BrooklynIRT Posted February 8, 2014 Share #1 Posted February 8, 2014 What are some common outer borough trips made by mass transit? In other words, what are the starting points and/r ending points for these trips? What are the major destinations on such trips? I suppose Sunset Park and Downstate/KCH are a couple of them; this article stated such: http://nycfuture.org/research/publications/ny-borough-to-borough-commute-fuhgeddaboudit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted February 8, 2014 Share #2 Posted February 8, 2014 Brighton Beach and Coney Island are some common ending points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted February 8, 2014 Share #3 Posted February 8, 2014 What are some common outer borough trips made by mass transit? In other words, what are the starting points and/r ending points for these trips? What are the major destinations on such trips? I suppose Sunset Park and Downstate/KCH are a couple of them; this article stated such: http://nycfuture.org/research/publications/ny-borough-to-borough-commute-fuhgeddaboudit Flushing is a major one (linked by the Chinatown vans which no one should consider taking public, various Queens buses, and the ). LIC is also pretty big when the is running. QCM is kinda big, Forest Hills is even smaller. Is Jamaica even really a "destination"? Cause I consider that more of a transfer point (there's not much to actually do in the neighborhood) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted February 8, 2014 Share #4 Posted February 8, 2014 Destinations: Jamaica Queens for shopping/etc Woodhaven Blvd Station& Elmhurst Ave, Queens Center Mall/Target/etc Fordham Rd Bronx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted February 8, 2014 Share #5 Posted February 8, 2014 Flushing is a major one (linked by the Chinatown vans which no one should consider taking public, various Queens buses, and the ). LIC is also pretty big when the is running. QCM is kinda big, Forest Hills is even smaller. Is Jamaica even really a "destination"? Cause I consider that more of a transfer point (there's not much to actually do in the neighborhood) I mean, Jamaica is a big neighbourhood. While it may not be a popular destination for shopping and stuff, there are people who visit others or hang out (esp. in the southern part of Jamaica). Not too mention that quite a lot of people take the bus to school there or parents who drop kids off at school by bus. So it's a lot more than just a transfer point. But the shopping area is in the lift though. The last couple of months I read in various places how people are starting to notice the shops there and actually shop there, esp. teenagers (15+) and students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 8, 2014 Share #6 Posted February 8, 2014 Flushing is a major one (linked by the Chinatown vans which no one should consider taking public, various Queens buses, and the ). LIC is also pretty big when the is running. QCM is kinda big, Forest Hills is even smaller. Is Jamaica even really a "destination"? Cause I consider that more of a transfer point (there's not much to actually do in the neighborhood) Absolutely. Many major city agency administrative offices are there. (Jamaica Center) We have the Airtrain and one of the most critical LIRR and surface transit hubs located there. Two rapid transit lines (well three) terminates in the business district or the outskirts, mostly serving the second most busiest lie in the US. And the shopping district is growing by leaps and bounds on Jamaica Avenue. Its also one of the most diverse residential areas in Queens next to Flushing. Its expanding. And so is the rent but thats another story. So now and historically definitely was and still is a town bustling with activity, comparable to again Flushing, another critical Queens business district and all important transit hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46Dover Posted February 9, 2014 Share #7 Posted February 9, 2014 Downtown Brooklyn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynIRT Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted February 9, 2014 Flushing is a major one (linked by the Chinatown vans which no one should consider taking public, various Queens buses, and the ). LIC is also pretty big when the is running. QCM is kinda big, Forest Hills is even smaller. Is Jamaica even really a "destination"? Cause I consider that more of a transfer point (there's not much to actually do in the neighborhood) Is there a demand for better connections between places like the Bronx or Brooklyn and Flushing, LIC, QCM, Forest Hills, and Jamaica? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted February 9, 2014 Share #9 Posted February 9, 2014 Downtown Brooklyn? Yup, another dead ringer, major business district. Historically a separate city in itself before the 5 boroughs were unified in the late 19th Century with the opening of the Brooklyn Bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeLow Posted February 9, 2014 Share #10 Posted February 9, 2014 Gateway Center in Spring Creek. Once Phase II is completed it will have a bus station. (not sure what that means exactly. Might be pie in the sky wishful thinking. You might wanna ignore the politics in the article...or not) A second 'Gateway' Gateway Phase II is a development project on the land south of Flatlands Avenue and north of Related's presently existing Gateway Mall. The project includes a new school campus opened last year, more than 600,000 square feet of retail space to be completed by the fall of 2014, over 2,200 units of affordable housing completed or under construction, a day care, new parkland, a bus station, and additional infrastructure. The mall expansion alone will generate 800 construction jobs and 1500 permanent retail jobs, says Joanna Rose of Related Companies. Walmart is out; Shop-Rite is in and Nordstrom Rack is coming. New, affordable