Joel Up Front Posted November 11, 2010 Share #1 Posted November 11, 2010 When I sit on the operator's side of a bus close to the operator's seat, I get a good view of the farebox. If I look at it a certain angle, I can see two buttons, and when people pay with several coins (most likely dimes and nickels...) operators furiously press the lower button. -What do those buttons (those two buttons, not the ones near the top of the box/screen) do? -What about the light I see when people drop their coins into the farebox? -Why do operators press a button on the number pad near the top of the box if someone dips an empty MetroCard into the slot? -Do fareboxes automatically drop coins into the lower portion of the box itself after a while or do operators have to press a button to tell the box to do it? I don't like having coins. They're noisy, annoying to hold, and one time I almost clogged the coin slot and made the operator so occupied with getting them all in, I forgot to ask for a transfer and when I got off, I had to walk 3 miles to get home... of course, now I refill the card whenever it has less than $5 left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted November 11, 2010 Share #2 Posted November 11, 2010 -What do those buttons (those two buttons, not the ones near the top of the box/screen) do? The 'F' keys all have different functions. I know that one of them unlocks the Metrocard slot, dumps the coins and one other distributes transfers. Near the bottom of the farebox, there's a guide ow what everything does on the farebox. -What about the light I see when people drop their coins into the farebox? It's really just a backlight to see which coins are inserted and what not. -Why do operators press a button on the number pad near the top of the box if someone dips an empty MetroCard into the slot? So that the slot can be unlocked. -Do fareboxes automatically drop coins into the lower portion of the box itself after a while or do operators have to press a button to tell the box to do it? They do it automatically or the driver can do it manually via the button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted November 11, 2010 I know bus operators will hit one F key if an elderly/disabled person gets on and asks for a transfer. Those two buttons in the OP are the ones next to that backlight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 12, 2010 Share #4 Posted November 12, 2010 I know bus operators will hit one F key if an elderly/disabled person gets on and asks for a transfer. Those two buttons in the OP are the ones next to that backlight... There's 6 buttons (F1-F6) and they do different things... F1: gives transfer F2: disabled/senior citizen fare F3: worker pass F4: student half fare F5: I forgot what that does F6: dump coins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 12, 2010 Share #5 Posted November 12, 2010 I think F5 is for shortdrop (somebody dips in a MetroCard or coins with a partial fare) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted November 12, 2010 Where are all the bus operators when you need them... No one knows what those two lower buttons near the light do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noflexdont Posted November 12, 2010 Share #7 Posted November 12, 2010 There's 6 buttons (F1-F6) and they do different things... F1: gives transfer F2: disabled/senior citizen fare F3: worker pass F4: student half fare F5: I forgot what that does F6: dump coins some are correct some are not. F1 & F2 are correct, F3 is used when flagging a stop(full bus), F4 is correct F5 is Fare beat/short drop F6 is correct ill make a video of the farebox in operations tomorrow along with some pics for the bus operator POV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted November 12, 2010 Share #8 Posted November 12, 2010 Does F3 automatically display a "NEXT BUS PLEASE" sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olegkha Posted November 12, 2010 Share #9 Posted November 12, 2010 Does F3 automatically display a "NEXT BUS PLEASE" sign? no *0##11## will display that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadpilot Posted November 12, 2010 Share #10 Posted November 12, 2010 Where are all the bus operators when you need them... No one knows what those two lower buttons near the light do? The lower small button dejams the farebox. The one above it puts the farebox in bypass mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted November 12, 2010 Share #11 Posted November 12, 2010 some are correct some are not.F1 & F2 are correct, F3 is used when flagging a stop(full bus), F4 is correct F5 is Fare beat/short drop F6 is correct ill make a video of the farebox in operations tomorrow along with some pics for the bus operator POV Ooooooo ok...I had a feeling I had a few mixed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion69 Posted November 12, 2010 Share #12 Posted November 12, 2010 no*0##11## will display that You have to go through all that(8 characters) just to display a Next Bus Please sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted November 12, 2010 Share #13 Posted November 12, 2010 When I sit on the operator's side of a bus close to the operator's seat, I get a good view of the farebox. If I look at it a certain angle, I can see two buttons, and when people pay with several coins (most likely dimes and nickels...) operators furiously press the lower button. -What do those buttons (those two buttons, not the ones near the top of the box/screen) do? I know F6 is dump -What about the light I see when people drop their coins into the farebox? The green light is when $2.25 is deposited. It makes a high-pitched sound -Why do operators press a button on the number pad near the top of the box if someone dips an empty MetroCard into the slot? To clear the metrocard slot -Do fareboxes automatically drop coins into the lower portion of the box itself after a while or do operators have to press a button to tell the box to do it? it automatically drops after $2.25 is deposited I don't like having coins. They're noisy, annoying to hold, and one time I almost clogged the coin slot and made the operator so occupied with getting them all in, I forgot to ask for a transfer and when I got off, I had to walk 3 miles to get home... of course, now I refill the card whenever it has less than $5 left. Replies in red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted November 12, 2010 Share #14 Posted November 12, 2010 Whats Short drop? Paying metro-card and coins? some are correct some are not.F1 & F2 are correct, F3 is used when flagging a stop(full bus), F4 is correct F5 is Fare beat/short drop F6 is correct ill make a video of the farebox in operations tomorrow along with some pics for the bus operator POV Flagging a stop as in disabling Stop Request? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 12, 2010 Share #15 Posted November 12, 2010 A shortdrop is somebody who only pays part of the fare (they either dip in a MetroCard with less than $2.25 or drop in less than $2.25 in coins) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted November 13, 2010 Share #16 Posted November 13, 2010 You have to go through all that(8 characters) just to displaya Next Bus Please sign. Yes, because the signs read off the farebox. If you simply punch it into the Luminator control, it will eventually change back to what's on the farebox. Hence when drivers sign in/off the farebox, the signs change appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3 Via Av U Posted September 16, 2012 Share #17 Posted September 16, 2012 Question: Does the farebox accept nickels and dimes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 16, 2012 Share #18 Posted September 16, 2012 Question: Does the farebox accept nickels and dimes? Yes. The lower small button dejams the farebox. The one above it puts the farebox in bypass mode. Out of curiosity, what's bypass mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted September 17, 2012 Share #19 Posted September 17, 2012 Does the farebox have the ability to reject pennies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngblaze Posted September 17, 2012 Share #20 Posted September 17, 2012 Yes. Out of curiosity, what's bypass mode? Bypass is when there is either a coin jam or when the box is nearing it's capacity of coins...Once it's full then you would get the infamous "Probe Needed" message...call console and they tell you..."let the customers ride and write the defect on the OVCR card" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share #21 Posted September 17, 2012 Holy necroposting, Batman! Also, does the farebox "remember" who does and doesn't pay? Like say I get on with only $1.00 on my MC. A guy behind me pays with enough on his card and I come back with $1.25 in coins. I drop it in and it beeps to tell me I put the right amount of money in... I refill my card or have another one ready but I remember doing this a lot when I made the thread in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted September 17, 2012 Share #22 Posted September 17, 2012 Bypass is when there is either a coin jam or when the box is nearing it's capacity of coins...Once it's full then you would get the infamous "Probe Needed" message...call console and they tell you..."let the customers ride and write the defect on the OVCR card" lol. Yeah, but that depends how long you'll be out there with that bus. That happened about 2 weeks before the summer pick ended, on my Sunday run. I kept my bus for swing, and the duration of it, the bus shuts completely off after 15-20 minutes (ie. farebox cuts off, and everything else except the fire panel and radio).. So after turning the bus back on an hour later, and driving to my starting point, I realize I couldn't sign into the farebox properly, thus the infamous "probe needed" message.. Now I didn't wanna call the yard and give him the headache of deciding what I should do, so I call up Command, and right before she tells me to let the passengers ride free, she asked what time do I clear (this was around 9:25pm), which was 1:53am, then asked me if I was coming off swing, and told her yes... She told me to bring the bus back to the yard and swap out. Basically it depends on the situation, and being I still had 2 rounds left, and sorta near the depot, she told me to pull it in and write it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 17, 2012 Share #23 Posted September 17, 2012 Does the farebox have the ability to reject pennies? They accept pennies and it counts towards the fare. They just tell you not to use them cuz you might jam up the farebox with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noflexdont Posted September 17, 2012 Share #24 Posted September 17, 2012 Holy necroposting, Batman! Also, does the farebox "remember" who does and doesn't pay? Like say I get on with only $1.00 on my MC. A guy behind me pays with enough on his card and I come back with $1.25 in coins. I drop it in and it beeps to tell me I put the right amount of money in... I refill my card or have another one ready but I remember doing this a lot when I made the thread in 2010. No, the fare box can only preform one transaction at a time. The Bus Operator will remember how much you have paid. In that situation i just wave the customer on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noflexdont Posted September 17, 2012 Share #25 Posted September 17, 2012 Yeah, but that depends how long you'll be out there with that bus. That happened about 2 weeks before the summer pick ended, on my Sunday run. I kept my bus for swing, and the duration of it, the bus shuts completely off after 15-20 minutes (ie. farebox cuts off, and everything else except the fire panel and radio).. So after turning the bus back on an hour later, and driving to my starting point, I realize I couldn't sign into the farebox properly, thus the infamous "probe needed" message.. Now I didn't wanna call the yard and give him the headache of deciding what I should do, so I call up Command, and right before she tells me to let the passengers ride free, she asked what time do I clear (this was around 9:25pm), which was 1:53am, then asked me if I was coming off swing, and told her yes... She told me to bring the bus back to the yard and swap out. Basically it depends on the situation, and being I still had 2 rounds left, and sorta near the depot, she told me to pull it in and write it up. There is a bulletin that out there that says that a bus can not operate in service with out a working fare box. If there is a defect it must be corrected with in one round trip. This went into effect when J Walder come in to ensure we were collecting as much revenue as possible. This is also why we print out a transfer upon pull out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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