Planned Subway Service Changes

[Kamen Rider]

2 hours ago, Kingsbridgeviewer382 said:

That happened nearly 5 years ago when  service was cut for a few weekends south of 96th Street.  Trains were sent to 145th to supplement service in Manhattan.

There was also a GO those two weekends taking out T1/B5 track from the 63rd street cut down through to 47-50th, so 96th and 57th were out of the question anyway.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

I also remember just before the covid lockdowns, the  was extended to 168th Street, but it was to replace the  train for some reason that's blanking on me at this point. What I do know is that it was the circumstances of that particular G.O. which led to that service pattern. This was also when the  was regularly going to 96th on weekends. 

Either way, getting the involved in something that has nothing to do with it is unwarranted. Even if the operate every 10 or so minutes on weekends, that means that Astoria riders would be seeing less service than what's proposed under the G.O., if you split up the route to two terminals. That's not to prioritize Astoria riders over everyone else, it's just that there's a lot going on simultaneously. Given everything else that's going on, the 15 minute headway is the least bad scenario.

Edited March 30 by BM5 via Woodhaven

[Kingsbridgeviewer382]

34 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

I also remember just before the covid lockdowns, the  was extended to 168th Street, but it was to replace the  train for some reason that's blanking on me at this point. What I do know is that it was the circumstances of that particular G.O. which led to that service pattern. This was also when the  was regularly going to 96th on weekends. 

Either way, getting the involved in something that has nothing to do with it is unwarranted. Even if the operate every 10 or so minutes on weekends, that means that Astoria riders would be seeing less service than what's proposed under the G.O., if you split up the route to two terminals. That's not to prioritize Astoria riders over everyone else, it's just that there's a lot going on simultaneously. Given everything else that's going on, the 15 minute headway is the least bad scenario.

IIRC, work was being done south of 59th as the  ran via the  from 59th to West 4th and  Trains ran via the  to Whitehall. The GO was on March 13-16, 2020, just before the stay at home order was implemented.

[darkstar8983]

10 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

I also remember just before the covid lockdowns, the  was extended to 168th Street, but it was to replace the  train for some reason that's blanking on me at this point. What I do know is that it was the circumstances of that particular G.O. which led to that service pattern. This was also when the  was regularly going to 96th on weekends. 

Either way, getting the involved in something that has nothing to do with it is unwarranted. Even if the operate every 10 or so minutes on weekends, that means that Astoria riders would be seeing less service than what's proposed under the G.O., if you split up the route to two terminals. That's not to prioritize Astoria riders over everyone else, it's just that there's a lot going on simultaneously. Given everything else that's going on, the 15 minute headway is the least bad scenario.

The  to 168 St GO was because 8 Av was closed, and the  all had to run via 6 Av, with the  all sharing the local track between 34 St and W 4 St. The ran via Broadway to Whitehall St. Since the   was needed on 6 Av due to the  train work, and 3 routes were needed on CPW, they combined the  and  into the  to 168’St and the  had to run local in Brooklyn to make room. No more than 15-17 TPH on a single track on weekends.

Edited March 31 by darkstar8983

[Lawrence St]

Does anyone know what they're doing that's causing late night service to be rerouted in such a weird way that NB service runs from 2nd Av to 36th St via 8th Av and SB runs from 36th to 2nd Av via 6th Av?

[darkstar8983]

4 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Does anyone know what they're doing that's causing late night service to be rerouted in such a weird way that NB service runs from 2nd Av to 36th St via 8th Av and SB runs from 36th to 2nd Av via 6th Av?

Probably two work zones:

1. 53 St Tunnel (hence the via 63 St / 6 Av reroute). 
2. work at World Trade Center, or the West 4 St switch southbound can’t be used. Northbound there’s likely no work going on, so the  can resume regular service via 8 Av after West 4 St

[Calvin]

Starting Friday, April 19th at 9:45 PM up to Monday, April 29th at 5 AM, the  will not run along the Esplande (between Morris Park and Dyre Av). 

trains runs between E 180 St and Flatbush Av (weekdays) or Bowling Green (evenings and weekends). Midnight 5-car Shuttle service will be cancelled at that time. 

Weekday express rush hour service will continue to run in peak direction in the Bronx, with some trains operating to/from Nereid Av.

This G/O will happen as they are replacing tracks. 

 

* The Shuttle bus will be known as the Bx90 

E 180 St stop -> Morris Park Ave at E 180 St

Morris Park 
Bx90 Morris Park Ave at Hone Ave

Bx90 Williamsbridge Rd at Neill Ave

Pelham Pkwy 
Bx90 Williamsbridge Rd at Pelham Pkwy South

Bx90 Williamsbridge Rd at Pelham Pkwy North

Bx12 to Pelham Pkwy  station - Pelham Pkwy North at Williamsbridge Rd

Gun Hill Rd 
Bx90 Gun Hill Rd at DeWitt Pl (to E 180 St)

Bx90 Gun Hill Rd at Knapp St (to Dyre Av)

Bx28/Bx38 to Gun Hill Rd  station - Gun Hill Rd at Seymour Ave

Baychester Av 
Bx90 Boston Rd at Baychester Ave or Bx30 to Pelham Pkwy  station

Eastchester - Dyre Av stop ->  Dyre Ave at Light St

Transfer: Bx16 to Nereid Av station 

 

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

Bunch of Memorial Day weekend planned work:

: downtown trains skips 137-City College, 125 St, 116-Columbia, 110 St, and 103 St

: No trains between Franklin Av and Flatbush Av. Trains operate via the  after Franklin Av to/from Utica Av. Additionally, Utica Av-bound trains operate express from Atlantic-Barclays to Utica Av

: No trains between Chambers St and New Lots Av. Trains operate via the  after Chambers St to/from Rector St. I assume late nights service to/from Times Sq-42 remains the same however.

: Trains operate to/from New Lots Av all weekend. Additionally, New Lots Av-bound trains run express from Atlantic-Barclays to Utica Av, while Manhattan-bound trains operate local from Utica Av to Atlantic-Barclays

/: Downtown trains skips 50 St, 23 St, and Spring St

: Trains run via the  in both directions from 21-Queensbridge to 2 Av. Additionally, Jamaica-bound trains operate local from Roosevelt Av to Forest Hills-71. Late night local trains run express from Roosevelt Av to 21-Queensbridge

: No trains between Kings Hwy and Coney Island. Additionally, Jamaica-bound trains operate local from Roosevelt Av to Forest Hills-71. Late night local trains run express from Roosevelt Av to 21-Queensbridge

: All weekend, trains operate from Metropolitan Av to Essex St, then via the  to/from Broad St

: No trains between Crescent St and Broad St. Trains only operates between Jamaica Center and Crescent St.

: No trains between Myrtle-Wyckoff and Canarsie-Rockaway Pkwy. Trains operate between 8 Av-14 St and Myrtle-Wyckoff

: Trains run local in both directions from DeKalb Av and 59 St

: Manhattan-bound trains run express from Roosevelt Av to Queens Plaza

[Kamen Rider]

first weekend of June, more full length M to 96th. this time the L is only going to Myrtle Wyckoff. 

[Kingsbridgeviewer382]

There's an evening/late night service change coming up for the  on May 20-24 and May 28-31.  Trains will be suspended between 96th St & Dyckman St. The  is split in two: South Ferry to 148th St  Station and between Dyckman St & Van Cortlandt. Three shuttle buses will run: 1 between 96th & Dyckman via Broadway. The second runs between 168th & 191st via St Nicholas. The third is a shuttle connecting the Dyckman St  Station with the  Train station at Broadway.

Also,  Trains will only run in Manhattan for another weekend (June 1st-2nd).

One more note as it wasn't brought up here:  Trains to Flushing will skip 82nd & 111th officially starting Monday (Though there is a GO starting later tonight where Flushing trains are running express from 74th St) until Q1 2025 (Subject to change).

[Calvin]

The Rockaway Park Shuttle will run between Rockaway Park and up to Far Rockaway for this upcoming weekend and the next. 

Shuttle buses for those weekends: 

1. Far Rockaway  buses run nonstop between Rockaway Blvd and Mott Av‌. -> Express Shuttle bus. 

2. Rockaway Blvd  buses run between Rockaway Blvd and Beach 67 St making stops at Beach 90 St and Broad Channel.

3. Howard Beach  buses run between Rockaway Blvd and Howard Beach-JFK Airport making stops at Aqueduct Racetrack and Aqueduct-N Conduit Av.

Transfer between and the Shuttle buses at Rockaway Blvd. 

Transfer between the Shuttle buses and  at Mott Av‌ , Beach 67 St  and/or Beach 90 St. 

LIRR will accommodate subway riders traveling between Brooklyn and Queens for no additional cost at Atlantic Terminal, Nostrand Av, East New York and Jamaica. Check LIRR service and schedules.

Edited May 6 by Calvin

[Kriston Lewis]

On 4/29/2024 at 2:38 PM, CyclonicTrainLookout said:

: No trains between Myrtle-Wyckoff and Canarsie-Rockaway Pkwy. Trains operate between 8 Av-14 St and Myrtle-Wyckoff

This one is interesting - overnight service is scheduled to operate every 12 minutes during the GO.

[Kamen Rider]

I just remembered… I have a picked holiday job on the L on Memorial Day…

Oh goody…

 

let’s see what curve balls this throws me.