housing; single, two & three-family homes for rent and lease; new parks, a high school; Spring Creek N/O Pennsylvania Ave has turned from a marshland dumping ground into an actual community. After years of effort, much-needed public transportation links, stores and restaurants are beginning to take shape, adding the finishing touches on Brooklyn's newest neighborhood. Currently, the nearest train station and bus stop are too far for many people to reach on foot. So a new bus route is being ironed out by the MTA and the city Department of Transportation in conjunction with the community. One possibility is a bus that would whisk residents to the No. 3 train's terminus at New Lots Avenue, according to an MTA spokesman. Area residents are more than ready for it. Right now the B13, 83, 84 & the Q8 serve Gateway. Once demand grows I figure the B14 will mosey on over from the mail facility as the 13 currently does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted February 9, 2014 Share #11 Posted February 9, 2014 For Queens, it's Far Rockaway, Queens Center, Flushing, Bay Terrace, Jamaica and College Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Posted February 9, 2014 Share #12 Posted February 9, 2014 Downtown Brooklyn? Creedmore Hospital. Everyone goes nuts about getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted February 9, 2014 Share #13 Posted February 9, 2014 Look at the big transit hubs... Jamaica Center, Flushing, Queens Plaza / LIC, Downtown Brooklyn, Kings Plaza, Queens Center, Williamsburg, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeLow Posted February 9, 2014 Share #14 Posted February 9, 2014 Creedmore Hospital. Everyone goes nuts about getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted February 10, 2014 Share #15 Posted February 10, 2014 Creedmore Hospital. Everyone goes nuts about getting there. I guess they wanna go see carlos danger huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 11, 2014 Share #16 Posted February 11, 2014 Is there a demand for better connections between places like the Bronx or Brooklyn and Flushing, LIC, QCM, Forest Hills, and Jamaica? Maybe a bronx to LGA or Astoria to Jackson heights bus can link these places better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted February 12, 2014 Share #17 Posted February 12, 2014 Is there a demand for better connections between places like the Bronx or Brooklyn and Flushing, LIC, QCM, Forest Hills, and Jamaica? Most of the feasible/logical connections exist (Eastern Bronx to Flushing, Ridgewood to LIC and Queens Blvd, LIC to Downtown Brooklyn and Williamsburg). Pretty much the only connection that doesn't exist that maybe should exist is Central Bronx to LGA route, which has been studied for implementation in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 12, 2014 Share #18 Posted February 12, 2014 Most of the feasible/logical connections exist (Eastern Bronx to Flushing, Ridgewood to LIC and Queens Blvd, LIC to Downtown Brooklyn and Williamsburg). Pretty much the only connection that doesn't exist that maybe should exist is Central Bronx to LGA route, which has been studied for implementation in the past. However Q50 isn't frequent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTS CNG Command Posted February 12, 2014 Share #19 Posted February 12, 2014 Some I'm very familiar with are as follows: 1. Jamaica Center, particularly Sutphin Avenue. Jamaica Center is the home of several bus routes to various other neighborhoods, including the n4 to Freeport. Sutphin Avenue E/J/Z is home to one of the busiest sections in the neighborhood because you have a rush of people getting on and off there as well as people heading to specific sections of JFK, either by the Q6 (local all day, limited during the rush) or AirTrain. Jamaica, Queens is also the home of CUNY's York College, so you will see people commute to there. 2. Flushing. The very end of the is the home of the neighborhood's hub. It's very busy, but also has very fantastic Asian dining if you wish to try. Simultaneously, there are many buses (as well as the LIRR) nearby in case you wish to commute (including the Q48 to LaGuardia and Q50 to Pelham Bay Park and Co-Op City), whether it's required or for fun. One stop before is Citi Field, and you'll see a lot of Met fans travel there during the baseball season. 3. Downtown Brooklyn is one of the biggest working districts in the outer boroughs. Before the green cabs hit the streets, minus the airports, it was one of the few outer-borough neighborhoods where yellow taxis traveled to. Just a short trip away is DUMBO, where you can take the B25 to Furman or the B67 to Vinegar Hill, the Navy Yard, or South Williamsburg. It's also the home of two well-known colleges: CUNY's NYC College of Technology and NYU's Polytechnic Institute. 4. Come summertime, Coney Island is a major attraction to residents and tourists alike. Exit the Stillwell Avenue subway station to explore the beach, a Brooklyn Cyclones game, some of the CI mainstays like the Cyclone, Ferris Wheel, Luna Park, the food along the boardwalk, NY Aquarium, and a picture before the defunct Parachute Jump. 5. Queens Center Mall in Elmhurst. While not the last stop of a train, it's a Q60 ride away from Manhattan. You have a lot of people shopping there. To commute to other parts of the borough, the Q88 takes you to east Queens, while Hoffman Drive just south of there is a major bus hub. On the other hand, a quick Q53 ride northwest takes you to the Roosevelt Avenue hub, where you can take the Q70 Limited or Q47 to LaGuardia's Central or Marine Air Terminals, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted February 12, 2014 Share #20 Posted February 12, 2014 However Q50 isn't frequent. It's not frequent, but the service meets loading guidelines, and there's no point in running more buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBus Posted