Wallyhorse Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3201 Posted July 13, 2015 Alright, everyone chill out. Wallyhorse, if you have a proposal, please take it to the proposals thread. I was simply responding to the emergency this past week and how THAT can be averted at first. My bad for not moving it to the Proposals Thread, which I have now done, NOBODY can use the Montague-Nassau connection. It's gone and it probably won't be coming back. Keep dreaming. And get that fantasy crap out of this thread. I explained why in the Proposals/Ideas thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3202 Posted July 13, 2015 NOBODY can use the Montague-Nassau connection. It's gone and it probably won't be coming back. Keep dreaming. And get that fantasy crap out of this thread. It's not like they filled it in or something or built something in its way. They didn't complete the Sandy work (like they did ont he main tunnel), and have apparently put it off for some reason, but they should get to it eventually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3203 Posted July 13, 2015 It's not like they filled it in or something or built something in its way. They didn't complete the Sandy work (like they did ont he main tunnel), and have apparently put it off for some reason, but they should get to it eventually. You would think the mess last week would be a good reason to finish that work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3204 Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) That's why I do it in three phases or even four with the Manhattan stations first. The Manhattan stations being 600' allow for re-routes of trans from the 4th Avenue and Brighton lines when needed via the tunnel via Nassau and a re-connection of the Nassau Line to the Manny B (Brooklyn-bound side ONLY) for sending back over the Bridge via Nassau when needed (either via emergencies or G.O.'s) as well as G.O.'s that require 6th Avenue trains to use the tunnel and changing directions at Essex. It's been noted before many of those stations used to handle eight 67' cars, so in all likelihood, albeit a tight fit those stations likely could handle nine 60' cars with if necessary minimal additional footage added (meaning you could link a five-car set of R160s with a four-car set of R-160s and run such as nine-car trains) as it is. Main purpose at first is as noted with eventually the plan being all stations being 600 feet. Note you're creating another problem... ENY has no 5 car 160s. They would have to be borrowed from other places, now leaving them short on cars themselves. So now everyone gonna be running 9 car trains (including trains originally 10 cars) for no reason whatever Seriously, you overthink these things sometimes Edited July 13, 2015 by Fresh Pond 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3205 Posted July 13, 2015 Note you're creating another problem... ENY has no 5 car 160s. They would have to be borrowed from other places, now leaving them short on cars themselves. So now everyone gonna be running 9 car trains (including trains originally 10 cars) for no reason whatever Seriously, you overthink these things sometimes We can always get "C" cars ala R142A/R188 lmao 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3206 Posted July 13, 2015 It's not like they filled it in or something or built something in its way. They didn't complete the Sandy work (like they did ont he main tunnel), and have apparently put it off for some reason, but they should get to it eventually. Fixing the Nassau connection is about 9998 on the list of things that need to be done, especially now that no revenue service uses that tunnel. Unless an extra billion dollars magically appears in the budget, it will continue to sit OOS indefinitely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted July 13, 2015 Share #3207 Posted July 13, 2015 It would be part of a long-term plan to extend ALL of the stations on the Broadway-Brooklyn line in multiple phases: Phase 1 would be the Nassau Street Line stations plus those in Brooklyn that serve the . This would allow the to be 10 cars once that is complete. It would also include reconnecting the Nassau Street Line tracks to the Manhattan Bridge going to Brooklyn ONLY. That would allow for a loop line train that would have a single terminal in Bay Parkway, going via the tunnel to Manhattan and via the Bridge to Brooklyn (stopping at Jay Street and Court Street in Brooklyn and Broad, Fulton and Chambers Street in Manhattan going northbound ONLY before going back to Brooklyn over the bridge as well as allow for situations like what happened with the so it can run via the tunnel and back over the Manny B after Chambers. Phase 2 would be the remaining stations between Myrtle Avenue and Broadway Junction on the Broadway-Brooklyn Line (these would be the stations after the goes to Metropolitan. This would allow for some 10-car short-turn service between Broadway Junction and Manhattan and also allow for 6th or 8th Avenue trains (that are 60' cars) when needed to use the Broadway-Brooklyn line in a re-route, especially the to Broadway Junction in the event that is needed. Phase 3 would be the rest of the stations on the between Broadway Junction and Jamaica Center so the can have 10-car trains at all times and also allow in an emergency for the or run to/from Jamaica Center via QB, Manhattan and Broadway-Brooklyn both ways.. Wally can we please stay on topic. There's a proposal topic for these kind of discussions. Keep it there please. Thank you for understanding. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3208 Posted July 14, 2015 Fixing the Nassau connection is about 9998 on the list of things that need to be done, especially now that no revenue service uses that tunnel. Unless an extra billion dollars magically appears in the budget, it will continue to sit OOS indefinitely. Contractors are currently working down there... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3209 Posted July 14, 2015 Fixing the Nassau connection is about 9998 on the list of things that need to be done, especially now that no revenue service uses that tunnel. Unless an extra billion dollars magically appears in the budget, it will continue to sit OOS indefinitely. Like what has to be done with it? The bulk of the work was in the main Montague tunnel, this was just a connecting branch. Billions, for real? There's no revenue service, but nonrevenue moves have to go up to W4 and reverse, in the middle of thru IND traffic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3210 Posted July 14, 2015 Wally can we please stay on topic. There's a proposal topic for these kind of discussions. Keep it there please. Thank you for understanding. I did, in part because it unintentionally morphed in here. I moved it to that thread when that happened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3211 Posted July 14, 2015 Due to a train with mechanical problems at Queensboro Plaza, southbound , and Times Sq bound trains are running with delays. Allow additional travel time. I'm confused. Which line has the problem train? I know that the is going through fastrack. Possiblity the Astoria bound is having problems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3212 Posted July 14, 2015 Due to a train with mechanical problems at Queensboro Plaza, southbound , and Times Sq bound trains are running with delays. Allow additional travel time. I'm confused. Which line has the problem train? I know that the is going through fastrack. Possiblity the Astoria bound is having problems. It was a Work Train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3213 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Oh damn, 7th Avenue is a hot mess now (edit: it was resolved quickly): Service Change Posted: 07/14/2015 12:08PM Due to switch problems at 96 St, the following service changes are in effect: Northbound trains are running express from Chambers St to 96 St. There is no northbound train service from 96 St to Wakefield-241 St. There is no northbound train service from to 96 St. to Harlem-148 St. Some southbound trains are terminating at E 180 St or 149 St-Grand Concourse. Northbound trains are running on the line from Nevins St to 149 St-Grand Concourse. Some northbound and train service are terminating at 137 St or Van Cortlandt Park-242 St. Customers are advised to use , , , train service or M5, M7 or M20 bus making nearby stops. Allow additional travel time. Edited July 14, 2015 by paulrivera 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3214 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) That building collpase on Fulton was pretty nasty. http://7online.com/news/3-injured-in-multi-story-building-collapse-in-brooklyn/850869/ Due to switch problems at Broadway Junction, trains are running local between Broadway Junction and Utica Av in both directions. Allow additional travel time. Service Change Posted: 07/14/2015 3:47PM Due to a building collapse on Fulton St, the following service changes are in effect: trains are running with delays in both directions. trains are bypassing Kingston-Throop Avs in both directions. As an alternative customers can take the B25 bus. Allow additional travel time. E Edited July 14, 2015 by Joel Up Front 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3215 Posted July 14, 2015 That building collpase on Fulton was pretty nasty. http://7online.com/news/3-injured-in-multi-story-building-collapse-in-brooklyn/850869/ Due to switch problems at Broadway Junction, trains are running local between Broadway Junction and Utica Av in both directions. Allow additional travel time. Service Change Posted: 07/14/2015 3:47PM Due to a building collapse on Fulton St, the following service changes are in effect: trains are running with delays in both directions. trains are bypassing Kingston-Throop Avs in both directions. As an alternative customers can take the B25 bus. Allow additional travel time. E Building collapsed outside. The street had to be