LGA Link N Train Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6476 Posted October 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, MJHmarc said: Just keep this in mind people…the MTA President has already announced there will be no changes to service after the manhattan congestion pricing starts. He went on a late morning tv new program and said there’s plenty off room in the system for more people with additional service than what’s running now. That doesn’t sound very promising at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6477 Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, MJHmarc said: Just keep this in mind people…the MTA President has already announced there will be no changes to service after the manhattan congestion pricing starts. He went on a late morning tv new program and said there’s plenty off room in the system for more people with additional service than what’s running now. he'll change his tune once the trains are packed and people start going apeshit. and that is complete bullshit because ridership is at peak pre pandemic levels now and since NYC like to spread it's asscheeks, you have over 100,000 migrants and counting here whom will also use the subway system thus adding to the already increased ridership. He's just damage controling because is about to see a drop in employees since a large chunk will retire in 2024-2025. Option order II is supposed to fix all the issues and also expand the fleet so eventually you'll see extra service unless they kill off some R68s which i doubt they'll do. Edited October 8, 2023 by R32 3838 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6478 Posted October 8, 2023 4 hours ago, MJHmarc said: Just keep this in mind people…the MTA President has already announced there will be no changes to service after the manhattan congestion pricing starts. He went on a late morning tv new program and said there’s plenty off room in the system for more people with additional service than what’s running now. Anyone whose taken the subway on weekends lately knows this is full of shit. Like who do they even think they're fooling... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBTA Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6479 Posted October 8, 2023 What in the blue hell has been going on in these last 5 or so pages? Thought I was reading a reddit discussion about who should be the next WWE champion with all the fighting going on..anyways Rode the 211 on Saturday and it felt smooth. Believe it was a 4100 set too, nice to see these cars doing good in a city like this. We definitely need the option sets, I see subway ridership rising between now and the last set coming in. As for the becoming full length, I agree too, it should be 10 cars, but it’ll probably come with a service reduction. Those trains are packed and sometimes you have to go to Court Square to even get a spot on the train. I don’t wanna speculate car assignments but, hopefully everything is more uniformed instead of random. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slantfan4281 Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6480 Posted October 8, 2023 5 hours ago, NBTA said: What in the blue hell has been going on in these last 5 or so pages? Thought I was reading a reddit discussion about who should be the next WWE champion with all the fighting going on..anyways Rode the 211 on Saturday and it felt smooth. Believe it was a 4100 set too, nice to see these cars doing good in a city like this. We definitely need the option sets, I see subway ridership rising between now and the last set coming in. As for the becoming full length, I agree too, it should be 10 cars, but it’ll probably come with a service reduction. Those trains are packed and sometimes you have to go to Court Square to even get a spot on the train. I don’t wanna speculate car assignments but, hopefully everything is more uniformed instead of random. I think it's more likely the will be 8 cars. Assuming the MTA still wants to go through with making the full length, there will be a ton of 4 car R179s that need to go somewhere. I'm going to guess they'll send them to ENY in exchange for some 4 car R160s to Jamaica for the . When the 4 car R211s arrive they can be used to expand service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6481 Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, slantfan4281 said: I think it's more likely the will be 8 cars. Assuming the MTA still wants to go through with making the full length, there will be a ton of 4 car R179s that need to go somewhere. I'm going to guess they'll send them to ENY in exchange for some 4 car R160s to Jamaica for the . When the 4 car R211s arrive they can be used to expand service. Again, Giving Jamaica 8 car R160's would create a bigger headache and would cost more money in the long term due to the fact it's a restricted fleet for one line. The yard barely have space as it is, Now you adding 8 car units to the mix. having it 10 cars would allow them to share cars with the and like it does now with it being 5 cars. This would reduce spare factor and require less cars, If Jamaica gets R211s, this would make it even better when it comes to spare factor. If the returned to Coney Island, That's a different story. They can handle an extra fleet since the yard is bigger and could store more trains. 9 hours ago, NBTA said: What in the blue hell has been going on in these last 5 or so pages? Thought I was reading a reddit discussion about who should be the next WWE champion with all the fighting going on..anyways Rode the 211 on Saturday and it felt smooth. Believe it was a 4100 set too, nice to see these cars doing good in a city like this. We definitely need the option sets, I see subway ridership rising between now and the last set coming in. As for the becoming full length, I agree too, it should be 10 cars, but it’ll probably come with a service reduction. Those trains are packed and sometimes you have to go to Court Square to even get a spot on the train. I don’t wanna speculate car assignments but, hopefully everything is more uniformed instead of random. Wouldn't have to be a service reduction, it could run the same as now. Back on topic, I think the R211T's should enter passenger service within the next 2 weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6482 Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, R32 3838 said: Again, Giving Jamaica 8 car R160's would create a bigger headache and would cost more money in the long term due to the fact it's a restricted fleet for one line. The yard barely have space as it is, Now you adding 8 car units to the mix. having it 10 cars would allow them to share cars with the and like it does now with it being 5 cars. This would reduce spare factor and require less cars, If Jamaica gets R211s, this would make it even better when it comes to spare factor. If the returned to Coney Island, That's a different story. They can handle an extra fleet since the yard is bigger and could store more trains. Wouldn't have to be a service reduction, it could run the same as now. Back on topic, I think the R211T's should enter passenger service within the next 2 weeks. I just hope that the MTA doesn't make the dumb mistake of putting both open gangway trains on lines that have low ridership. Otherwise, it would be a waste of money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6483 Posted October 8, 2023 17 hours ago, MJHmarc said: Just keep this in mind people…the MTA President has already announced there will be no changes to service after the manhattan congestion pricing starts. He went on a late morning tv new program and said there’s plenty off room in the system for more people with additional service than what’s running now. This is gonna backfire pretty badly... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6484 Posted October 8, 2023 48 minutes ago, Comrade96 said: This is gonna backfire pretty badly... Not necessarily… This is all an unknown. We don’t exactly know what effect the pricing program will have on the city and on ridership and on ridership levels on certain lines or stations. If we make changes immediately, we could make the wrong ones. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6485 Posted October 8, 2023 Burn-in testing: 4134-4130x4139-4135 earlier today. To be set no. 8 in a few days. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6486 Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: Not necessarily… This is all an unknown. We don’t exactly know what effect the pricing program will have on the city and on ridership and on ridership levels on certain lines or stations. If we make changes immediately, we could make the wrong ones. I agree only time will tell in regards to the real impact of congestion pricing in subway and bus ridership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomRider0101 Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6487 Posted October 8, 2023 There was a post at the end of the previous page that was removed due to a certain word that was used. It's okay to have disagreements with each other, but let's just be mindful of the language we use on here. That's all. On another note - I do look forward to seeing this order continue to make progress, and hopefully they eventually can work their way back to the original goal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade96 Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6488 Posted October 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: Not necessarily… This is all an unknown. We don’t exactly know what effect the pricing program will have on the city and on ridership and on ridership levels on certain lines or stations. If we make changes immediately, we could make the wrong ones. fair point 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-BahnNYC Posted October 8, 2023 Share #6489 Posted October 8, 2023 Does anyone know if all R211 sets are running everyday, or are they starting to take 1 out as a "spare" as the R211 fleet grows? I just want the R46s off the as soon as humanly possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6490 Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, U-BahnNYC said: Does anyone know if all R211 sets are running everyday, or are they starting to take 1 out as a "spare" as the R211 fleet grows? I just want the R46s off the as soon as humanly possible. Pitkins best performing r46's will go to CI. The worst performing r46's will be removed from service. We would have to wait for the base order to be in service before official retirement of the r46's begin. Let's not confuse "removed from service" with "retired". A "retired" subway car means that the subway car is ready to go to the scrap yard. Keep in mind that there are still r32's that haven't been scrapped yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchytectAnthony Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6491 Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, U-BahnNYC said: Does anyone know if all R211 sets are running everyday, or are they starting to take 1 out as a "spare" as the R211 fleet grows? If i'm not mistaken, i think it kinda varies everyday. Some days 5 sets will be running, other days 6 sets etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6492 Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) I've been wondering something regarding the two R211T currently in the system. If anybody has insight on if they are planning to test both of them into 30-day passenger service at the same time or just one of them? Apologize if this has already been answered before but I was just curious. Edited October 9, 2023 by jon2305 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slantfan4281 Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6493 Posted October 9, 2023 Heard that the R211s set will start testing on SIR soon along with the production cars, is this true? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6494 Posted October 9, 2023 Once the R211s are fully I'm service. Wi there be enough R68s to cover N/Q/W lines?.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6495 Posted October 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: Once the R211s are fully I'm service. Wi there be enough R68s to cover N/Q/W lines?.. Yes. But don’t tell that to the conquestors 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6496 Posted October 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: Once the R211s are fully I'm service. Wi there be enough R68s to cover N/Q/W lines?.. Yes, and it is possible that the NQW may get some r160's back once option 2 is delivered. BTW the NYPD caught the teen that broke the windows on CI r46's. I just hope that the parents are held accountable as well. Where were they when their teen offspring was smashing windows on the trains?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6497 Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Yes, and it is possible that the NQW may get some r160's back once option 2 is delivered. BTW the NYPD caught the teen that broke the windows on CI r46's. I just hope that the parents are held accountable as well. Where were they when their teen offspring was smashing windows on the trains?? Good question, but the real question was why was he not in school, and tress passing on the spot where no one is allowed there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6498 Posted October 9, 2023 20 hours ago, jon2305 said: I've been wondering something regarding the two R211T currently in the system. If anybody has insight on if they are planning to test both of them into 30-day passenger service at the same time or just one of them? Apologize if this has already been answered before but I was just curious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fans Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6499 Posted October 9, 2023 45 minutes ago, jon2305 said: I assuming which even one the MTA approved for the successful testing. Since they have to choice between the hard shell or soft shell. Time will tell let’s wait and see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Fans Posted October 9, 2023 Share #6500 Posted October 9, 2023 6 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: Once the R211s are fully I'm service. Wi there be enough R68s to cover N/Q/W lines?.. That’s correct since all the R68 and R68A will be on Coney Island by 2025. Since the option 1 for the R211a will start in January of 2025. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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