JAMAICA BUS TERMINAL RECONFIGURATION

[Union Tpke]

SF01-7260
JAMAICA BUS TERMINAL RECONFIGURATION
$1M - $5M

This project will reconfigure the Jamaica bus terminal located in Queens. The existing terminal is shared by NYC Transit, MTA Bus, and Long Island Bus. The reconstruction will improve pedestrian and passenger safety by eliminating bus back-up moves in the terminal and controlling pedestrian traffic in the terminal area by facilitating transfers between the boarding areas for the bus stops in the terminal and on Merrick Blvd.

Duration of Contract 7 Months

@East New York Do you have any details about this?

[Orion6025]

WOW They're eliminating the backing up moves?! 165th Street is abouta get a little more boring. At least it'll be more efficient

[Gotham Bus Co.]

23 minutes ago, Orion6025 said:

WOW They're eliminating the backing up moves?! 165th Street is abouta get a little more boring. At least it'll be more efficient

ATU-1056 won't willingly give up the picked "back-up" shifts at the terminal.

[JeremiahC99]

2 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

ATU-1056 won't willingly give up the picked "back-up" shifts at the terminal.

Why do the transit unions prevent the MTA from being very efficient at operations?

[Gotham Bus Co.]

16 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

Why do the transit unions prevent the MTA from being very efficient at operations?

Because efficiency can threaten union jobs.

[NY1635]

This is going to be efficient for the n6 Articulated Trips that currently end at Merrick and 89 Ave. 

[JeremiahC99]

20 minutes ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

Because efficiency can threaten union jobs.

And of the MTA tries to be efficient, would that cause the union to go on strike?

[checkmatechamp13]

5 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

ATU-1056 won't willingly give up the picked "back-up" shifts at the terminal.

Are you saying there are B/Os who literally do nothing except back up buses all day?

[Cait Sith]

I'll ask this again....can you post the source for this?

[BreeddekalbL]

Seconded who is your source?

[FamousNYLover]

I found article.

https://www.timesledger.com/stories/2014/16/jamaicabusdepot_tl_2014_04_18_q.html

MTA buys land to redevelop aging Jamaica Bus Terminal

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Photo by Rich Bockmann

The MTA reached a milestone in its long-in-the-works plan to update the Jamaica Bus Depot. Photo by Rich Bockmann

By Rich Bockmann

 

Several properties the MTA purchased along Merrick Boulevard will someday be incorporated into an expanded bus depot once construction money is allocated. Photo by Rich Bockmann

The MTA recently bought up a handful of properties adjacent to the South Jamaica bus depot, which it has been hoping to expand for years, but until the agency can come up with the needed capital funds, construction plans will sit as idle as the buses parked along Merrick Boulevard.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority paid $6.6 million earlier this month to the Hollywood, Fla.-based Rejtx LLC for four properties fronting Merrick Boulevard on the block just south of York College and Tuskegee Airmen Way as well as a fifth property at the block’s northwest corner.

The acquisition of the additional 50,000 square feet brings the MTA’s footprint on the block to about 221,000 square feet and represents a long-awaited milestone in the push to redevelop the aging facility.

“To alleviate a chronic shortage of bus parking and servicing facilities in Jamaica, the [New York City Transit] Department of Buses has long desired to expand the footprint of the Jamaica Bus Depot,” MTA spokesman Kevin Ortiz said. “Ultimately, we plan to construct a new bus depot on the site of the existing depot expanded to include the purchased properties.”

Built in 1940, the 58,000-square-foot depot is one of the oldest — if not the oldest — in the MTA’s portfolio. It serves as the home to some 200 buses operating on nine lines throughout southeast Queens, but it is too small for the task and many of the vehicles sit idle along Merrick Boulevard, especially at night and on weekends.

City Councilman I. Daneek Miller (D-St. Albans), who served as head of the Queens bus drivers union before he was elected to office last year, said the MTA has been eyeing the properties for the last three years, but plans to renovate the depot go back much further.

“I went to work in the Queens division in 1989, and they probably had it in the capital plan back then,” he said.

In its most recent version of the capital plan, the agency last year scaled back the renovation to include only pre-construction work, as funding is not available to put shovels in the ground. In the meantime, South Jamaica residents will have to continue to put up with buses parking on the street.

