MysteriousBtrain Posted July 9, 2015 Share #3176 Posted July 9, 2015 Due to switch problems at Astoria-Ditmars Blvd, the following service changes are in effect: Southbound trains are running express from Astoria-Ditmars Blvd to Queensboro Plaza. Northbound trains terminate at 57 St-7 Av. Allow additional travel time. Interesting that they just terminating the at 57th street but still sending the to Astoria. They really need to have a entire weekend shutdown on the Astoria portion of the to do the switch work. They always do that whenever the is running express in Queens, planned or unplanned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azspeedbullet Posted July 10, 2015 Share #3177 Posted July 10, 2015 at around 8:50pm, a sick customer on the C train at jay st delaying service for about 20 minutes making some of A trains run local. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted July 10, 2015 Share #3178 Posted July 10, 2015 Service Change Posted: 07/10/2015 12:01AM Due to a track obstruction at Avenue U, southbound trains are running on the line from 36 St (Bklyn) to Coney Island-Stillwell Av. Expect delays on the southbound train service. Allow additional travel time. Guessing Sea beach rehabilitation is starting soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted July 10, 2015 Share #3179 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Who the hell programs the MTA's website? Note the top line. And damn, that change. b/d service changes and delays on the , , and line, due to track maintenance at 135 St. See.mta.info Due to track maintenance at 135 St, the following service changes are in effect: Southbound trains are running local from 168 St to 125 St. Southbound trains are running local from 145 St to 125 St. Northbound trains are running on the line from DeKalb Av to Whitehall St-South Ferry and terminate. Northbound trains are running local from 145 St to Norwood-205 St. Expect delays on , , and train service in both directions. Allow additional travel time. Edited July 10, 2015 by Joel Up Front 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted July 10, 2015 Share #3180 Posted July 10, 2015 Who writes these advisories ? These are simple mistakes that can be avoided. The communications desk at the Rail Control Center. Possibly the most hated and ridiculed people on the entire internet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted July 10, 2015 Share #3181 Posted July 10, 2015 Due to switch problems at 135 St, the following service changes are in effect: Southbound trains are running local from 168 St to 125 St. Southbound trains are running local from 145 St to 125 St. There is no Rockaway Park-bound train service. Northbound trains are running on the line from DeKalb Av to Whitehall St-South Ferry. There is no train service between DeKalb Av and Bedford Pk Blvd in both directions. Northbound trains are running local from 145 St to Norwood-205 St. Expect delays on , , , and train service in both directions. As an alternative customers can take the , , or Rockaway Park Allow additional travel time. It becoming more messy. There is no Rockaway bound and no north of DeKalb. I don't get it what is the hell is going on? Switch problems? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted July 10, 2015 Share #3182 Posted July 10, 2015 3 different problem there today.An investigation,Track Maintenance and Switch problems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted July 10, 2015 Share #3183 Posted July 10, 2015 Maybe they got all linked. First they investigated the problem, then sent track workers there to correct the problem, then the switch went on a fritz (my assumption) If this issue lasts overnight I think they might have to do a weekend work on it. Sending the local to 125th street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3184 Posted July 11, 2015 It is due to a broken switch at 135th street. Still ongoing. The weekend is here so no service and I am not sure if the Rockaway bound service will resume by tomorrow. I don't get why they have to suspend the Rockaway service? Simply send the local from 145th street to 125th street and resume normal express service if the switch is still ongoing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynIRT Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3185 Posted July 11, 2015 I am surprised no one has posted about the R142s on the train earlier. Apparently due to a switch problem at Chambers that fouled up 7th Avenue Line service. I guess they rerouted a couple of and trains to fill service gaps. I know there were huge gaps, like almost 20 minutes or so along the . I only saw one train of R142s, which included 7056-7060, at 225 St-Broadway, and one train of (I believe) Livonia or Lenox R62s at 231 St-Broadway. Those R62s immediately followed the R142s and both trains were going to 242 St-Broadway-VCP. That happened in the early afternoon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3186 Posted July 11, 2015 Maybe they got all linked. First they