evacuated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3216 Posted July 14, 2015 Thankfully, there were no deaths. I guess it's a good thing I took the LIRR home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted July 14, 2015 Share #3217 Posted July 14, 2015 That collapse could have been WAY worse than it was. They are lucky the street was relatively quiet or we could have seen many serious injuries if not worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted July 15, 2015 Share #3218 Posted July 15, 2015 Service Change Posted: 07/14/2015 10:03PM Due to track maintenance at 5 Av-59 St, the following service changes are in effect: , and trains are running with delays in both directions. Some northbound trains are running on the line from 57 St-7 Av to 36 St (QNS). Allow additional travel time. Should it be removed since it fasttrack period right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted July 15, 2015 Share #3219 Posted July 15, 2015 Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 2:21PM Due to a train with mechanical problems at Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av, southbound and trains are running local from Forest Hills-71 Av to Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av. Allow additional travel time. Why don't they send the and Express on the Local? Hold the local at 71st and let the & go first? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrivera Posted July 15, 2015 Share #3220 Posted July 15, 2015 Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 2:21PM Due to a train with mechanical problems at Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av, southbound and trains are running local from Forest Hills-71 Av to Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av. Allow additional travel time. Why don't they send the and Express on the Local? Hold the local at 71st and let the & go first? Not with 20+ trains per hour on one track. That's a train every two minutes or less, which is basically max capacity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 15, 2015 Share #3221 Posted July 15, 2015 Not with 20+ trains per hour on one track. That's a train every two minutes or less, which is basically max capacity. Agreed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alekr Posted July 15, 2015 Share #3222 Posted July 15, 2015 Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 5:15PM Due to signal problems at 5 Av-59 St, the following service changes are in effect: Southbound , and trains are running with delays. Some southbound trains are running on the line from 36 St (QNS) to 57 St-7Av. Allow additional travel time. I hope that they won't cut the service to/from Astoria. They tend to do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 15, 2015 Share #3223 Posted July 15, 2015 Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 5:45PM Due to signal problems at Avenue H, northbound trains are running local from Kings Hwy to Prospect Park. Allow additional travel time. I hope that they won't cut the service to/from Astoria. They tend to do it. Yeah, it helps to re-route the over the 63rd than to reduce service to/from Astoria. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted July 15, 2015 Share #3224 Posted July 15, 2015 Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 6:48PM Due to an NYPD investigation of customer injury at 59 St, southbound trains are running express from 125 St to Grand Central-42 St. Expect delays on southbound , and train service. Allow additional travel time. Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 7:21PM Due to switch problems at Bay Ridge-95 St, southbound trains terminate at 86 St (BKLYN). As an alternative customers can take the B16, B37 or B63. Allow additional travel time. Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 7:08PM Due to a train with mechanical problems at 28 St, northbound and trains are running express from Canal St to 34 St-Herald Sq. Expect delays on the . Allow additional travel time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3216068E Posted July 15, 2015 Share #3225 Posted July 15, 2015 Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 6:48PM Due to an NYPD investigation of customer injury at 59 St, southbound trains are running express from 125 St to Grand Central-42 St. Expect delays on southbound , and train service. Allow additional travel time. Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 7:21PM Due to switch problems at Bay Ridge-95 St, southbound trains terminate at 86 St (BKLYN). As an alternative customers can take the B16, B37 or B63. Allow additional travel time. Service Change Posted: 07/15/2015 7:08PM Due to a train with mechanical problems at 28 St, northbound and trains are running express from Canal St to 34 St-Herald Sq. Expect delays on the . Allow additional travel time. I'm wonder how things are going to be like when the returns 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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