7LineFan Posted November 19, 2008 Share #51 Posted November 19, 2008 Instead of cutting the cut the ! I never see too many people on that train. And when they do that extend the back up to Continental for local service. Basically restore the pre- service arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kexpress Posted November 19, 2008 Share #52 Posted November 19, 2008 Instead of the cutting back express service,The should just discountinue the (V)/(W) and rextend to Forest Hills-71 Avenue at all times and have everything back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted November 19, 2008 Share #53 Posted November 19, 2008 Cut the , not the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJr142 Posted November 19, 2008 Share #54 Posted November 19, 2008 Yep, get rid of the , not the . It will make no sense to keep a line that people dont use, but to get rid of a line that many people ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duelingdragons Posted November 19, 2008 Share #55 Posted November 19, 2008 Yeahhhh.. I just don't understand how the can cut the when its already JAMMED as it is. I mean, its meant to serve as a relief line to the in Queens, and to the in Manhattan, right? Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted November 19, 2008 Share #56 Posted November 19, 2008 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted November 19, 2008 Share #57 Posted November 19, 2008 Well, the is the going through the line. So cutting it isn't helpful. The is a train running on the in lower Manhanttan. So cutting it isn't helpful too. The cut isn't the best idea too... The best idea is to never put the in service because I would confuse it with Boston's rapid transit. Just put the to second avenue, no need to entend it all the way to lower manhanttan becasue the main crowdiness is between 125th street and midtown... At least the second ave subway had some success... =]! :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Beach Posted November 19, 2008 Share #58 Posted November 19, 2008 Wow this is so bad. History will be made Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duelingdragons Posted November 19, 2008 Share #59 Posted November 19, 2008 Well, the is the going through the line. So cutting it isn't helpful. The is a train running on the in lower Manhanttan. So cutting it isn't helpful too. The cut isn't the best idea too... The best idea is to never put the in service because I would confuse it with Boston's rapid transit. Just put the to second avenue, no need to entend it all the way to lower manhanttan becasue the main crowdiness is between 125th street and midtown... At least the second ave subway had some success... =]! wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted November 19, 2008 Share #60 Posted November 19, 2008 Cut the , not the . by cutting the that means the tunnel connecting IND 6th from 53rd is useless. Plus over crowdiness between the and Maybe the (V)/(W) can cut. Its better to have the rin as lcl, or make the whole bmt broadwy look more like a 7th/lex ave line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kexpress Posted November 19, 2008 Share #61 Posted November 19, 2008 Wow this is so bad. History will be made Thursday. The service change happens this December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted November 19, 2008 Share #62 Posted November 19, 2008 Hey now don't cut my Line and don't think they will since the QNS corridor is as overcowded at the Lex Lines. The is suppose to help take the load of the trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted November 19, 2008 Share #63 Posted November 19, 2008 Hey now don't cut my Line and don't think they will since the QNS corridor is as overcowded at the Lex Lines. The is suppose to help take the load of the trains. Hate to say it Pelham Dave, but what load does it take off? It's ALWAYS empty even at rush hours. The and are STILL crowed so the ain't doing jack. The service stinks to, it always goes ,,,,,,,,. Do you see a pattern? And this is guy that ride who rides the everyday last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted November 19, 2008 Share #64 Posted November 19, 2008 I really only see a load during the AM Rush Hours between 7AM 9AM its mostly from CTL to Rock Ctr then it empty out. I don't see much ridership QNS bound. Mostly what the really does is help service. I just gave you Mgt reasons but they are dreaming the (Customers) want the Express. I remember on odd morning we had 4 trains back to back with no do to a stalled at 63/Lex the riders along 6 AV where steamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJr142 Posted November 19, 2008 Share #65 Posted November 19, 2008 If the doesnt have many customers riding it, why keep a line who people hardly ride? The has to stay cuz at rush hours, the and are crowded and the has to help stop the crowding. The hardly does anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted November 19, 2008 Share #66 Posted November 19, 2008 Oh the has its moments when it's crowded. It does help take the load off the in Manhattan, and riders on the have direct rides between all 6 Avenue stops in Manhattan and all Queens Boulevard stops in Queens, up to 71-Continental Avenues. Leave the as is, I hope it doesn't go into the chopping block! Same with the . Keep the