LTA1992 Posted November 20, 2008 Share #126 Posted November 20, 2008 The Has to stay because the Rould be more crowded than it is already. I Cannot imagine the without the , they are like brothers. It actually makes me want to cry. can get the boot. Have some run via 53rd Street and others via 63rd Street. Extend the via 63rd street to queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 20, 2008 Share #127 Posted November 20, 2008 Have some run via 53rd Street and others via 63rd Street. Extend the via 63rd street to queens. Not going to happen....why screw the 63rd Street Line customers with every other train....longer waits and crowded trains.....2nd where in Queens the is going to terminate w/o backing up or causing delays on that particular train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted November 20, 2008 Share #128 Posted November 20, 2008 Not going to happen....why screw the 63rd Street Line customers with every other train....longer waits and crowded trains.....2nd where in Queens the is going to terminate w/o backing up or causing delays on that particular train! Since the would be out he'd run the to Forest Hills. Except the is already reserved for SAS, what will he do when the SAS opens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted November 20, 2008 Share #129 Posted November 20, 2008 The Has to stay because the Rould be more crowded than it is already. I Cannot imagine the without the , they are like brothers. It actually makes me want to cry. The will run local to directly replace the lost service. And calm down about the , it was only six trains that don't really do much anyway. Those six trains will go to the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 20, 2008 Share #130 Posted November 20, 2008 Since the would be out he'd run the to Forest Hills. Except the is already reserved for SAS, what will he do when the SAS opens? Then that backs up the trains...just b/c the willl stop @ Lexington Avenue-63rd Street for the SAS doesn't mean it have to be extended to Northeast of Queens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 20, 2008 Share #131 Posted November 20, 2008 The will run local to directly replace the lost service. And calm down about the , it was only six trains that don't really do much anyway. Those six trains will go to the . The don't need to replace the when it gets cuts..... can be fine making all local stops via Broadway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted November 20, 2008 Share #132 Posted November 20, 2008 I really only see a load during the AM Rush Hours between 7AM 9AM its mostly from CTL to Rock Ctr then it empty out. I don't see much ridership QNS bound. Mostly what the really does is help service. I just gave you Mgt reasons but they are dreaming the (Customers) want the Express. I remember on odd morning we had 4 trains back to back with no do to a stalled at 63/Lex the riders along 6 AV where steamed. To be fair, the V is SRO during the height of rush hour (especially along Queens Blvd). However, the V has not improved F service. F service is less frequent and often runs in bunches. Also, F riders from Queens have no direct access to the 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted November 20, 2008 Share #133 Posted November 20, 2008 I just added that info onto my blog at Yuki Endo's International Guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle Local Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share #134 Posted November 20, 2008 The don't need to replace the when it gets cuts..... can be fine making all local stops via Broadway Yes it does, there's no way the can handle all of Broadway Local by itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 20, 2008 Share #135 Posted November 20, 2008 Yes it does, there's no way the can handle all of Broadway Local by itself The can't handle the Broadway Express by itself....every train will be packed and it just can't be one express train. If the Lexington Avenue Line can handle one local by itself so can the Broadway Line.....the don't need to run local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted November 20, 2008 Share #136 Posted November 20, 2008 The way I see it they need 2 services on the Bway Local during the week so they should run the or Local in Manhattan. Express service is not as important as Local service. On the site they say service will replace the between 57 St / 7AV to Astoria which is a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 20, 2008 Share #137 Posted November 20, 2008 The way I see it they need 2 services on the Bway Local during the week so they should run the or Local in Manhattan. Express service is not as important as Local service. On the site they say service will replace the between 57 St / 7AV to Astoria which is a step in the right direction. Express service is important on the Broadway Line or any other line in the subway. You expect ppl to suffer on the local 24/7? Express is needed and it cut some time for ppl to make get to another borough faster than the local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kexpress Posted November 20, 2008 Share #138 Posted November 20, 2008 Then that backs up the trains...just b/c the willl stop @ Lexington Avenue-63rd Street for the SAS doesn't mean it have to be extended to Northeast of Queens Well can always be extneded to Queens. The has made evrything worst for the (F)/(G) riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted November 20, 2008 Share #139 Posted November 20, 2008 They could cut the but I feel its needed for the Rush Hours. I don't agree with the cut at all that will be a disaster unless they extended the to Astoria but looks like that won't happen. According to the MTA today, that is what would be done. The skipping 138th is the mosts stupidest thing Ive seen so far, just 1 stop doesnt make sence, if I were to use the I would get to 149th street at the same time as the skipping.. Arright how about this: Div 1: skipping 138 is eliminated. That's not a real "express" service, but is rather so the doesn't conflict with the coming out of the WP/Jerome connection. So if the is to go first, the would be held in the station, instead of the traffic backing up onto the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 20, 2008 Share #140 Posted November 20, 2008 Well can always be extneded to Queens. The has made evrything worst for the (F)/(G) riders. Says who? Do you have any proof the made it worse for the and customers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kexpress Posted November 21, 2008 Share #141 Posted November 21, 2008 Says who? Do you have any proof the made it worse for the and customers? http://www.observer.com/2008/g-train-riders-mta-give-us-some-v-cars-mta-g-train-riders-no http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(New_York_City_Subway_service) Here there is proof the (F)/(G) riders are not happy and hate the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted November 21, 2008 Share #142 Posted November 21, 2008 As a E and F rider I have to say that the V is the worse thing to ever happen to the system. F service has declined in quality and it is completely cut off from the East Side business district. The severly overcrowded E is the only reliable line on Queens Blvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 21, 2008 Share #143 Posted November 21, 2008 http://www.observer.com/2008/g-train-riders-mta-give-us-some-v-cars-mta-g-train-riders-nohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_(New_York_City_Subway_service) Here there is proof the (F)/(G) riders are not happy and hate the . Ok 1st article....that was about the number of cars on the vs . They are complaining that the has only 4 cars during non-rush hours and 6 cars during rush hours and they wanted to borrow some cars from the so it can equal to the cars. 2nd link.....I find it to a load full of crap b/c Wikipedia is not resourceful and trains riders aren't that happy then why are they still riding that line. If they are desperately wanting the connection to the Lexington Avenue Line....they can either take the to 23rd Street-Ely Avenue and walk to the and take the to Grand Central-42nd Street or take the from 74th Street-Broadway from transferring from Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue and/or stay on the and get off @ Lexington Avenue-53rd Street and the from there. Instead of complaining about fare hikes they rather complain about the subway cars and transferring to other trains. When I ride the and see lots of ppl get off @ Lexington Avenue-63rd Street so its not less popular....that is such non-sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted November 21, 2008 Share #144 Posted November 21, 2008 Ok 1st article....that was about the number of cars on the vs . They are complaining that the has only 4 cars during non-rush hours and 6 cars during rush hours and they wanted to borrow some cars from the so it can equal to the cars. 2nd link.....I find it to a load full of crap b/c Wikipedia is not resourceful and trains riders aren't that happy then why are they still riding that line. If they are desperately wanting the connection to the Lexington Avenue Line....they can either take the to 23rd Street-Ely Avenue and walk to the and take the to Grand Central-42nd Street or take the from 74th Street-Broadway from transferring from Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue and/or stay on the and get off @ Lexington Avenue-53rd Street and the from there. Instead of complaining about fare hikes they rather complain about the subway cars and transferring to other trains. When I ride the and see lots of ppl get off @ Lexington Avenue-63rd Street so its not less popular....that is such non-sense That would save the lots of money. the weird par tis the loves the and the loves the but the and hate eachother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 21, 2008 Share #145 Posted November 21, 2008 said it before I'll say it again... Wikipedia is not a valid source since any foamer can edit it and quote it some place else. Not to mention this is RTO and things can change at the drop of a hat. Please do not cite it, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kexpress Posted November 21, 2008 Share #146 Posted November 21, 2008 Here I found a website about save the here: http://www.savetheg.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 21, 2008 Share #147 Posted November 21, 2008 Here I found a website about save the here: http://www.savetheg.org/ As I stated before the article or link is about the having 4 cars instead of 8. Whats the non-sense is that the link said the replaced in Queens a crop of crap b/c the replaced the via 53rd Street. Yes I must admit the are getting screwed constantly, but its up to the riders to go to the public hearing about the service cuts/fare increasing and speak their minds. They not going to see the terminating @ Church Avenue in the near future. Leave the just the way it is, its fine running via 63rd Street! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted November 21, 2008 Share #148 Posted November 21, 2008 December 1st, kiss the goodbye. On Monday, I'll be standing in front of Whitehall Street with a sign saying "Leave the Alone" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agonyisfun Posted November 21, 2008 Share #149 Posted November 21, 2008 its ironic that the will be discontinued next month...the train was introduced in december '88 and now its being discontinued in decmber 2008... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted November 21, 2008 Share #150 Posted November 21, 2008 December 1st, kiss the goodbye. On Monday, I'll be standing in front of Whitehall Street with a sign saying "Leave the Alone" Why do people keep insisting this is happening in Dec? Nothing has been said by the MTA. Railfans need to stop foaming and spreading false information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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