East New York Posted April 26, 2011 Share #1 Posted April 26, 2011 Motor Coach Industries - There are many destinations in life. And for communities that want to arrive in a greener place, one with cleaner air and better, more comfortable commuter options, MCI offers a greener alternative. MCI, which brought you the very first hybrid-electric commuter coach, now unveils its next generation. Based on the high-capacity, best-selling D4500, MCI's 45-foot Hybrid uses the latest clean-diesel engine technology from Cummins along with the Allison H 50 EP Electric Drive Propulsion System, delivering impressive power, lower noise levels and significantly reduced carbon emissions. At the same time, passengers sit high above traffic in plush forward-facing, high-back reclining seats with LED reading lamps and overhead airflow controls. It's everything you expect from MCI. Engine: Cummins ISL 8.9 liter, 330hp Transmission: Allison H 50 EP Electric Drive Propulsion System Note: The Ep50 nomenclature has been discontinued http://www.mcicoach.com/public-sector/publicHybrid.htm http://www.mcicoach.com/literatureAssets/specHybrid.pdf Images Courtesy of Motor Coach Industries I would love to see a few of these in NYC!:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted April 26, 2011 Share #2 Posted April 26, 2011 They will not have the ROAR that some of us enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
553 Bridgeton Posted April 26, 2011 Share #3 Posted April 26, 2011 I dont agree with that tranny in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNIGHTRIDER3:16 Posted April 26, 2011 Share #4 Posted April 26, 2011 I like the Exterior /Windows as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted April 26, 2011 Share #5 Posted April 26, 2011 Cummins ISL...? Interested to see how this bus runs with that engine, you know being that its a motor-coach, not a transit bus. Then again hound had MC12s with DD50 in em so maybe it won't be too bad, kinda worried we'd have a another D60 Artic/DD50 issue here with these buses being underpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted April 26, 2011 They will not have the ROAR that some of us enjoy Very true! I bet It's got a smooth ride though. 0058 has the Allison system, and it was real smooth. I dont agree with that tranny in question. What do you mean? Cummins ISL...? Interested to see how this bus runs with that engine, you know being that its a motor-coach, not a transit bus. Then again hound had MC12s with DD50 in em so maybe it won't be too bad, kinda worried we'd have a another D60 Artic/DD50 issue here with these buses being underpowered. It has the Allison H50EP, whereas the regular 40 footers and most 60 footers have the H40EP(formerly the Ep40). The only agency that I know of operating them is Houston Metro. http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4817 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted April 26, 2011 Share #7 Posted April 26, 2011 Okay, where's the battery pack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoSpectacular Posted April 26, 2011 Share #8 Posted April 26, 2011 Okay, where's the battery pack? It'll most likely take up space in the undercarriage, just like the CNG tanks on the CNG models. ...And I sure don't approve of that "transmission" either! Detroit Diesel Series 60 FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted April 26, 2011 Share #9 Posted April 26, 2011 I found it on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MCI+D4500CTH++ride&aq=f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share #10 Posted April 26, 2011 Okay, where's the battery pack? The tan box in the forward compartment are the batteries. The green box is the power center for the A/C. It'll most likely take up space in the undercarriage, just like the CNG tanks on the CNG models. ...And I sure don't approve of that "transmission" either! Detroit Diesel Series 60 FTW! Well yeah, in a perfect world that would be an option! The Allison's and BAE's are mated to the Cummins. And the MCI can't use a BAE, or ISE because they are series hybrids. The Allison Dual Mode Parallel/Series is best for stop-and-go, and express ops at the same time. Series hybrids are only good for local frequent stops, and lower speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 26, 2011 Share #11 Posted April 26, 2011 Coach USA (I think Shortline Division) has a few CTHs, they actually roar but not like the diesels, they sound good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of RedBirds Posted April 26, 2011 Share #12 Posted April 26, 2011 Images Courtesy of Motor Coach Industries I would love to see a few of these in NYC!:cool: The Front Looks Like A J4500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted April 26, 2011 Share #13 Posted April 26, 2011 The Front Looks Like A J4500 J4500s got curvy fronts and different headlights. They look MUCH MORE different compared to these. The Js sorta look more like the E4500s. Compare this to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R22 Shoal Point Posted April 27, 2011 Share #14 Posted April 27, 2011 http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Motor_Coach_Industries_D4500CTH GO Transit Short Line Monsey Trails Transport of Rockland also run the hybrid D4500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BZGuy Posted May 1, 2011 Share #15 Posted May 1, 2011 Aw Cait you had to show that POS 708! J4500 = FAIL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted May 3, 2011 Share #16 Posted May 3, 2011 http://www.cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php?title=Motor_Coach_Industries_D4500CTH GO Transit Short Line Monsey Trails Transport of Rockland also run the hybrid D4500 also Metropolitan Transit Authority of Harris County (METRO) and CT Transit operated them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted May 4, 2011 Share #17 Posted May 4, 2011 also Metropolitan Transit Authority of Harris County (METRO) and CT Transit operated them which CT routes?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted May 10, 2011 Share #18 Posted May 10, 2011 I've been seeing pictures of this lately, and at first, the white lettering on the sign plus the resolution of the font make it look like a rollsign, but on the side it is clear it is glowing. So this is some new LED sign? What kind is that? Is this going to replace amber on transit signs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share #19 Posted May 10, 2011 I've been seeing pictures of this lately, and at first, the white lettering on the sign plus the resolution of the font make it look like a rollsign, but on the side it is clear it is glowing. So this is some new LED sign? What kind is that? Is this going to replace amber on transit signs? Nothing new. LED's are available in White, Blue, Green, Amber, Red, & Purple. Different transit agencies opt for different signs. Majority of them go with amber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted May 11, 2011 Share #20 Posted May 11, 2011 I've been seeing pictures of this lately, and at first, the white lettering on the sign plus the resolution of the font make it look like a rollsign, but on the side it is clear it is glowing. So this is some new LED sign? What kind is that? Is this going to replace amber on transit signs? IIRC those signs are TwinVisions in the white LED version! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted May 11, 2011 Share #21 Posted May 11, 2011 Nothing new. LED's are available in White, Blue, Green, Amber, Red, & Purple. Different transit agencies opt for different signs. Majority of them go with amber.OK; I've just never seen them use white on transportation vehicles. In fact, white only text signs are still fairly rare (The Sony Style store had one, and that's the only one I can even think of right now). I heard it was because of the glare that the red-orange-amber range was preferred. And the font looks so good; it looked like an advancement, to where LED's are just as clear as printed signs. really should look into these for both buses and trains. But they seem fixated on the red and amber only. (They won't even go with color changing route fields on buses, saying the computers don't have the capacity). IIRC those signs are TwinVisions in the white LED version! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share #22 Posted May 11, 2011 OK; I've just never seen them use white on transportation vehicles. In fact, white only text signs are still fairly rare (The Sony Style store had one, and that's the only one I can even think of right now). I heard it was because of the glare that the red-orange-amber range was preferred. And the font looks so good; it looked like an advancement, to where LED's are just as clear as printed signs. really should look into these for both buses and trains. But they seem fixated on the red and amber only. (They won't even go with color changing route fields on buses, saying the computers don't have the capacity). Thanks! Correct. The white is very rare. I think I have only seen it on a transit bus once. As far as the color changing signs, several TA's across the country have them actually. As far as MTA goes, I'm not sure the computers could hold all those routes and color changing options unless it is simplified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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