 

[Kamen Rider]

the first and third weekends in June is more M to 96th action. This time no L west of Myrtle-Wyckoff

 

[Kingsbridgeviewer382]

So the  Franklin shuttle won't run for three straight weekends (June 14-17, 21-24, 28-July 1st)

Also,  Train service is being split for the weekend of June 21-24. It will run between Astoria & Queensboro in Queens and between Times Square & Coney Island.  Trains are running local in Manhattan, and  trains are running on the  line from 57th St-7th Ave to Queensbridge that same weekend.

[Kingsbridgeviewer382]

During the last weekend of June (28th-29th),  Trains are running to Dyre Avenue while  Trains are terminating at East 180th Street. Free shuttle buses will replace  train service from East 180th St to Wakefield.

For two straight weekends (June 28th-July 1st and July 5th-8th),  Trains are terminating at the 9th Avenue  Train station. Shuttle buses are running from 36th St to 95th Street. A note that only downtown  Trains will serve 45th & 53rd St as downtown  Trains are running local from DeKalb Ave + uptown trains are running express. The late night  will not run during this G.O.

A note for riders that use the Yankee Stadium stop: The transfer will be an out-of-system transfer a la 59th St. Riders will have to use their MetroCard/OMNY transfer to change between  Trains and  Trains at the station starting tomorrow until sometime next year. The escalators and staircases that are used to transfer between the two are being replaced.

[Kamen Rider]

this coming week, Fastrak on North Culver (Bergen to Church) and Crosstown Lines will result in Foxs to/from Hoyt, long relaying via A5. It's a little ambiguous if the trains will remain in service to Hoyt or what... but it definitely says they will enter service going northbound there. 

[Lawrence St]

1 hour ago, Kamen Rider said:

this coming week, Fastrak on North Culver (Bergen to Church) and Crosstown Lines will result in Foxs to/from Hoyt, long relaying via A5. It's a little ambiguous if the trains will remain in service to Hoyt or what... but it definitely says they will enter service going northbound there. 

Any update on when they are going to do another to Lefferts and to Coney Island G.O's again?

[Kamen Rider]

I don’t know (and to my knowledge it was F to Euclid) but I do know this… another day, more screwing around with the M. Now ending even earlier… 8PM starting with the new pick and the G GO.

[RestrictOnTheHanger]

7 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

I don’t know (and to my knowledge it was F to Euclid) but I do know this… another day, more screwing around with the M. Now ending even earlier… 8PM starting with the new pick and the G GO.

Why is the schedule changing? More work train movements along QBL? Granted the last trains to/from Forest Hills leave the terminals around 8:30PM so it's not a huge change but still...

[Kamen Rider]

if I had to hazard a guess, yeah, work trains.  Starts July 1 goes to August 9, which coincides with the two northern phases of the G reconstruction. It is listed in the planed service changes on the main public website, which they update 30 days in advance.

under the baseline schedule we used to pick, my last train of the day would be the last Forest Hills relay for service back to Metropolitan, every train behind me lays up. With the end of through M service pushed half an hour or so earlier, at the very least my last trip would probably become a layup… or the trip might not run at all.
 

the new pick eliminated a lot of trip and half and “less than 8 hour” jobs on the M, I guess we’ll see what happens.

[CyclonicTrainLookout]

On 6/3/2024 at 11:08 AM, Kamen Rider said:

if I had to hazard a guess, yeah, work trains.  Starts July 1 goes to August 9, which coincides with the two northern phases of the G reconstruction. It is listed in the planed service changes on the main public website, which they update 30 days in advance.

under the baseline schedule we used to pick, my last train of the day would be the last Forest Hills relay for service back to Metropolitan, every train behind me lays up. With the end of through M service pushed half an hour or so earlier, at the very least my last trip would probably become a layup… or the trip might not run at all.
 

the new pick eliminated a lot of trip and half and “less than 8 hour” jobs on the M, I guess we’ll see what happens.

I do like to add on to this in that E and F nightly local service begins earlier at 8:30 pm in both directions from June 28 to August 9 for probably the same reasons (and as alternative service to local stations for the G suspensions).

[darkstar8983]

They keep this up and the  will be completely axed from Queens Blvd

[Kamen Rider]

It’s sort of a necessary evil. Our trains are not based out of Jamaica, so they would prioritize thier own equipment and operations over ours. 

[darkstar8983]

20 hours ago, Kamen Rider said:

It’s sort of a necessary evil. Our trains are not based out of Jamaica, so they would prioritize thier own equipment and operations over ours. 

They should at least keep  service on 6 Av running a bit later, because it’s a slippery slope. Cutting off trips at the end of the service span will then lead to further cuts because people will try to avoid missing the last train of the evening.