used the Bee Line bus but I've seen them when being driven to and from the BxM4 bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxM4Woodlawn Posted March 19, 2015 Share #2035 Posted March 19, 2015 It could terminate right where the Bee Lines buses stop or somewhere near them. I've never used the Bee Line bus but I've seen them when being driven to and from the BxM4 bus. right where the B-L 25, 26, and 55 stop 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted March 19, 2015 Share #2036 Posted March 19, 2015 right where the B-L 25, 26, and 55 stop You mean right outside the Macy's. If you're having them run up/down Kimball, you might as well add a stop on the other side of the mall (maybe even outside mall property, near the Sears parking lot) since its gonna go past it. That walk from Macy's to Sears is no joke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted March 28, 2015 Share #2037 Posted March 28, 2015 What's up with the construction at Fordham Plaza? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted March 28, 2015 Share #2038 Posted March 28, 2015 What's up with the construction at Fordham Plaza? Search me.... The last time I was out there {earlier on in the year}, it was 5 in the morning, and the only thing on my mind at the time was catching the Bx9 (up to 242nd for some bee line fanning).... I'd like to know just what it is they're supposed to be doing with Fordham Plaza exactly; are they adding amenities or something? Is it solely some cosmetic enhancement?.... Hell, at least I know what they want to do w/ WBP.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 28, 2015 Share #2039 Posted March 28, 2015 Search me.... The last time I was out there {earlier on in the year}, it was 5 in the morning, and the only thing on my mind at the time was catching the Bx9 (up to 242nd for some bee line fanning).... I'd like to know just what it is they're supposed to be doing with Fordham Plaza exactly; are they adding amenities or something? Is it solely some cosmetic enhancement?.... Hell, at least I know what they want to do w/ WBP.... What's up with the construction at Fordham Plaza? Yes that whole area is being re-done for new tenants to move in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted March 28, 2015 Share #2040 Posted March 28, 2015 They're putting a condo there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted March 28, 2015 Share #2041 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) They're putting a condo there? This should clarify things for you: EXISTING PLANS & UPCOMING PROJECTS Several current and future projects will help contribute to strengthening the area. These include the following: • The Fordham station renovation began in 2013. This $18 million project will provide vital amenities for this transit hub including: widening the platforms, adding new canopies, and installing real-time train information monitors in the station. • The reconstruction of Fordham Plaza is currently under way. The project is a partnership between the Economic Development Corporation and the NYC Department of Transportation. It is intended to transform Fordham Plaza into a world-class public space. Source: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/sustainable_communities/bronx_metro_report/fordham.pdf Edited March 28, 2015 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted March 28, 2015 Share #2042 Posted March 28, 2015 I see thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted April 3, 2015 Share #2043 Posted April 3, 2015 Since one has posted in over a week... Route Bx68 Hours of Availability 24/7. Late nights route runs 15-20 minutes. Depot for this Route West Farms Route Overview The route starts at Hunts Point Market with the following that route. Then, it will make a right at Bruckner Boulevard, serving the local streets. It continues straight on that street when reaching the Bruckner Interchange until East Tremont Avenue, and joins with the and . It keeps on following the until Harding Avenue, where it will make a left. Later, it will continue on Harding Avenue until Pennyfield Avenue to join the , and terminate with it at Locust Point (a neighborhood where it overlooks the Throgs Neck Bridge). The return route follows the until Pennyfield Avenue, but continuing straight onto Harding Avenue until meeting the where it makes a right. It continues straight north on East Tremont Avenue until reaching Bruckner Boulevard turning left. It continues straight on Bruckner Boulevard all the way until Hunts Point Avenue where it makes a left. From there, it re-meets the , following that route to with it (along with the Bx46) to terminate at Hunts Point Produce Market. Bus Fleet This route will use all of West Farms' standard local fleet. RTS'es 4671, 4672, 4673, and 4674 will be reserved for this route. Benefits Gives local residents easier access to Clason Point, Soundview, Castle Hill, and Schuylerville. Overall, what do you think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted April 3, 2015 Share #2044 Posted April 3, 2015 Since one has posted in over a week... Route Bx68 Hours of Availability 24/7. Late nights route runs 15-20 minutes. Depot for this Route West Farms Route Overview The route starts at Hunts Point Market with the following that route. Then, it will make a right at Bruckner Boulevard, serving the local streets. It continues straight on that street when reaching the Bruckner Interchange until East Tremont Avenue, and joins with the and . It keeps on following the until Harding Avenue, where it will make a left. Later, it will continue on Harding Avenue until Pennyfield Avenue to join the , and terminate with it at Locust Point (a neighborhood where it overlooks the Throgs Neck Bridge). The return route follows the until Pennyfield Avenue, but continuing straight onto Harding Avenue until meeting the where it makes a right. It continues straight north on East Tremont Avenue until reaching Bruckner Boulevard turning left. It continues straight on Bruckner Boulevard all the way until Hunts Point Avenue where it makes a left. From there, it re-meets the , following that route to with it (along with the Bx46) to terminate at Hunts Point Produce Market. Bus Fleet This route will use all of West Farms' standard local fleet. RTS'es 4671, 4672, 4673, and 4674 will be reserved for this route. Benefits Gives local residents easier access to Clason Point, Soundview, Castle Hill, and Schuylerville. Overall, what do you think? Is there any actual demand for such a route? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted April 3, 2015 Share #2045 Posted April 3, 2015 A route that serves the southern Bronx...not bad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted April 3, 2015 Share #2046 Posted April 3, 2015 Since one has posted in over a week... Route Bx68 Hours of Availability 24/7. Late nights route runs 15-20 minutes. Depot for this Route West Farms Route Overview The route starts at Hunts Point Market with the following that route. Then, it will make a right at Bruckner Boulevard, serving the local streets. It continues straight on that street when reaching the Bruckner Interchange until East Tremont Avenue, and joins with the and . It keeps on following the until Harding Avenue, where it will make a left. Later, it will continue on Harding Avenue until Pennyfield Avenue to join the , and terminate with it at Locust Point (a neighborhood where it overlooks the Throgs Neck Bridge). The return route follows the until Pennyfield Avenue, but continuing straight onto Harding Avenue until meeting the where it makes a right. It continues straight north on East Tremont Avenue until reaching Bruckner Boulevard turning left. It continues straight on Bruckner Boulevard all the way until Hunts Point Avenue where it makes a left. From there, it re-meets the , following that route to with it (along with the Bx46) to terminate at Hunts Point Produce Market. Bus Fleet This route will use all of West Farms' standard local fleet. RTS'es 4671, 4672, 4673, and 4674 will be reserved for this route. Benefits Gives local residents easier access to Clason Point, Soundview, Castle Hill, and Schuylerville. Overall, what do you think? So basically your route mirrors the Bx6 to Bruckner, then goes Bruckner serv. rd > E. Tremont av > Harding av > to mirror the Bx8 to Tierney pl.... The immediate thing I'm thinking is, Why are you trying to connect Hunts Point & Soundview with Throgs Neck & Locust Point? There's no demand for this... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted April 3, 2015 Share #2047 Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Maybe he (The New York Elevated) feels the Bx5 is that bad along Bruckner...Wasn't the planning some kind of BRT on Bruckner anyway? Wait a minute...this doesn't even connect to a subway station! Edited April 3, 2015 by Q43LTD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted April 3, 2015 Share #2048 Posted April 3, 2015 Maybe he (The New York Elevated) feels the Bx5 is that bad along Bruckner...Wasn't the planning some kind of BRT on Bruckner anyway? Wait a minute...this doesn't even connect to a subway station! It connects to the at hunts point. And there is planning for a Bruckner corridor. This idea seems decent, but again, is there demand for it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armandito Posted April 4, 2015 Share #2049 Posted April 4, 2015 Why was the Bx2 rerouted away from 165th Street and Melrose Avenue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted April 5, 2015 Share #2050 Posted April 5, 2015 Why was the Bx2 rerouted away from 165th Street and Melrose Avenue? Street reconfiguration around the hub; Buses couldn't take melrose straight down to 3rd anymore... Melrose now is one way SB for the 1 block b/w 150th & 149th, and all SB traffic have to turn WB at 149th... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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