East New York 4,046 #1 Posted September 6, 2008 So here's some news about Bee-Line's new "Cat Daddy." As we all know, Bee has 39 2008 Orion V Suburbans on order. The new buses will be powered by the powerful Caterpillar C13 ACERT and Allison B500R. The Cat engine is a in-line 6 cylinder, 4-stroke diesel, that has slightly improved fuel economy over its competitors. It's rated at about 345 horses, and sound like it can kill a Cummins in a take-off! 801 is delivered, and about 20 more should be coming in soon. I'll keep you all posted! Also looks like the official #'s will be 801-839 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pablo M 201 35 #2 Posted September 6, 2008 Thanks for the update. Get your Bee Line MCI pictures while you can, those will be going quick fast after more O5s start coming in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 27 #3 Posted September 6, 2008 Wait a minute...An Orion packing a Caterpillar? This is madness! :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East New York 4,046 #4 Posted September 6, 2008 Wait a minute...An Orion packing a Caterpillar? This is madness! :eek: Oh yeah!! And it's packin'! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfAllBuses 3 #5 Posted September 8, 2008 I was kinda hoping that beeline would get some MCI D4500s in its fleet, but it would be awsome to see some one door suburban Orion V buses in its fleet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOB2RTO 29 #6 Posted September 12, 2008 I was kinda hoping that beeline would get some MCI D4500s in its fleet, but it would be awsome to see some one door suburban Orion V buses in its fleet! I can agree with Bee-Lines decision here. Why run overweight 45ft OTR coaches for short haul express runs. Waste of money and fuel. Luggage bays aren't being used, so no need for those buses. I wonder if NYAS is going to buy a few 102-A2s from Bee-Line...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 27 #7 Posted September 12, 2008 I can agree with Bee-Lines decision here. Why run overweight 45ft OTR coaches for short haul express runs. Waste of money and fuel. Luggage bays aren't being used, so no need for those buses. I wonder if NYAS is going to buy a few 102-A2s from Bee-Line......I'm sure they will, they even bought GO Transit MCI coaches! :eek: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aemoreira81 965 #8 Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) I saw this bus by accident today. As for the engine, the only transit engines that an O5 can support for straight diesel are CAT C9 (9.3L) and the ISM (10.8L). The transmission would be a B400R. Edited September 13, 2008 by aemoreira81 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfAllBuses 3 #9 Posted September 13, 2008 WOW! That's gunna take some getting used to!! Lokin REALY SEXY!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cait Sith 8,113 #10 Posted September 13, 2008 The bus looks alright, I just wish they would change the design a bit. Since this will be the last high floor, when production ends, it should end with something new Sounds on the other hand, im very interested in hearing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 27 #11 Posted September 13, 2008 All it needs is a CNG tank and there's the second sexiest bus in the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aemoreira81 965 #12 Posted September 14, 2008 The bus looks alright, I just wish they would change the design a bit. Since this will be the last high floor, when production ends, it should end with something new Sounds on the other hand, im very interested in hearing I wonder how much this bus has in common with the single-door buses delivered to Translink in Vancouver, BC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTARegional Bus 247 #13 Posted September 14, 2008 I can agree with Bee-Lines decision here. Why run overweight 45ft OTR coaches for short haul express runs. Waste of money and fuel.. yea that right why can't the MTA buy thows buses? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonesy 0 #14 Posted September 14, 2008 (edited) this is why I love the Orion V! this is probably one of the main buses thats kept its design almost Original without any fancy crap time to see those videos now of them in action The bus looks alright, I just wish they would change the design a bit. Since this will be the last high floor, when production ends, it should end with something new Sounds on the other hand, im very interested in hearing last high floor for what? Edited September 14, 2008 by Pablo M 201 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7LineFan 254 #15 Posted September 14, 2008 last high floor for what? IIRC, every new bus made for transportation in the US has to be low floor... and this is Orion's last high floor bus; once they cancel it they will only be making low floors, i.e. the Orion VII NG. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonesy 0 #16 Posted September 14, 2008 I dont believe it!?!?...couldnt be every new bus though? because look at what MCI makes for Transport and you cant forget about the gillig phantom...I know you new york folks hate the phantom but cant forget about those lol when will they cancel the production of the 5? I hope not anytime soon cancel the VII if anything! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 27 #17 Posted September 14, 2008 I hope not anytime soon cancel the VII if anything!Ohh no you didn't... :eek: I read that the Orion V will sieze production in 2010. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trainfan22 1,782 #18 Posted September 14, 2008 cancel the VII if anything! Argeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BusOperator3319 4 #19 Posted September 15, 2008 yea that right why can't the MTA buy thows buses?won't work some of Staten Island Express routes are standing room only believe it or not so imagine an orion V packed to the doors Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonOfAllBuses 3 #20 Posted September 15, 2008 IIRC, every new bus made for transportation in the US has to be low floor... and this is Orion's last high floor bus; once they cancel it they will only be making low floors, i.e. the Orion VII NG. Well, i'd still be using high floor buses regardless of what the gov't wants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7LineFan 254 #21 Posted September 15, 2008 Well, i'd still be using high floor buses regardless of what the gov't wants. Oh, you can still use them. That's perfectly fine. They just can't make them anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdh4516 0 #22 Posted November 13, 2008 During the MBS ths past month I was on a tour at the Orion Plant in Mississauga and we were told during the tour that the Orion V's we were seeing were going to be the LAST V's built by Orion. The ones at the plant at the time were for Sanoma (I think that's in California??). SO I guess these new Orion V's for Bee Line are going to be their last ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOB2RTO 29 #23 Posted November 15, 2008 I seen that bus Sunday on Central Park Avenue (across from Kohl's). It's not as loud as the Cummins, and actually sounded quite smooth. I would love to see one Bee-Lines Orion Cummins vs. one of their Orion Cat's in a take off..... Uh-oh, bus drag racing down Central Park Avenue........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trainspot12 21 #24 Posted November 15, 2008 I been on the bus and it is cool. BTW the buses have a Cummins ISM engine, not Caterpillar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aemoreira81 965 #25 Posted November 16, 2008 The highest one I have seen so far is 821. Has anyone seen any numbers higher? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites