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15 hours ago, Calvin said:

I feel like the weekday (B)(W) and (Z) lines may continue on after this week, the suspension. But who knows if it'll resume service by the spring season or after the holidays of 2021-2022..

For now, most routes are still on weekday headways like the (Q), (5) except the (F) 

I think the headways are:

(1)(2)(4)(E)(L) - roughly weekday service but with some cancellations and no 179 St (E) trips I think.

 

(3) - Weekend headways

(5) - normal weekday (with a few cancellations)

(6) - midday levels of service (and all trains going to/from Pelham Bay Park)

(7) - about 70% of service (all trains local, but the short-turns at Mets Willets Point and put-ins at 111 St are still there.

(A) - about 70% of service (no Rockaway service)

(C) - weekend service levels mostly

(D) - roughly weekend service headways

(F) - about 50% of service (similar to what was seen between June 2020 and May 2021 - trains every 8-12 minutes, no <F> or Kings Highway trips)

(G) - roughly weekend service levels

(J) - weekend service levels

(L) - about 70% weekday service

(M) - about every 12-15 minutes throughout the day (but the full route)

(N) - ??? hard to say considering its schedule. Most of the route about every 8 minutes, but departures from Astoria are less consistent due to the 96 St trips still present

(Q) - about every 10-12 minutes

(R) - weekend service levels with a couple of extra trains here and there.

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10 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Interesting, I wonder if it's COVID related or some thing.

Stations Skipped

(M)trains are bypassing Forest Av in both directions while we perform station cleaning.

For service to/from Forest Av, consider using Q58 bus service.

Posted: 01/08/2022 04:21PM

 

I'm guessing this is for snow and ice removal. My take.  Carry on. 

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The weekday service reductions we saw last week are going into effect again this week:

No (B)(W)(Z) 

No <6><7> Express service,

No Bronx Express <D> (due to the no (B) trains), No Rockaway Park <A> trips

No Culver Express <F> trips or Kings Highway runs (trains every 8-12 minutes all day)

Reduced frequencies on mostly every other route

 

Considering this, maybe they should run a bland schedule where trains run "every X number of minutes" rather than focus on a schedule. I know this sounds redundant, but on some routes where "trains are operating as often as they can due to train crew availability", operating "normal weekday" service  actually hinders service on some routes.

 

Example:

The split (A) train could do better if they just alternated departures from 207 St more stringently during rush hours (one Rockaway, one Lefferts, etc.) rather than having some instances of two trips to one of the terminal in succession. Let us assume one trip to Far Rockaway doesn't run, but following that  trip, two trips to Lefferts Blvd run. Then you have created a 40+ minute gap for service to Far Rockaway. A better solution  for this  issue on thee (A) would be to just run service every 8 minutes between 207 St and Rockaway Blvd, alternating between terminals stringently.

Example 2:  

The (N) train runs "every 7 minutes" during rush hours, but there are some 96 St trips ( (Q) via Sea Beach) included. If a trip doesn't run to Astoria, immediately preceding or following the 96 St trip, 25 minute gap in service instantly. This has been happening more often during the PM rush hour,  because in between those scheduled 96 St trips, there are normally 2 or even 3 (W) trains scheduled to come between the flanking Astoria (N) trains. To solve this issue, just run the (N) on the Astoria branch every 8 minutes (again, taking train crew availability into account), and any 96 St trips, just squeeze in between the 8-minute headways, for example:

4:30PM Astoria departure from Coney Island/86 St,

4:38PM Astoria,

4:45PM Astoria,

4:48PM 96 St

4:52PM Astoria

5:00PM Astoria

etc.

Notice the 96 St trip is squeezed in-between two evenly spaced (N) trips to Astoria, rather than having the 4:52PM trip being a 96 St  trip and leaving the potential for a large Astoria service gap.

 

The (5) train during the PM rush sounds like it runs evenly enough, but I can assume there are instances where the Dyre Av branch has 20+ minute train gaps due to missing crews. The Nereid Av branch doesn't suffer as much because they have the (2) train, and those (5) trips to 238 St go straight to the yard anyways. This is actually part of the issue because if X number of trains leave Nereid Av, that same X number of trains eventually have to return, limiting the number of trains that can stay in service after the PM rush, unless there are spontaneous midday moves  to fill in the yard slots to maintain regular service to Dyre Av.

 

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3 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Power is being removed at Times Square. There's a chance if things don't clear up soon that (Q) trains could be going via 6th Avenue. The R32 trip left Brighton Beach a few minutes ago.

