Queensboro Plaza Renovations

[nightmare402]

 Thousands of commuters who pass through Queensboro Plaza each day will soon enjoy a roomier station and wheelchair-accessible elevators thanks to a significant renovation planned by the MTA.

https://patch.com/new-york/astoria-long-island-city/queensboro-plaza-getting-revamp-3-new-elevators-nicer-platforms

 

Edited May 12, 2022 by nightmare402

[GojiMet86]

I've seen a new structure being built on the sidewalk on Queens Plaza North and 27th Street. I thought that was going to be the elevator, but the article implies that's just a temporary staircase.

EDIT: I take it back. A new apartment tower on the north side will be building the elevator on Queens Plaza North.

 

Also, for 10 weekends, the is going to run to Forest Hills, while another  is running between Ditmars and 39th Avenue, and the will run between Flushing and 74th Street.

For another 4 weekends, the is replaced by shuttle buses to Ditmars, and the  between QBP and Vernon, Times Square and Hudson Yards.

Edited May 12, 2022 by GojiMet86

[jon2305]

Credit to Patch.com:

https://patch.com/new-york/astoria-long-island-city/queensboro-plaza-getting-revamp-3-new-elevators-nicer-platforms

[Vulturious]

10 hours ago, jon2305 said:

Credit to Patch.com:

https://patch.com/new-york/astoria-long-island-city/queensboro-plaza-getting-revamp-3-new-elevators-nicer-platforms

What was the point in posting this when it was already posted lol?

[jon2305]

Didn't see the prior post. Apologies 

[VIP]

On 5/12/2022 at 7:34 PM, GojiMet86 said:

I've seen a new structure being built on the sidewalk on Queens Plaza North and 27th Street. I thought that was going to be the elevator, but the article implies that's just a temporary staircase.

EDIT: I take it back. A new apartment tower on the north side will be building the elevator on Queens Plaza North.

 

Also, for 10 weekends, the is going to run to Forest Hills, while another  is running between Ditmars and 39th Avenue, and the will run between Flushing and 74th Street.

For another 4 weekends, the is replaced by shuttle buses to Ditmars, and the  between QBP and Vernon, Times Square and Hudson Yards.

Where is this stated? This would mean the  would Need R160’s 

[GojiMet86]

4 minutes ago, VIP said:

Where is this stated? This would mean the  would Need R160’s 

 

"In one potential headache for commuters, the construction will snarl nighttime weekend service along the station's three subway lines starting next year.

The station will close entirely between 4 a.m. Saturday and 10 p.m. Sunday for 10 weekends in 2023 and 2024, with 7 trains limited to eastern Queens and N trains running along the R line. Another series of weekend closures will suspend N service within Astoria, and between Queens and Manhattan."

 

[Vulturious]

12 minutes ago, GojiMet86 said:

 

"In one potential headache for commuters, the construction will snarl nighttime weekend service along the station's three subway lines starting next year.

The station will close entirely between 4 a.m. Saturday and 10 p.m. Sunday for 10 weekends in 2023 and 2024, with 7 trains limited to eastern Queens and N trains running along the R line. Another series of weekend closures will suspend N service within Astoria, and between Queens and Manhattan."

 

This just makes me wonder, are they planning on just killing the  and replacing it with the  for those 10 weekends? I get the feeling the  is going to probably run either late night service or replaced by some other line in the meantime.

[Eric B]

32 minutes ago, VIP said:

Where is this stated? This would mean the  would Need R160’s 

And the crews would need to be CBTC qualified!
I thought it was strange that they would move the  to 71st instead of just keeping the .

[Vulturious]

52 minutes ago, Eric B said:

And the crews would need to be CBTC qualified!
I thought it was strange that they would move the  to 71st instead of just keeping the .

Guess this means  trains are pretty much going to be replaced either entirely or part suspended.

[R32 3838]

On 5/13/2022 at 11:24 PM, Vulturious said:

Guess this means  trains are pretty much going to be replaced either entirely or part suspended.

 

They'll probably run them both together which would make sense. They have more than enough R160's for the weekend to run on the alongside the since they have lay ups in the yard, Along hillside, union turnpike, ave x yard and CIY.  So They wouldn't have to borrow anything like the R179s or R211A's from the .

