Abba Posted December 1, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 1, 2009 Check this article out: http://www.subchat.com/read.asp?Id=865383 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 1, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 1, 2009 train back to New Lots? Oh boy 9/11 Reborn! goes to 14th Street, via Local and nothing going to South Ferry? Maybe the (5)/(6) via Loop? Tho i wounder if the would split with Livonia and the sticks with the 148th yd? Man if this happens biy will this get interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 1, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 1, 2009 Livonia is a maintenance yard while Lennox is just storage. My guess as for how the R62s from the 3 will be split up: -go to the 1 to allow it to run to New Lots -go to the 4 so the 4 can displace R142/As to the 2 line for extra service via local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted December 1, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 1, 2009 I remember a G/O which sent the up to 137 Street, the and shared cars. The borrowed some of the (3)s cars and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 1, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 1, 2009 I remember a G/O which sent the up to 137 Street, the and shared cars. The borrowed some of the (3)s cars and vice versa. That G/O was related to the 1998 Lenox Avenue Rehab from 135th to 110th St, which couldn't take the since the ran peak direction to the Bronx and downtown via the Lex and then changed the other way as time went. MCH Shuttle buses L1, L2, L3 (L4 i think) allowed connection between the , tho depending where. Not direct connection between and but rather off the . Now that i remember, and that was a weird but cool g/o.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted December 1, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 1, 2009 I'll take this seriously when there's a more official announcement posted up somewhere on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted December 1, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 1, 2009 I am not surprised too much at all that this is occuring again because it was in the news from last year on "In Transit" on NY1 that the will be blocked off south of Chambers to finish work on WTC, so it has been official since last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted December 1, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 1, 2009 to the South Ferry Loop, late nights & weekdays to the loop, weekends. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted December 1, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 1, 2009 to the South Ferry Loop, late nights & weekdays to the loop, weekends. :cool: Good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted December 1, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 1, 2009 to New Lots Avenue Local to Flatbush Avenue-Brooklyn College Local to 14th Street Express Shuttle Buses between Chambers Street and South Ferry While work is being done at Cortlandt Street. The is going to have a nice long run with an elevated section at the beginning and end for railfans. The at Whitehall might become popular with Ferry riders temporarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted December 1, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 1, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R62A 1991 Posted December 1, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 1, 2009 If this does end up happening, I will only have one thing to complain about: during the post-9/11 period, trains were so frequent that trains backed up until before Pennsylvania Av downtown (especially during the post AM rush, when (2)s, (4)s, and (5)s went into Livonia Yard). It always took forever to get to Van Siclen even. But, Livonia and Eastern Pkwy will enjoy the increased service if it does end up happening; we're just not going to get used to the bunching that does sometime happen. If this happens, I can convince my family to start taking the Manhattan Bridge to bypass Lower Manhattan to speed their trip and avoid the local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 1, 2009 Share #13 Posted December 1, 2009 to the South Ferry Loop, late nights & weekdays to the loop, weekends. :cool: No, 6 to SF or BG if it is late nights only. You will overload the line if you have the 4/5/6 lines running together. Leave the 6 as is and extend it late nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted December 1, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 1, 2009 Glory to 7th Avenue; all R62/As!!! But unfortunately, there will be no express line and therefore every line would be extremely slow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 1, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 1, 2009 to the South Ferry Loop, late nights & weekdays to the loop, weekends. :cool: Or maybe bring back the SF ? Something is needed for Rush hours.. use the or via old Bowling Green track.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt91 Posted December 2, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 2, 2009 Several things: •would this be a 24/7 closure during WTC work? •If the loop is even able to be reopened, would the do it? • service should run a little less frequently to avoid congestion during the work •agreed with Grand Concourse, the (4)/(5) and all running b/t Brooklyn Bridge and Bowling Green during the day would cause unnecessary delays. If anything, the should run weekends with the via express, and to the loop or from Bay Ridge to Times Sq late nights and maybe to the loop weekends •If only 14th and chambers had more switches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted December 2, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 2, 2009 Glory to 7th Avenue; all R62/As!!! But unfortunately, there will be no express line and therefore every line would be extremely slow... What about the R142/142A on the ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 2, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 2, 2009 Lol, exactly. Even cutting back the 3, the 2 will still have R142s. The west side will never be 100% R62/As. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted December 2, 2009 Share #19 Posted December 2, 2009 to the South Ferry Loop, late nights & weekdays to the loop, weekends. :cool: yea good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted December 2, 2009 Share #20 Posted December 2, 2009 Lol, exactly. Even cutting back the 3, the 2 will still have R142s. The west side will never be 100% R62/As. Never has, never will be. The still had R33s during the 9/11 reroutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted December 3, 2009 Share #21 Posted December 3, 2009 A Bronx EXP on the should be temporary when a reroute happens next summer just to increase service a bit. Its stupid to see the 7th Ave. line trains operate local in all stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 3, 2009 Share #22 Posted December 3, 2009 I still think maybe they should have the 2 end at 14th St and keep the 3 to New Lots, while the 1 is sent to Flatbush. At least then you can cut the 2 so it won't be all local from 241st to Flatbush Av. The 3 is short enough by not having to go to the Bronx, so it should still run to Brooklyn. To make this work: have the 1 and 2 swap fleets for the time being till the work is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted December 3, 2009 Share #23 Posted December 3, 2009 What they were supposed to do for the initial reopening after the tunnel was rebuilt was build a switch south of Chambers wherever the local tracks run next to each other again, so the could run normally to the local track and then relay. Would have saved all of this headache. I never heard why that was dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted December 3, 2009 Share #24 Posted December 3, 2009 I don't understand why they dropped it. That would've saved a lot of hassle had they just built that switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted December 3, 2009 Share #25 Posted December 3, 2009 Yes, the South Ferry Branch will be shut down. No, there will not be a service pattern similar to that of 9/11. There will be a very different service pattern. The crossover was dropped because the construction involved would have shut down the line for longer than the proposed closure. It also would have cost LOTS of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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