extensions going! Don't chop off the south of Broad Street, people need the for 4 Avenue/West End service. If the was to terminate at Broad Street during rush hours... The will be overcrowded The Canal Street platforms will be packed from the passengers transferring from The will carry more passengers to Atlantic-Pacific for the . The will be more packed in the absence of the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted November 19, 2008 Share #67 Posted November 19, 2008 The service change happens this December. I had been hearing it would be the next pick, in the summer. For winter pick, we would have to repick. Unless they run us on a supplement all pick, but that would be such a rescheduling, they would basically be putting us in totally different jobs and essentially assigning us jobs without a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlmerPark B6 Posted November 19, 2008 Share #68 Posted November 19, 2008 Oh the has its moments when it's crowded. It does help take the load off the in Manhattan, and riders on the have direct rides between all 6 Avenue stops in Manhattan and all Queens Boulevard stops in Queens, up to 71-Continental Avenues. Leave the as is, I hope it doesn't go into the chopping block! Same with the . Keep the extensions going! Don't chop off the south of Broad Street, people need the for 4 Avenue/West End service. If the was to terminate at Broad Street during rush hours... The will be overcrowded The Canal Street platforms will be packed from the passengers transferring from The will carry more passengers to Atlantic-Pacific for the . The will be more packed in the absence of the I agree except the extension. There is no point for it if we are in a budget crisis. The should have been axed, along time ago. The should run local for the absense on the and relieve the by a little. The Canal St. platform is crowded enough and now if we have to wait longer for trains, this is going to be pain! I would rather: -Cut the back to 145th St. all times -Cut the express service in the Bronx for the - should be extended to 8 cars, but run less frequently, with service to Forest Hills -Like the , it should be running less frequently -Cut the , , and all express service IRT service in Bronx like , , -Run the local all over to cover the absense of the and -Run the from Broad St. or Chambers St. and the other end -Cancel the or Rockaway Shuttle and just run less frequent service to it -Less frequent service on the Express -Put more ads on subways and buses Why don't Eliot Sanders just cut his own salary!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted November 19, 2008 Share #69 Posted November 19, 2008 They could cut the but I feel its needed for the Rush Hours. I don't agree with the cut at all that will be a disaster unless they extended the to Astoria but looks like that won't happen. The should not cut service they need to cut the Line Manager program . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted November 19, 2008 Share #70 Posted November 19, 2008 Well when management holds the cutting knife, I doubt they will sacrifice one of their own unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted November 20, 2008 Share #71 Posted November 20, 2008 I agree except the extension. There is no point for it if we are in a budget crisis. The should have been axed, along time ago. The should run local for the absense on the and relieve the by a little. The Canal St. platform is crowded enough and now if we have to wait longer for trains, this is going to be pain! I would rather: -Cut the back to 145th St. all times -Cut the express service in the Bronx for the - should be extended to 8 cars, but run less frequently, with service to Forest Hills -Like the , it should be running less frequently -Cut the , , and all express service IRT service in Bronx like , , -Run the local all over to cover the absense of the and -Run the from Broad St. or Chambers St. and the other end -Cancel the or Rockaway Shuttle and just run less frequent service to it -Less frequent service on the Express -Put more ads on subways and buses Why don't Eliot Sanders just cut his own salary!!!!!!!!! You mus tbe nuts!!, sorry to say that but~ Cut the Bronx express service??, how about cut the service Plus your not being very fair, just cuz the is a queens train which people dont care much about the bx doesnt mean we gotta surfer our selves, the is just like the in the bronx it does NOT connect with any IRT/IND lines, only 125th and south, the will never be cut lol how about the brighton line thats good enough.. anyways not to cause problems The could be cut, I wouldnt cut the Express service tho. Id also think the SAS should be at a hault maybe, and have more bus services, or have an SBS along the M101 and M15 buses to help out recover otherwise just have the run to 96th street at least Also dont confuse most people with (S)/(H) we know the was the before 93.. Leave the alone, as it is needed, otherwise there would be 3 (A)s or an to Mott ave via Rkway Pk. Maybe the 42nd could be cut.. Lower the prices for the MNRR/LIRR as alternatives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted November 20, 2008 Share #72 Posted November 20, 2008 I agree except the extension. There is no point for it if we are in a budget crisis. The should have been axed, a long time ago. The should run