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by R32 3838

[BreeddekalbL]

Just wack the shuttle train from ditmars to 39th and just run the shuttle bus and have them meet the shuttle bus at queens plaza 🙄

[Cait Sith]

2 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said:

Just wack the shuttle train from ditmars to 39th and just run the shuttle bus and have them meet the shuttle bus at queens plaza 🙄

The shuttles will be in the area, that's the issue.

[Eric B]

5 hours ago, R32 3838 said:

 

They'll probably run them both together which would make sense. They have more than enough R160's for the weekend to run on the alongside the since they have lay ups in the yard, Along hillside, union turnpike, ave x yard and CIY.  So They wouldn't have to borrow anything like the R179s or R211A's from the .

They're labeling the shuttles to Astoria as

 

[N6 Limited]

Why are they not running  trains to 33rd or the middle track at Woodside?

[Vulturious]

57 minutes ago, N6 Limited said:

Why are they not running  trains to 33rd or the middle track at Woodside?

Pretty sure both stations don't have any switches to terminate  trains.

[BreeddekalbL]

5 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

The shuttles will be in the area, that's the issue.

in that case just run it to the queens 36th street so you can maximize work on the astoria line etc

1 hour ago, Vulturious said:

Pretty sure both stations don't have any switches to terminate  trains.

there are switches near 33rd but i guess they dont want to get to close to construction zone, not at 61st tho i thought there used to be 

[4 via Mosholu]

6 hours ago, Eric B said:

They're labeling the shuttles to Astoria as

Why not give them the Broadway reading for the front and back and have the digital side sign say Shuttle?

That would be better in my opinion.

[darkstar8983]

On 5/13/2022 at 11:24 PM, Vulturious said:

Guess this means  trains are pretty much going to be replaced either entirely or part suspended.

or they could do what they did back in 2019 - just run the  from Coney Island to Times Sq-42 St, and replace the Astoria service with shuttle buses. 

[Vulturious]

1 hour ago, darkstar8983 said:

or they could do what they did back in 2019 - just run the  from Coney Island to Times Sq-42 St, and replace the Astoria service with shuttle buses. 

Clearly that isn't what they're going for. Honestly, the MTA has been making some weird service changes, I'm still in a way confused as to why they sent the  along Concourse and not just have a simple  swap.

[darkstar8983]

26 minutes ago, Vulturious said:

Clearly that isn't what they're going for. Honestly, the MTA has been making some weird service changes, I'm still in a way confused as to why they sent the  along Concourse and not just have a simple  swap.

I think there were other GOs that were preventing the south side of the Manhattan Bridge from being used, the 63 St connector, or even the use of the Cranberry St tunnel, so simply swapping the and  was not viable.  This way, they also save $$$ on crews. restricting the  crews to Brooklyn, and running 3 extra crews from the Concourse on the  to make service.

Edited May 16, 2022 by darkstar8983

[LGA Link N Train]

1 hour ago, Vulturious said:

Clearly that isn't what they're going for. Honestly, the MTA has been making some weird service changes, I'm still in a way confused as to why they sent the  along Concourse and not just have a simple  swap.

 

2 hours ago, darkstar8983 said:

or they could do what they did back in 2019 - just run the  from Coney Island to Times Sq-42 St, and replace the Astoria service with shuttle buses. 

Man those G.O.’s were pretty nice to fan. I grabbed my pictures/videos and dipped on those weekends 

[R32 3838]

On 5/15/2022 at 6:49 PM, Eric B said:

They're labeling the shuttles to Astoria as

 

They might change that, It's probably a typo. If not the people who planned that are very dumb.

[Theli11]

On 5/16/2022 at 1:36 AM, 4 via Mosholu said:

Why not give them the Broadway reading for the front and back and have the digital side sign say Shuttle?

That would be better in my opinion.

Or just label the Astoria Shuttle as . Nobody really knows what that Broadway means outside of the transit community. They'd likely recognize the though.

[4 via Mosholu]

45 minutes ago, Theli11 said:

Nobody really knows what that Broadway means outside of the transit community.

It was used at one point to indicate shuttle service via Broadway and 63 Street when the train as well as the train was cut to 57 Street on Sixth Avenue from February 22, 1998 to May 22, 1999 - though it used a single S colored in yellow. That S was written in black.