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MTA Releases Culver Line Report, Proposes Viaduct Express Service


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$140M Station Renewal Project 

The long-term service changes are part of a nine-station renewal project being conducted by MTA New York City Transit along the Culver f.png line. Ditmas Av was previously renewed under an earlier phase of the project. The remaining eight stations that will be renewed are: 18 AvAvenue IBay PkwyAvenue NAvenue PKings HwyAvenue U, and Avenue X.

Over 27,000 daily customers will benefit from:

  • Repaired staircases, fare control areas, walls, floors and platform girders.
  • New platform windscreens, rubbing boards, tactile warning strips and concrete slabs.
  • Improved lighting.
  • Installed artwork.

In order to perform this renewal work, access to the tracks is necessary. We will be completing this project in two phases; the Coney Island-bound platforms will be rehabilitated first and will be out of service for six months. Coney Island-bound service will still be available at 18 Av and Kings Hwy. The next phase, affecting Manhattan-bound service, begins in 2017.

This work is part of the MTA Capital Plan andis unrelated to the f.png express study. Any adjustments to f.png service in response to the study would occur at the conclusion of the next phase of work.

Beginning Tuesday, June 7, 2016
Coney Island-bound f.png trains will not stop at 
Avenue I, Bay Pkwy, Avenue N, Avenue P, 
Avenue U, and Avenue X until early 2017

Manhattan-bound f.png makes all stops to Church Av
Coney Island-bound f.png is available at 18 Av and Kings Hwy

Travel alternatives:
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For service to these stations from Manhattan, take the Coney Island-bound f.png to Kings Hwy or Neptune Av and transfer to a Manhattan-bound f.png.
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For Coney Island-bound service from these stations, take a Manhattan-bound f.png to Kings Hwy or 18 Avand transfer to a Coney Island-bound f.png.
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f.png customers may also consider alternate service and stations on the n.png and b.pngq.png lines.
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Long-term service changes to Manhattan-bound n.pngservice in Brooklyn may affect your trip.  
 
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Note: Beginning Tuesday, June 7 and continuing for five weeks, Coney Island-bound f.png and g.png trains will operate at slower speeds due to switch work at Bergen St. Some Coney Island-bound peak-hour f.png trains will run express from Jay St-MetroTech to 4 Av-9 St.
 
 
 
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I'll say it again: There are not enough train cars in the system to run additional (F) trains local to Church Avenue. The only way to terminate trains at Church is to shorten the Kings Highway bound trains and reduce frequency along that stretch too.

 

If there were enough cars to run such an additional service, it would have been proposed from the start.

Another question is would Jamaica yard be able to handle the extra trains if they were available for said service

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Another question is would Jamaica yard be able to handle the extra trains if they were available for said service

They can barely handle the trains they have now hence why they store trains on the Express along Hillside Avenue during the evenings/nights/weekends.

 

Jamaica Yard is actually supposed to go through some rehabilitation soon (I think in a few years) as well as extending the yard.  

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They can barely handle the trains they have now hence why they store trains on the Express along Hillside Avenue during the evenings/nights/weekends.

 

Jamaica Yard is actually supposed to go through some rehabilitation soon (I think in a few years) as well as extending the yard.  

Maintenance capacity and storage capacity are two different things. The inability to store all of the needed trains for service within the limits of the yard has no bearing on the ability of the shop to take on additional responsibility for more cars. 

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Increasing G service won't provide a one-seat ride to Manhattan which the F provides. Back in 1968, when F express service was first implemented along the Culver Line, the GG had a rush-hour extension to cover for the stations that the F skipped between Jay and Church. However, this still drew complaints from the affected local stations about the lack of a one-seat ride to Manhattan, so by 1976, F express service north of Church Ave was discontinued. Thus, an increase in G service in conjunction with the current F express proposal would essentially create the same kind of situation that existed from 1968-1976.

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The difference between the original <F> express plan of 1968-'76 and this one is that there will still be some local service to Manhattan under the current proposal. The question is whether that will be enough.

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Even if CULVER EXPRESS services are restored between Red Hook & Kensington, local service will be redacted as the subway cars in use can't expand service ANY WHERE. When the (L) is suspended, leftover cars will bring the (G), (C[R-160]) and (M) to full length trains but you will be seeing subway cars from the same gene pool per se.

 

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