local for the absense on the and relieve the by a little. The Canal St. platform is crowded enough and now if we have to wait longer for trains, this is going to be pain! I would rather: -Cut the back to 145th St. all times -Cut the express service in the Bronx for the - should be extended to 8 cars, but run less frequently, with service to Forest Hills -Like the , it should be running less frequently -Cut the , , and all express service IRT service in Bronx like , , -Run the local all over to cover the absense of the and -Run the from Broad St. or Chambers St. and the other end -Cancel the or Rockaway Shuttle and just run less frequent service to it -Less frequent service on the Express -Put more ads on subways and buses Why don't Eliot Sanders just cut his own salary!!!!!!!!! That has a few too many problems in it. is crowded all the time, and cutting it and running the local means longer rides, longer waits, and more crowded trains. The and don't exist. Cancel the outright instead of reducing service. People who want to go to 6th Avenue via 53rd Street can take the to 7th Avenue and transfer to a or train across the platform. After canceling the extend the back to 71/Continental to make up for local service on the Queens Blvd Line. Run the extra cars from the on the and . And do you know how crowded the is? Especially during rush hours? Take it from someone who rides that packed thing every day. Cutting service on that line only makes more problems. EDIT: Kexpress (post below) gave me an idea... cut the , move the back to 53rd, and run the via 63rd to 71st Continental. The only problem with this is that the 57th Street station would be neglected. Any suggestions to work around this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kexpress Posted November 20, 2008 Share #73 Posted November 20, 2008 EDITED:I think what should do for cutting service back. 1.Discontinue the line. 2. Reoute the on the 53 Street tunnel. 3.Extend the to Forest Hills-71 Avenue. 4. Rextended to to Forest Hills-71 Avenue at all times expect late night which during late night the train run local on the Queens Blve line. 5. The can drop the (W)/(Z) if they want to. 6. Keep the express service. 7. The can be cut back to Board Street and transfer to another route to brooklyn in the transit center. 8. The Rockaway Shuttle should replace between Broad Channel and Rockaway Park- Beach 116 Street and then will no longer serve the Rockaway park during rush hours. 9. ( should be be go to Forest Hills-71 Avenue and have local and <> express in broxn. 10. During weekends and late nights the should be cut back to 125 Street and have the (4)/(5) run local on weekends,the (4)/(5) already run lcoal during late nights. 11. Cut back express service to 74 street-Broadway and have the local terminate at 74 Street-Broadway and have the people transfer to express train to/from main street on weekdays. 12. The (2)/(5) that has some rush hour trip to/from New Lots Avenue/Utica Ave should be discontinued. 13. The that has some rush hours trips to/from New Lots Avenue/Flatbush Avenue should be discontinued. 14.The that has some rush hour trips to/from Flatbush Ave should be discontinued. 15 The that has some rush hour trip to/from Jamaica-179 Street should be discontinued. 16. Also during rush hours the that goes to Nereid Av should be discontinued and should only go to Dyre Ave only. 17. The train that skips 138 street during rush hours should be discontinued and have the 4 stop at 138 street all times. 18. During late nights and weekends the should be cut back to Hoyt Street-Schermerhorn Street. 19. trains weekend service should be discontinued and have run local during weekends also (like it does late night) so the train run during weekdays only and the run express during weekdays only. 20.The Staten Island Railway express service should be discontinued and have the Staten Island Railway run local all times. That's what I think the should do to cut back service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelham Bay Dave Posted November 20, 2008 Share #74 Posted November 20, 2008 Thats another reason I won't cut the since it got its own supervisors unlike the which is controlled by Mgt and controlled by the Lines Mgt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted November 20, 2008 Share #75 Posted November 20, 2008 I think what should do for cutting service back.... 1. Agree 2-3. Instead of running the only to 21/Queensbridge how bout having it run to 71/Continental? Long route, but plausible. 4. Replace with as with above. 5. Don't drop the . 6. What express service? 7-8. No comment. 9. There's no point because it would be the same service pattern. Matter of fact you'd probably need extra trains for the <>. 10. doesn't run past East 180th Street late nights. And I doubt the entire suggestion is possible. 11. Horrible. By doing that you completely neglect the 86th, 90th, 103rd, and 111th Street Stations. People use those stations you know! And that also means more crowded trains, slower trains, and longer wait times. 12-14: No comment. 15. Those trips are needed to relieve pressure on the Jamaica Center terminal. 16-17. No comment. 18. IIRC there are no switches at Hoyt, and only two tracks. Not possible. 19-20. No comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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