investigated the problem, then sent track workers there to correct the problem, then the switch went on a fritz (my assumption) If this issue lasts overnight I think they might have to do a weekend work on it. Sending the local to 125th street. Parts of the that switch/track broke from the that switch which is why it was the same problem. What surprises though was they didn't suspend the Entirely. During the PM Only every other Train ran Uptown still due to congestion with trains going into Whitehall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3187 Posted July 11, 2015 Parts of the that switch/track broke from the that switch which is why it was the same problem. What surprises though was they didn't suspend the Entirely. During the PM Only every other Train ran Uptown still due to congestion with trains going into Whitehall. This is another reason for expanding the Eastern Division Stations in Manhattan to handle 10 cars or 600' trains. If they can lift the 75' ban on the Nassau Line in Manhattan, then perhaps you can use the Nassau line in an emergency to re-route trains to, at least to Essex Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3188 Posted July 11, 2015 This is another reason for expanding the Eastern Division Stations in Manhattan to handle 10 cars or 600' trains. If they can lift the 75' ban on the Nassau Line in Manhattan, then perhaps you can use the Nassau line in an emergency to re-route trains to, at least to Essex Street. That ban will never be lifted for as long as there are 75' cars running. Even so, the would still be too long for the entire train to platform 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3189 Posted July 11, 2015 He was saying if they extended the platforms to handle 10 cars. And the barriers to 75 foot cars aren't in Manhattan; they only ban them there because the line leads to the problem areas. With the new track layout, it would have been easier to reroute that way; they would need to extend the platform at Essex St. J1, and then reverse signal J1, and they would just change ends in the station and not have to go out onto the bridge anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3190 Posted July 11, 2015 He was saying if they extended the platforms to handle 10 cars. And the barriers to 75 foot cars aren't in Manhattan; they only ban them there because the line leads to the problem areas. With the new track layout, it would have been easier to reroute that way; they would need to extend the platform at Essex St. J1, and then reverse signal J1, and they would just change ends in the station and not have to go out onto the bridge anymore. Exactly! The idea is that the Nassau Street Line could be used in an emergency if the stations were extended to handle 600' trains (and 75 footers would be in Manhattan ONLY). This can be part of a long-term plan to do that over time on the and line that would allow such trains to run with 10 cars/600' trains (and as it is, those station I believe can platform nine cars and allow such to use those stations, so we are really talking about lengthening the Manhattan stations in most cases I believe by about 60-70 feet tops). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3191 Posted July 11, 2015 Thing is, with so many more pressing issues, it really doesn't make much sense to extend the Nassau St platforms for these relatively rare occurrences. Will the benefits outweigh the high costs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3192 Posted July 11, 2015 Thing is, with so many more pressing issues, it really doesn't make much sense to extend the Nassau St platforms for these relatively rare occurrences. Will the benefits outweigh the high costs? It would be part of a long-term plan to extend ALL of the stations on the Broadway-Brooklyn line in multiple phases: Phase 1 would be the Nassau Street Line stations plus those in Brooklyn that serve the . This would allow the to be 10 cars once that is complete. It would also include reconnecting the Nassau Street Line tracks to the Manhattan Bridge going to Brooklyn ONLY. That would allow for a loop line train that would have a single terminal in Bay Parkway, going via the tunnel to Manhattan and via the Bridge to Brooklyn (stopping at Jay Street and Court Street in Brooklyn and Broad, Fulton and Chambers Street in Manhattan going northbound ONLY before going back to Brooklyn over the bridge as well as allow for situations like what happened with the so it can run via the tunnel and back over the Manny B after Chambers. Phase 2 would be the remaining stations between Myrtle Avenue and Broadway Junction on the Broadway-Brooklyn Line (these would be the stations after the goes to Metropolitan. This would allow for some 10-car short-turn service between Broadway Junction and Manhattan and also allow for 6th or 8th Avenue trains (that are 60' cars) when needed to use the Broadway-Brooklyn line in a re-route, especially the to Broadway Junction in the event that is needed. Phase 3 would be the rest of the stations on the between Broadway Junction and Jamaica Center so the can have 10-car trains at all times and also allow in an emergency for the or run to/from Jamaica Center via QB, Manhattan and Broadway-Brooklyn both ways.