 

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(N)(Q)(R)trains are delayed in both directions while we remove third rail power to allow NYPD to respond to an unauthorized person on the tracks at 42 St.

Posted: 01/09/2022 05:23PM

 

EDIT: Looks like it might be going via 6th Avenue

Trains Rerouted

(N)(Q)(R)trains are delayed and/rerouted while we remove third rail power to allow NYPD to respond to an unauthorized person on the tracks at Times Sq-42 St.

(Q) trains are rerouted on the (D) and (F) lines in both directions between DeKalb Av and Lexington Av/63 St.

(R) trains are rerouted on the (D) and (F) lines in both directions between DeKalb Av and 36 St in Queens.

(N) trains are delayed in both directions.

For service to/from nearby Broadway line stations, take nearby (1)(4)(5)(6)(D)(F) lines.

Posted: 01/09/2022 05:37PM

 

 

 

Rough day for the Broadway line:

Trains Rerouted

(N)(Q)(R)trains are delayed and/or rerouted while emergency teams are responding to someone who was struck by a train at ‌8 St-NYU‌.

(Q) and (R) trains are rerouted on the (D) and (F) lines in both directions between DeKalb Av and Lexington Av/63 St/36 St in Queens.

Astoria-bound (N) trains are ending at Whitehall St-South Ferry where they will turn back towards Coney Island-Stillwell Av.

Posted: 01/09/2022 09:07PM

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On 1/9/2022 at 9:18 PM, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Rough day for the Broadway line:

Trains Rerouted

(N)(Q)(R)trains are delayed and/or rerouted while emergency teams are responding to someone who was struck by a train at ‌8 St-NYU‌.

(Q) and (R) trains are rerouted on the (D) and (F) lines in both directions between DeKalb Av and Lexington Av/63 St/36 St in Queens.

Astoria-bound (N) trains are ending at Whitehall St-South Ferry where they will turn back towards Coney Island-Stillwell Av.

Posted: 01/09/2022 09:07PM

And they didn't think to run SOME (N) trains between Astoria AND EITHER 60th/Lex, 57th, 42nd or 34th Street?

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2 hours ago, Wallyhorse said:

And they didn't think to run SOME (N) trains between Astoria AND EITHER 60th/Lex, 57th, 42nd or 34th Street?

That could have been possible but there was probably a long backup of trains along Broadway, leaving the downtown express track @ 34 St Herald Square unavailable to exclusively turn around (N) trains. Some (Q) and (R) trains probably had to be reversed in a similar fashion (if possible), while others just sat there until the incident was resolved. At the time, Astoria was probably left without any trains running on it, or if anything, the shuttle service between Ditmars Blvd & Queensboro Plaza. 

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Hmmm... 

Local to Express

(D)(N)(R) trains are delayed/rerouted because of a work train with a mechanical problem at Union St.

Northbound (D)(N)(R) trains are running express from 36 St to Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr.

For service to/from bypassed stations, use southbound local service.

Posted: 01/12/2022 10:05PM

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On 1/15/2022 at 12:02 PM, Lawrence St said:

A lady was pushed in front of an (N) at Times Sq today and sadly died. RIP. Suspect is in custody. 
 

be safe out there!

Here's a couple of articles about it. This is so sad. What's infuriating is that not one of the stories I found mentioned the obvious solution to prevent such incidents (and suicides) in the future: platform edge doors. Only "increased police presence" and vague references to helping the homeless community (the suspect was homeless) were mentioned as responses to this murder. But police can't be on every platform at all times and not all 12-9s involve the homeless. The MTA will never install platform edge doors unless there's significant public pressure for them because of the MTA's legendary resistance to change and the ever present "it's too expensive" excuse. Local media should at least mention platform doors as a possible solution when reporting about 12-9s, not just ask random riders "if they feel safe" after such incidents in order to get a quick soundbite. 

https://abc7ny.com/woman-killed-subway-push-times-square-man-arrested/11471944/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp33VvYKd0k 

Irrelevant but this quote is definitely.... something: ""People jump when they try to finish their life themselves, it's okay, but to do it this way, it's crazy," subway rider Julia Avramenko said."

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Hmm... I'm guessing they're running trains through the yard? 

Part Suspended

(D)(N)(R) trains are significantly delayed in both directions while we address a signal problem near Prospect Av.

There is no (N) service south of 36 St in Brooklyn; Southbound (N) trains are running on the (Q) line and northbound (N) trains are running on the (D) line.

For service in South Brooklyn, consider transferring between crosstown bus routes and nearby subway lines. Follow this link to see a map of crosstown bus options. Find arriving buses near you at bt.mta.info and see a station agent for a courtesy pass to continue your trip.

Some (D) and (N) trains are running along the local track in both directions between 59 St/ 36 St and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr.

Posted: 01/16/2022 01:07PM

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The issue persists, and they're claiming it's some sort of power loss (which is only affecting the express tracks).

Some Reroutes

(D)(N)(R)trains are significantly delayed while we address a Con Edison loss of power near Prospect Av.

(D)(N)(R) trains are bypassing 4 Av-9 St in both directions.

For service to/from 4 Av-9 St, take B37, B61, B63 or B103 buses.

Some (D) and (N) trains are running on the local track in both directions between 59 St / 36 St and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr.

Some southbound (D) trains are ending at either 34 St-Herald Sq or 2 Av on the (F) line to turn back for northbound service.

S‌ome (N) trains are running on the (Q) line in both directions between Coney Island-Stillwell Av and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr.

Expect delays in (F) and (Q) service from congestion caused by the rerouted trains.

For service in South Brooklyn, consider transferring between crosstown bus routes and nearby subway lines.

Follow this link to see a map of crosstown bus options. Find arriving buses near you at bt.mta.info and see a station agent for a courtesy pass to continue your trip.

Posted: 01/16/2022 05:12PM

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3 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

S‌ome (N) trains are running on the (Q) line in both directions between Coney Island-Stillwell Av and Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr.

Contradicting that, northbound (Q) trains are running on the (N) line from Coney Island to DeKalb Av while our crews work to correct a signal problem at Brighton Beach.

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1 hour ago, Lil 57 said:

Contradicting that, northbound (Q) trains are running on the (N) line from Coney Island to DeKalb Av while our crews work to correct a signal problem at Brighton Beach.

It has been updated:

Trains Rerouted

Manhattan-bound (Q) trains are running on the (N) line from Coney Island to DeKalb Av while our crews work to correct a signal problem at Brighton Beach.

For service to/from bypassed stations, take a Coney Island-bound (Q) train.

Some Coney Island-bound ‌‌(Q) trains will end at Kings Hwy to turn for Manhattan-bound service along the line in Brooklyn.

Posted: 01/16/2022 07:04PM

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40 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

It has been updated:

Trains Rerouted

Manhattan-bound (Q) trains are running on the (N) line from Coney Island to DeKalb Av while our crews work to correct a signal problem at Brighton Beach.

For service to/from bypassed stations, take a Coney Island-bound (Q) train.

Some Coney Island-bound ‌‌(Q) trains will end at Kings Hwy to turn for Manhattan-bound service along the line in Brooklyn.

Posted: 01/16/2022 07:04PM

The Manhattan bound local track is actually closed at Ocean Pkwy and Brighton Beach this weekend. Trains were stopping on the express track at Ocean Parkway and Brighton Beach before switching back to the local track before Sheepshead Bay. I wouldn't be surprised if this switch is involved in the signal problem they're talking about.

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Well, this is awkward:

Delays

Northbound (F) trains are running on the (A) line from Jay St-MetroTech to W 4 St-Wash Sq.

NYPD responds to an unauthorized person on the tracks at York St.

For service to/from bypassed stations, take a southbound local train.

Posted: 01/17/2022 11:45PM

 

Delays

(A)(E) trains are delayed while NYPD responds to reports of an unauthorized individual on the tracks at W 4 St-Wash Sq.

Posted: 01/17/2022 11:44PM

 

 

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^^^ So it apparently did not evolve. Cool.

On another note, interesting that they specified that one train ran express (below). They've never done that IIRC:

 

Delays

Southbound (2)(3) trains are running with delays after we requested EMS assistance for a passenger on board a train at Franklin Av-Medgar Evers College.

One southbound (3) train ran express from Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr to Franklin Av-Medgar Evers College.

Posted: 01/24/2022 08:17PM

 

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2 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

^^^ So it apparently did not evolve. Cool.

On another note, interesting that they specified that one train ran express (below). They've never done that IIRC:

 

Delays

Southbound (2)(3) trains are running with delays after we requested EMS assistance for a passenger on board a train at Franklin Av-Medgar Evers College.

One southbound (3) train ran express from Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr to Franklin Av-Medgar Evers College.

Posted: 01/24/2022 08:17PM

 

Noticed something like that earlier when it said one (R) train ran via the Manhattan Bridge due to something at Whitehall Street.

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