February 16, 2014 Share #21 Posted February 16, 2014 Gateway Center in Spring Creek. Once Phase II is completed it will have a bus station. (not sure what that means exactly. Might be pie in the sky wishful thinking. You might wanna ignore the politics in the article...or not) A second 'Gateway' Gateway Phase II is a development project on the land south of Flatlands Avenue and north of Related's presently existing Gateway Mall. The project includes a new school campus opened last year, more than 600,000 square feet of retail space to be completed by the fall of 2014, over 2,200 units of affordable housing completed or under construction, a day care, new parkland, a bus station, and additional infrastructure. The mall expansion alone will generate 800 construction jobs and 1500 permanent retail jobs, says Joanna Rose of Related Companies. Walmart is out; Shop-Rite is in and Nordstrom Rack is coming. New, affordable housing; single, two & three-family homes for rent and lease; new parks, a high school; Spring Creek N/O Pennsylvania Ave has turned from a marshland dumping ground into an actual community. After years of effort, much-needed public transportation links, stores and restaurants are beginning to take shape, adding the finishing touches on Brooklyn's newest neighborhood. Currently, the nearest train station and bus stop are too far for many people to reach on foot. So a new bus route is being ironed out by the MTA and the city Department of Transportation in conjunction with the community. One possibility is a bus that would whisk residents to the No. 3 train's terminus at New Lots Avenue, according to an MTA spokesman. Area residents are more than ready for it. Right now the B13, 83, 84 & the Q8 serve Gateway. Once demand grows I figure the B14 will mosey on over from the mail facility as the 13 currently does. It is still a 3 bus two fare trip from Canarsie which is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeLow Posted February 16, 2014 Share #22 Posted February 16, 2014 It is still a 3 bus two fare trip from Canarsie which is insane. B6 & B82 run along the Flatlands corridor and they both Xfer to the B83. S/O Flatlands is the B42 which serves the and the B17, whose main route runs btn Seaview Ave. & Crown Hgts. along Remsen Ave., neither giving a one fare connection to Gateway. A direct service (B85) could be made starting at the S/E c/o Rockaway Pkwy. & Seaview Ave., then north along E 108th to Flatlands, east to Fountain terminating at the mall, then back again to E 108th, south to Ave. N, west to Rockaway Pkwy. and south to terminal. Another solution extends B82 to Gateway, allowing Xfers from B6, 17, 42, 47, 60 & 103, along with Xfers from the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 16, 2014 Share #23 Posted February 16, 2014 B6 & B82 run along the Flatlands corridor and they both Xfer to the B83. S/O Flatlands is the B42 which serves the and the B17, whose main route runs btn Seaview Ave. & Crown Hgts. along Remsen Ave., neither giving a one fare connection to Gateway. A direct service (B85) could be made starting at the S/E c/o Rockaway Pkwy. & Seaview Ave., then north along E 108th to Flatlands, east to Fountain terminating at the mall, then back again to E 108th, south to Ave. N, west to Rockaway Pkwy. and south to terminal. Another solution extends B82 to Gateway, allowing Xfers from B6, 17, 42, 47, 60 & 103, along with Xfers from the . Or extend B6 LTDS to gateway done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q101viaSteinway Posted February 16, 2014 Share #24 Posted February 16, 2014 It is still a 3 bus two fare trip from Canarsie which is insane. should we extend 103 bus to gateway then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemoreira81 Posted February 16, 2014 Share #25 Posted February 16, 2014 Gateway Center in Spring Creek. Once Phase II is completed it will have a bus station. (not sure what that means exactly. Might be pie in the sky wishful thinking. You might wanna ignore the politics in the article...or not) A second 'Gateway' Gateway Phase II is a development project on the land south of Flatlands Avenue and north of Related's presently existing Gateway Mall. The project includes a new school campus opened last year, more than 600,000 square feet of retail space to be completed by the fall of 2014, over 2,200 units of affordable housing completed or under construction, a day care, new parkland, a bus station, and additional infrastructure. The mall expansion alone will generate 800 construction jobs and 1500 permanent retail jobs, says Joanna Rose of Related Companies. Walmart is out; Shop-Rite is in and Nordstrom Rack is coming. New, affordable housing; single, two & three-family homes for rent and lease; new parks, a high school; Spring Creek N/O Pennsylvania Ave has turned from a marshland dumping ground into an actual community. After years of effort, much-needed public transportation links, stores and restaurants are beginning to take shape, adding the finishing touches on Brooklyn's newest neighborhood. Currently, the nearest train station and bus stop are too far for many people to reach on foot. So a new bus route is being ironed out by the MTA and the city Department of Transportation in conjunction with the community. One possibility is a bus that would whisk residents to the No. 3 train's terminus at New Lots Avenue, according to an MTA spokesman. Area residents are more than ready for it. Right now the B13, 83, 84 & the Q8 serve Gateway. Once demand grows I figure the B14 will mosey on over from the mail facility as the 13 currently does. From what I have heard...all of the buses that serve Gateway will pull into the mall except for the B83, because its last stop is at the DDSO. A route to me that would make sense to extend is the Q7 via the Q8 route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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