vioreen Posted September 21, 2020 Share #1 Posted September 21, 2020 There need to be emergency power cut button on subway platform like what they got in Toronto metro and this cuts power to the 3rd Rail incase a customer falls onto the tracks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted September 22, 2020 Share #2 Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, vioreen said: There need to be emergency power cut button on subway platform like what they got in Toronto metro and this cuts power to the 3rd Rail incase a customer falls onto the tracks. Uhhhhh....no. Did you not see the scene that unfolded two days ago with the mentally ill person throwing D plates onto the track? That's adding another weapon for them to use and cutting off power usually means entire sections of track meaning you may cause several trains to go BIE. People randomly pull the emergency brake on subway cars for no reason as it is. The idea looks great on paper but it has the potential to do more harm than good. Some people might start pulling it because their phone fell in the track and needs to be rescued. Why is this even in the bus thread?! Edited September 22, 2020 by danielhg121 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 22, 2020 Share #3 Posted September 22, 2020 @danielhg121 Cutting the power doesn't activate the emergency brake. The trains can still coast along the line, which means if somebody shut off the power to grab their phone they could still get hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted September 22, 2020 Share #4 Posted September 22, 2020 Right, and 95% of the time when somebody dies on the tracks it's from a train hitting them, not third rail contact. My understanding is you actually have to work fairly precisely to make contact with the rail and complete a circuit, but that's just from watching Taking of Pelham... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted September 22, 2020 Share #5 Posted September 22, 2020 Also, WTF is this in the Buses section? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted September 22, 2020 Share #6 Posted September 22, 2020 Mods: Any possibly that this could be moved to the subway section please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vioreen Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted September 23, 2020 There need to be emergency power cut button on subway platform like what they got in Toronto metro and this cuts power to the 3rd Rail incase a customer falls onto the tracks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted September 23, 2020 Share #8 Posted September 23, 2020 <sarcasm> Yes, because a "push here to cut power" button where anyone can get it in this city won't backfire catastrophically. It will never get misused by miscreants looking for a laugh. It will never be pushed at the wrong time. snarling rush hour travel.</sarcasm> 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted September 23, 2020 Share #9 Posted September 23, 2020 And merged because OP duplicated this topic, for some reason... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 23, 2020 Share #10 Posted September 23, 2020 7 hours ago, MHV9218 said: Right, and 95% of the time when somebody dies on the tracks it's from a train hitting them, not third rail contact. My understanding is you actually have to work fairly precisely to make contact with the rail and complete a circuit, but that's just from watching Taking of Pelham... From what I've been told, you have to touch the 3rd rail and running rail at the same time (and the space between them is bigger than it looks. You'd have to slip and fall and one part of your body touches the running rail while one touches the 3rd rail). Still, I wouldn't test that theory lol . I remember the first time I had to cross it, the flagger said "Yeah if you touch both at the same time you're dead. No pressure though" 😄 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 23, 2020 Share #11 Posted September 23, 2020 Thread is titled oddly, but nonetheless, this is a duplicate of a discussion that was made in the bus section for some odd reason....... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted September 23, 2020 Share #12 Posted September 23, 2020 Some places in the Greater NY/NJ area did have these and they have been disabled....for obvious reasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted September 23, 2020 Share #13 Posted September 23, 2020 20 hours ago, Kamen Rider said: <sarcasm> Yes, because a "push here to cut power" button where anyone can get it in this city won't backfire catastrophically. It will never get misused by miscreants looking for a laugh. It will never be pushed at the wrong time. snarling rush hour travel.</sarcasm> Aside from how rarely the emergency brake is actually pulled, a simple solution is put the cutoff button in the token booths or maintenance rooms at stations that have them, and make the power blocks they control parts of lines between express-local junctions or diamonds on two-track lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted September 25, 2020 Share #14 Posted September 25, 2020 It takes a bit of time, but if you press the emergency button on those communication posts (I forget what they are callee), or go to the booth, they can get it turned off for you in an emergency. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 25, 2020 Share #15 Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said: It takes a bit of time, but if you press the emergency button on those communication posts (I forget what they are callee), or go to the booth, they can get it turned off for you in an emergency. I believe you are referring to the blue light Help Points. But yeah, in the monthly MTA meetings they track how long their response times are to those buttons, and IIRC they are less than 10 seconds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted September 25, 2020 Share #16 Posted September 25, 2020 10 hours ago, checkmatechamp13 said: I believe you are referring to the blue light Help Points. But yeah, in the monthly MTA meetings they track how long their response times are to those buttons, and IIRC they are less than 10 seconds. Yup, that's exactly what i was referring to 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulk88 Posted October 7, 2020 Share #17 Posted October 7, 2020 NYCT doesn't even have fire extinguishers on trains in violation of non-applicable federal law. On WMATA teens spray down the inside of subway cars with the onboard dry chem extinguishers all the time to duck against the system. NYCT subway cars don't even have any emergency door release handles, again in violation of no jurisdiction and no standing federal law. In London people open the side doors for by breaking the glass and pulling the handle "for a breeze". Because of NY State law, the AHJ for MTA property, is the MTA, not City Hall or Feds. 2 weeks ago on Metro north red-eye, 2 young fare dodgers got on at Fordham, no ticket no cash no ID asking for a break of course. Conductor tried to detain them by holding the doors closed at Mount Vernon East, as blue lights were rolling into the parking lot the 2 punks jumped off the MN between the cars, jumped over the metal platform railing down into the parking lot and ran off into the night. By the time MTA police slow walked to the train from their patrol car, the 2 punks were probably back in the bronx. And someone wants 3rd rail power cut off buttons? Can't I throw a metal trashcan lid on the tracks between 3rd rail and running rail as emergency power cutoff? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted October 10, 2020 Share #18 Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 6:34 PM, bulk88 said: And someone wants 3rd rail power cut off buttons? Can't I throw a metal trashcan lid on the tracks between 3rd rail and running rail as emergency power cutoff? And start a huge electrical fire? You've got to be joking.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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