Turbo19 Posted March 2, 2013 Share #926 Posted March 2, 2013 I don't know why the MTA didn't try to build a new CNG plant at LGA. If LGA had CNG buses and a fueling station, there wouldn't even be a bus shortage at LGA. Is there still reminants of epuipment (pipelines, fueling station/pad) at LGA. It could be attempted if part of the old equipment could be salvaged., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted March 2, 2013 Share #927 Posted March 2, 2013 In terms of flexibility I guess I'd be okay for LGA to have a CNG plant. But I think they'd be more useful if all LGA buses were CNG, not only 29 (or whatever it is) out of 230 or so buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted March 2, 2013 Share #928 Posted March 2, 2013 In terms of flexibility I guess I'd be okay for LGA to have a CNG plant. But I think they'd be more useful if all LGA buses were CNG, not only 29 (or whatever it is) out of 230 or so buses. Agreed. The thought on my end was them just continuing the current C40LF contract to buy buses for LGA, and then once that runs out maybe some XN40 to replace the rest of the RTSes in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted March 2, 2013 Share #929 Posted March 2, 2013 Nopeee...we wont see XN40s...unlesss more depots get CNG...hey...now that Orion is gone...NICE might buy XN40s to retire the O5 CNGs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTA Bus Posted March 2, 2013 Share #930 Posted March 2, 2013 I think NICE is getting C40LFRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted March 2, 2013 Share #931 Posted March 2, 2013 Nopeee...we wont see XN40s...unlesss more depots get CNG...hey...now that Orion is gone...NICE might buy XN40s to retire the O5 CNGs I was referring to XN40s down the road for LGA if they had put in a new CNG filling station there. I should've clarified that. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted March 2, 2013 Share #932 Posted March 2, 2013 Oohh im sorry...i see what u mean, because then the LF model will realy be gone...and the LFR failed...so it leaves the XN40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted March 2, 2013 Share #933 Posted March 2, 2013 So the XD60s are getting ads...on the front! Probably a matter of time till UP/ENY/MJQ put them on as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted March 2, 2013 Share #934 Posted March 2, 2013 On the front?? really! wow! thats gonna look nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted March 2, 2013 Share #935 Posted March 2, 2013 On the front?? really! wow! thats gonna look nice Yep, looks good although they don't look so new with ads. Meant to post in the random thoughts thread...my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted March 2, 2013 Share #936 Posted March 2, 2013 LGA will NEVER get CNG back ever.... period. The CP 0-5s are loaners only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novabus 5000 Posted March 3, 2013 Share #937 Posted March 3, 2013 In terms of flexibility I guess I'd be okay for LGA to have a CNG plant. But I think they'd be more useful if all LGA buses were CNG, not only 29 (or whatever it is) out of 230 or so buses. LGA had a CNG plant, it blew up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted March 3, 2013 Share #938 Posted March 3, 2013 I know. That's what the last few pages have been about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w8Hou Posted March 3, 2013 Share #939 Posted March 3, 2013 Is there still reminants of epuipment (pipelines, fueling station/pad) at LGA. It could be attempted if part of the old equipment could be salvaged., The old equipment was ancient and not up to standard, it already has been removed. Pipeline is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted March 3, 2013 Share #940 Posted March 3, 2013 LGA will NEVER get CNG back ever.... period. The CP 0-5s are loaners only. Yes, it was just an idea. We all realize it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted March 3, 2013 Share #941 Posted March 3, 2013 Yep, looks good although they don't look so new with ads. Meant to post in the random thoughts thread...my bad. It's not too bad. One of them were on the (2)/(3) shuttle today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted March 4, 2013 Share #942 Posted March 4, 2013 In terms of flexibility I guess I'd be okay for LGA to have a CNG plant. But I think they'd be more useful if all LGA buses were CNG, not only 29 (or whatever it is) out of 230 or so buses. I would assume should the situation arise LGA would become 100% CNG. The old equipment was ancient and not up to standard, it already has been removed. Pipeline is still there. Alright, thanks for some feedback. LGA will NEVER get CNG back ever.... period. The CP 0-5s are loaners only. Who said LGA wouldn't be CNG again? And yes, everyone is aware of the CP/LGA loan. Yes, it was just an idea. We all realize it won't happen. Who said it wouldn't? If the MTA was smart they would've rebuilt years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted March 4, 2013 Share #943 Posted March 4, 2013 I would assume should the situation arise LGA would become 100% CNG. Alright, thanks for some feedback. Who said LGA wouldn't be CNG again? And yes, everyone is aware of the CP/LGA loan. Who said it wouldn't? If the MTA was smart they would've rebuilt years ago. Well, they didn't. The explosion scared them. Let's be honest, if they did, the Greg Mockers and the Post would rip them a new one for doing so. (See: Yellow Journalism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obregonmichael5 Posted March 4, 2013 Share #944 Posted March 4, 2013 LGA had a CNG plant, it blew up. this was back in 2006. i was very little but i remember when i heard a BOOM!!!!! Because i live 4 blocks from the LGA Bus Depot and still living there today (except living in a different apt). However, i think that it would best not to build a CNG plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted March 5, 2013 Share #945 Posted March 5, 2013 Well, they didn't. The explosion scared them. Let's be honest, if they did, the Greg Mockers and the Post would rip them a new one for doing so. (See: Yellow Journalism) Screw Mocker and the crap he calls news. And besides, the MTA will eventually see the benefits of using natural gas, even if it takes an entire century into forcing them to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted March 5, 2013 Share #946 Posted March 5, 2013 Damn.. I saw 631 with LED headlights today, with 628 right behind it. Looks wayy better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted March 5, 2013 Share #947 Posted March 5, 2013 Screw Mocker and the crap he calls news. And besides, the MTA will eventually see the benefits of using natural gas, even if it takes an entire century into forcing them to do so. That's not going to happen. The only reason that the MTA got CNG buses in the first place is because the was a government mandate stating that their fleet had to be at least 20% alternatively fueled for them to receive funding for new buses. If it wasn't for that there would be no CNG or hybrid buses in the fleet due to their excessive costs over a comparable plain diesel bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culver Posted March 5, 2013 Share #948 Posted March 5, 2013 Screw Mocker and the crap he calls news. And besides, the MTA will eventually see the benefits of using natural gas, even if it takes an entire century into forcing them to do so. In a century their buses will all be electric. Actually, probably by 2040. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted March 5, 2013 Share #949 Posted March 5, 2013 I suppose I did get somewhat carried there. No matter. For now I continue enjoying the benefits of CNG in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailBus63 Posted March 5, 2013 Share #950 Posted March 5, 2013 That's not going to happen. The only reason that the MTA got CNG buses in the first place is because the was a government mandate stating that their fleet had to be at least 20% alternatively fueled for them to receive funding for new buses. If it wasn't for that there would be no CNG or hybrid buses in the fleet due to their excessive costs over a comparable plain diesel bus. This is not necessarily true anymore due to the rise in oil prices in recent years and the fall in natural gas prices due to the tremendous growth in U.S. domestic gas production. Recent studies are finding that CNG buses are cheaper to operate over the standard 12-year life cycle of a heavy-duty transit bus even when factoring in the higher bus purchase price and the construction and operational cost of a CNG refueling facility. I think the MTA thought they could avoid the capital costs of building CNG refueling facilities by going with hybrid buses but clearly did not expect these would be so costly to operate. The economics of CNG may cause the MTA to chnage its mind again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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