Community Board 12 District Manager Yvonne Reddick said the vehicles are a nuisance to residents of a nearby senior center and prevent street sweepers from cleaning the street.

“As a matter of fact, just a couple of weeks ago I had to call the MTA about the buses so the mechanical broom could get by and clean,” she said. “I’m happy to hear they purchased property, but I’m disappointed they don’t have money to start constructi­on.”

Photo by Rich Bockmann

Several properties the MTA purchased along Merrick Boulevard will someday be incorporated into an expanded bus depot once construction money is allocated. Photo by Rich Bockmann

[Union Tpke]

http://web.mta.info/mta/capital/eotf-descrip.htm#nyct

[Gotham Bus Co.]

3 hours ago, FamousNYLover said:

I found article.

https://www.timesledger.com/stories/2014/16/jamaicabusdepot_tl_2014_04_18_q.html

MTA buys land to redevelop aging Jamaica Bus Terminal

 

Several properties the MTA purchased along Merrick Boulevard will someday be incorporated into an expanded bus depot once construction money is allocated. Photo by Rich Bockmann

The MTA recently bought up a handful of properties adjacent to the South Jamaica bus depot, which it has been hoping to expand for years, but until the agency can come up with the needed capital funds, construction plans will sit as idle as the buses parked along Merrick Boulevard.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority paid $6.6 million earlier this month to the Hollywood, Fla.-based Rejtx LLC for four properties fronting Merrick Boulevard on the block just south of York College and Tuskegee Airmen Way as well as a fifth property at the block’s northwest corner.

This article is about rebuilding the Jamaica Depot. It has nothing to do with the 165th Street Terminal (about a half-mile north).

 

 

7 hours ago, checkmatechamp13 said:

Are you saying there are B/Os who literally do nothing except back up buses all day?

Yes. There is a fake "route" in the pick called "TRMNL" whose runs consist entirely of standing at the 165th Street Terminal and backing up buses. It's split between Jamaica (weekdays) and Queens Village (Saturday/Sunday).

[EastFlatbushLarry]

3 hours ago, Union Tpke said:

http://web.mta.info/mta/capital/eotf-descrip.htm#nyct

Yeah. It's in there. But, the July 2018 date...  is that date for work to begin or has a contractor been awarded the contract to begin work yet?

[EastFlatbushLarry]

41 minutes ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

Yes. There is a fake "route" in the pick called "TRMNL" whose runs consist entirely of standing at the 165th Street Terminal and backing up buses. It's split between Jamaica (weekdays) and Queens Village (Saturday/Sunday).

It's basically a shifter or drill pick, equivalent to working the fuel line, where instead of pulling up buses on the fuel line and/or thru the bus wash, you go to the terminal and reverse buses out of the terminal. Like the shifter & drill, b/o's don't have to operate in passenger service if the picked this assignment, depending on how the run is set up. I've known ops who picked drill, worked the fuel line 4 days a week and one day of the week were on the extra list, and that was their run. In order to pick these assignments, an operator must be shifter and drill qualified. 

[Gotham Bus Co.]

6 hours ago, Vtrain said:

To avoid having buses being parked along Merrick Blvd nights & weekends, the Q17 should be transferred to Casey Stengel Depot, there is a storage yard just east of this depot that can handle the Q17.

 

No good. Casey Stengel is due to close in a couple of years to accommodate the LaGuardia AirTrain.

[Mysterious2train]

11 hours ago, EastFlatbushLarry said:

Yeah. It's in there. But, the July 2018 date...  is that date for work to begin or has a contractor been awarded the contract to begin work yet?

That page (Eye on the Future) lists contracts the MTA plans to advertise in the future. NYCT plans to advertise this specific contract in July. Advertising, bidding, awarding a contract... that's all months away. 

[EastFlatbushLarry]

7 hours ago, Mysterious2train said:

That page (Eye on the Future) lists contracts the MTA plans to advertise in the future. NYCT plans to advertise this specific contract in July. Advertising, bidding, awarding a contract... that's all months away. 

Reading is fundamental. Thank you. That's what I thought i read. So this thread is null & void, nothing is happening with 165 terminal yet.. Nothing to see here. So no one from Jamaica,  Queens Village, JFK or NICE is loosing their shifter/drill tricks... Not for a good while anyway.