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3193 Posted July 11, 2015 It would be part of a long-term plan to extend ALL of the stations on the Broadway-Brooklyn line in multiple phases: Phase 1 would be the Nassau Street Line stations plus those in Brooklyn that serve the . This would allow the to be 10 cars once that is complete. It would also include reconnecting the Nassau Street Line tracks to the Manhattan Bridge going to Brooklyn ONLY. That would allow for a loop line train that would have a single terminal in Bay Parkway, going via the tunnel to Manhattan and via the Bridge to Brooklyn (stopping at Jay Street and Court Street in Brooklyn and Broad, Fulton and Chambers Street in Manhattan going northbound ONLY before going back to Brooklyn over the bridge as well as allow for situations like what happened with the so it can run via the tunnel and back over the Manny B after Chambers. Phase 2 would be the remaining stations between Myrtle Avenue and Broadway Junction on the Broadway-Brooklyn Line (these would be the stations after the goes to Metropolitan. This would allow for some 10-car short-turn service between Broadway Junction and Manhattan and also allow for 6th or 8th Avenue trains (that are 60' cars) when needed to use the Broadway-Brooklyn line in a re-route, especially the to Broadway Junction in the event that is needed. Phase 3 would be the rest of the stations on the between Broadway Junction and Jamaica Center so the can have 10-car trains at all times and also allow in an emergency for the or run to/from Jamaica Center via QB, Manhattan and Broadway-Brooklyn both ways.. No just no 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3194 Posted July 11, 2015 No just no Why not? The idea is operational flexibility, especially when unforeseen emergencies arise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted July 11, 2015 Share #3195 Posted July 11, 2015 Why not? The idea is operational flexibility, especially when unforeseen emergencies arise.Let's hold on to that idea until the R143s, R160s, and R179s are about to be retired since we can't even extended the ENY cars to 10 car sets for obvious reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 12, 2015 Share #3196 Posted July 12, 2015 They actually had the opportunity, as almost all of the stations in almst the whole Eastern Division were renovated (including Nassau, with the xception of Chamber), and they could have extended them then. The problem was Metropolitan, where the switch would have to be moved, but the others could have been done easily, and some even have what looks like the structure work for an extension. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted July 12, 2015 Share #3197 Posted July 12, 2015 When will Wallyhorse stop and take no for an answer... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3198 Posted July 13, 2015 Let's hold on to that idea until the R143s, R160s, and R179s are about to be retired since we can't even extended the ENY cars to 10 car sets for obvious reasons. That's why I do it in three phases or even four with the Manhattan stations first. The Manhattan stations being 600' allow for re-routes of trans from the 4th Avenue and Brighton lines when needed via the tunnel via Nassau and a re-connection of the Nassau Line to the Manny B (Brooklyn-bound side ONLY) for sending back over the Bridge via Nassau when needed (either via emergencies or G.O.'s) as well as G.O.'s that require 6th Avenue trains to use the tunnel and changing directions at Essex. It's been noted before many of those stations used to handle eight 67' cars, so in all likelihood, albeit a tight fit those stations likely could handle nine 60' cars with if necessary minimal additional footage added (meaning you could link a five-car set of R160s with a four-car set of R-160s and run such as nine-car trains) as it is. Main purpose at first is as noted with eventually the plan being all stations being 600 feet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3199 Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) This is another reason for expanding the Eastern Division Stations in Manhattan to handle 10 cars or 600' trains. If they can lift the 75' ban on the Nassau Line in Manhattan, then perhaps you can use the Nassau line in an emergency to re-route trains to, at least to Essex Street. NOBODY can use the Montague-Nassau connection. It's gone and it probably won't be coming back. Keep dreaming. And get that fantasy crap out of this thread. Edited July 13, 2015 by Snowblock 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3200 Posted July 13, 2015 Alright, everyone chill out. Wallyhorse, if you have a proposal, please take it to the proposals thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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