subwaycommuter1983 Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4876 Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Fan Railer said: All this pointless bickering and debating aside, 3096 & 3097 are being delivered tonight. Thanks for sharing the information. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4877 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, D to 96 St said: I understand...these foamers just take this R32 assignments to another level, when it's just a train. Be grateful you even get to ride the R32's ANYWHERE, as they'll be retired after the shutdown. I'm gonna stay out of this "R32 and thingy" until all of us can calm down. For how long will you be gone? We'll miss you. Well ppl blamed @LGA Link N train for causing the whole mess of the "parody, memes, and other crap" because he bumped it. Ppl just need to stop this garbage over R32s. Hey in my defense I just made a prediction and It got out of hand from there. @R42N I was being sincere about that apology, but when I said that we were bringing it up again, I was going to point out a fact (despite my opinions) I don't care where they go as long as the MTA makes the logical and best choice (which is not under my jurisdiction). And as for there retirement, Sure I'll miss them but I'm not a foamer (despite how immature I can be). And one last point, I didn't start this mess. 2 hours ago, D to 96 St said: When I mean by foamer, it means people just keep arguing about R32's endlessly EVEN after credible sources came in and provided us with info. I see your point, but I'm no foamer I just realized that I'm late and this conversation ended so my bad Edited January 17, 2018 by LGA Link N train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4878 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Ok let's please get back on topic with R179s. I know that 3058-3064 finished up, as well as the other production car set (can't remember which), but are any other cars being scheduled to deliver besides the two @Fan Railer listed? Edited January 17, 2018 by D to 96 St 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4879 Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, D to 96 St said: Ok let's please get back on topic with R179s. I know that 3058-3064 finished up, as well as the other production car set (can't remember which), 3066-3069 and 3090-3093 but are any other cars being scheduled to deliver besides the two @Fan Railer listed? not sure (wonder what happened to 3020-3049, 3070-3087, and 3094-3303) ... wait. The order is being delivered staggered and out of order from what I know Replies in bold 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4880 Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Bill from Maspeth said: Those lines are OPTO, meaning one person train operation. There is no conductor on these lines. They need full width cabs so the train operator can operate the doors on his left side. R32's do not have full width cabs. There it is. I was thinking the operation was like the especially on RPS good to know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4881 Posted January 17, 2018 Cars on property: 3010-3019 (10) 3050-3069 (20) 3086-3093 (8) 3096-3097 [2] If the trend follows, 94-95 will arrive tomorrow. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4882 Posted January 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said: Replies in bold Oh I know what to call 3066-3093: The Train of Many Disorganized! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4883 Posted January 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Fan Railer said: Cars on property: 3010-3019 (10) 3050-3057 (8) 3058-3065 (8) 3066-3069 3086-3093 (8) 3096-3097 [2] If the trend follows, 94-95 will arrive tomorrow. So we should expect 42 cars in MTA property, I had to break down the order you had to make this easier for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4884 Posted January 17, 2018 What exactly is wrong with the 10 car set that's holding it back from entering revenue service? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4885 Posted January 17, 2018 How's the progress on 3010-3019? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4886 Posted January 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, trainfan22 said: What exactly is wrong with the 10 car set that's holding it back from entering revenue service? 3010-3019 was the set that failed the most in OOS testing. That's why they had to test it on Brighton a few weeks ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-BahnNYC Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4887 Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, D to 96 St said: 3010-3019 was the set that failed the most in OOS testing. That's why they had to test it on Brighton a few weeks ago. When might the remaining 5-car sets be delivered? Is there a timeline for that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4888 Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, U-BahnNYC said: When might the remaining 5-car sets be delivered? Is there a timeline for that? Facts. When are those sets coming in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4889 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, LGA Link N train said: Replies in bold Interestingly enough, the R142s were delivered out of sequence too. But much more so than the R179s with some of the 66xx and 67xx series cars going into service before some of the 63xx, 64xx and 65xx series cars did. Edited January 17, 2018 by T to Dyre Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4890 Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 4:40 PM, subwaycommuter1983 said: It may work. The A, C needs NTT and that is the reason why a lot of these sets have been possibly modified into 5 car sets. Yes, the C needs longer trains, but it also needs NTT. It's pretty unfair that the A and C trains always have to stick with the oldest fleet in the system. I agree. The A & C should be the first ones to get the R211s instead of getting the R179s. This would be a better service for A trains to utilize artics on that line, especially for its Far rock branch. The Lefferts Blvd, the Rock Park & the C gets regular R211s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTrainUK Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4891 Posted January 17, 2018 Apologies if I’ve missed this somewhere along the line, but I’m just wondering how many R179 sets are in revenue service as of right now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4892 Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, JTrainUK said: Apologies if I’ve missed this somewhere along the line, but I’m just wondering how many R179 sets are in revenue service as of right now? 2 for now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4893 Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, JTrainUK said: Apologies if I’ve missed this somewhere along the line, but I’m just wondering how many R179 sets are in revenue service as of right now? There are 2 on the line. I caught one this morning on my way to school 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 17, 2018 Share #4894 Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, FLX9304 said: I agree. The A & C should be the first ones to get the R211s instead of getting the R179s. This would be a better service for A trains to utilize artics on that line, especially for its Far rock branch. The Lefferts Blvd, the Rock Park & the C gets regular R211s As the 211s are the designated replacement for the 46s, it's a strong possibility that those cars will run on the and lines. Of course, the MTA might pull a fast one and shuffle the 160s around so that 8th Avenue gets more hand-me-downs in lieu of the new cars going elsewhere. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted January 18, 2018 Share #4895 Posted January 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Lance said: As the 211s are the designated replacement for the 46s, it's a strong possibility that those cars will run on the and lines. Of course, the MTA might pull a fast one and shuffle the 160s around so that 8th Avenue gets more hand-me-downs in lieu of the new cars going elsewhere. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Except that some of the R211s will be CBTC-equipped for Eighth Avenue CBTC as multiple MTA documents have shown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 18, 2018 Share #4896 Posted January 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: Except that some of the R211s will be CBTC-equipped for Eighth Avenue CBTC as multiple MTA documents have shown. Speaking of CBTC. I don't get why is slow with this (to me it's not the answer to improving our signals.) Not sure about Ultra Wideband though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted January 18, 2018 Share #4897 Posted January 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said: Speaking of CBTC. I don't get why is slow with this (to me it's not the answer to improving our signals.) Not sure about Ultra Wideband though. No one makes the current signals anymore. CBTC is the thing on the markets these days. The MTA is slow with it because testing has to be rigorous, and there's only so much time that they get during shutdowns to actually do work (since a good amount of time before and after is getting stuff set up in place). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 18, 2018 Share #4898 Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Union Tpke said: Except that some of the R211s will be CBTC-equipped for Eighth Avenue CBTC as multiple MTA documents have shown. Yes, but R211s don't have to run on 8th avenue to enable Eighth Avenue CBTC. If you put the R211s on the D E F and half the A, you can move the R160s currently on the E and F to the rest of the A and the B/C. (ETC. I am making a hypothetical, the numbers don't perfectly work out. My point is that you need to have the R211s for 8th ave CBTC, although you don't actually need to run them on 8th ave. ) 1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said: Speaking of CBTC. I don't get why is slow with this (to me it's not the answer to improving our signals.) Not sure about Ultra Wideband though. The signals need replacement. Replacement is the answer. Thales Seltrac and Siemens Trainguard MT are the specific systems used so far in the necessary replacement, both of which are forms of CBTC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U-BahnNYC Posted January 18, 2018 Share #4899 Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Union Tpke said: Except that some of the R211s will be CBTC-equipped for Eighth Avenue CBTC as multiple MTA documents have shown. When 8th ave will be CBTC nobody knows... it'll be at least a decade, well after the R211 delivery. I wouldn't be surprised if MTA decides to put R211s on QBL first, as that will get CBTC a bit earlier. Besides, r211s are not required for CBTC. All the 160s/179s can handle it, too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 18, 2018 Share #4900 Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, U-BahnNYC said: When 8th ave will be CBTC nobody knows... it'll be at least a decade, well after the R211 delivery. I wouldn't be surprised if MTA decides to put R211s on QBL first, as that will get CBTC a bit earlier. Besides, r211s are not required for CBTC. All the 160s/179s can handle it, too. Queens CBTC will start with R160s, prior to the delivery of the R211 order. That said, there is nothing stopping the R211 from going there once they come in, bumping the R160s to the additional 4 lines requiring CBTC equipped trains once 8th has CBTC installed as well. Edited January 18, 2018 by Art Vandelay 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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