R179 Discussion Thread

[RollOver]

New trains are going to go over there eventually so that argument is moot. Besides, vandals are all over the place; they aren't localized to just the C line.

 

 

I agreed now. But remember that all (except 40 cars which will be in 5-car sets) are in 4-car sets.

 

207th Street Yard will likely have about 184 R179s and the rest at East New York Yard. Only 40 sets which will be in 5-car sets will likely see use on the . The will definitely have the best chance of becoming exclusively R160s like the and any spare of the R179 fleet will often sub for ENY's R160 fleet there.

[N4 Via Merrick Rd]

I agreed now. But remember that all (except 40 cars which will be in 5-car sets) are in 4-car sets.

 

207th Street Yard will likely have about 184 R179s and the rest at East New York Yard. Only 40 sets which will be in 5-car sets will likely see use on the . The will definitely have the best chance of becoming exclusively R160s like the and any spare of the R179 fleet will often sub for ENY's R160 fleet there.

 

Well as long as i see some new cars on the and for once in my life I'm good.

[depotofrelax]

the R179 were meant for Coney Island Yard for N , Q line. R179 will be 5 car unit of 300 purchase cars. So Jamaica yard wanted Coney Island R160 of kawaski R160B. so Coney Isalnd yard will be for R179 only 5 car unit. so R160 can run on R line. until R211 come into serivce for R line.

[depotofrelax]

The R179 were meant for Coney Island yard N , Q LINE 300 purchase cars will be 5 car unit. so Coney Isalnd Yard can displace their R160 send them to Jamaica Yard. receieve back R160B #9103 - #9192

[depotofrelax]

Who still is wondering what happened to R143 #8277 where is still at. ( if it were to be true ) if R211 were to be built by Kawasaki probably. Will Kawasaki Yonkers Plant will delievred R143 #8277 if is 100% repaired . R143 #8277 can run back to service for sure.

[Brighton Express]

the R179 were meant for Coney Island Yard for N , Q line. R179 will be 5 car unit of 300 purchase cars. So Jamaica yard wanted Coney Island R160 of kawaski R160B. so Coney Isalnd yard will be for R179 only 5 car unit. so R160 can run on R line. until R211 come into serivce for R line.

 

 

Why the hell are we talking about R211s? Is that what it is actually called?

 

As for the and R179s, I always thought that the would get them, the R32s would retire, and the would get those R68s.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

The R179 should at least have a red color like a couple below the windows all the way to the bottom, like an R142

Edited August 19, 2012 by Q23 Central Terminal

[Far Rock Depot]

The red stripe on the 142s were only as a tribute to the redbirds. If the engineers decided to add color, it would most likely be blue. But they prefer low maintenance costs.

 

"Every screw, every washer, every nut, every hole drilled for the screw costs money and will continue to."

That was told to me by Mr. Berger who was an engineer when I was an intern. I learned alot from him. And one of those things learned was what he said. Very important factor even when designing the exterior look of the car.

[depotofrelax]

I apologize i know R179 will replace R32 & R42 . Not R46. R211 will replace R46. i know? I have feeling Jamaica Yard went to give up the R46 send to 207 st. Where R46 will be scrapped at final run on A & C line. Jamaica Yard cannot handle too many R46 332 cars.

[N4 Via Merrick Rd]

The R179 should at least have a red color like a couple below the windows all the way to the bottom, like an R142

 

I don't know about that. that's something more common on IRT cars no BMT/IND.

[East New York]

Just a reminder to all, my preliminary report shows the R179's are slated for the , , and lines, with additional reports of R143's possibly headed to the as well, which would confirm my initial reports of a large bulk of the sets going to the . This would also signal the possibility that the will get a bulk of the R46's as well.

 

However, as you all know, this is subject to change.

[Dan05979]

So R-143 & R-46 going the the ? I can see the the 143's on the that makes sense.

Edited August 21, 2012 by Dan05979

[depotofrelax]

So if R143 does go to C line. How will the new strip map of R143 ( strip map of R143 not the R142) will look like . Will the strip map will still say R143 for L line. or New Strip Map copy for C line will look like. The paper strip map?

[Snowblock]

Huh? Why on earth would they leave the L strip maps if it goes to the C? They'll install C strip maps.....

[depotofrelax]

i know R62A nothing have do to deal with R179 i know. example while 7 line borrowing or loaning from R62A from 1 line. Does it make any sense R62A of 1 line need 7 line strip map. example car number R62A #2236 - #2240 running temporary for 7 line. When 1 line need their car back later. There no point putting 7 line strip. When R62A running on 7 line when it will returning on 1 line soon. & When 2 & 5 line swamp cars when 5 line uses R142 of 2 line strip map. they leave the strip map alone. It only say The strip map not in use for that line . example when 4 line borrow R142 of 5 line. The strip map say . The strip map not in use. i'm saying i maybe wrong too you know.

[Eric B]

143's going to the doesn't make any sense. The reason more 4 car sets are needed for ENY in the first place, is because the was increased, thus needing more cars than the 143's that were originally just enough to fill it, and every time new cars came, it was increased more.

[CDTA]

143's going to the doesn't make any sense. The reason more 4 car sets are needed for ENY in the first place, is because the was increased, thus needing more cars than the 143's that were originally just enough to fill it, and every time new cars came, it was increased more.

 

Eh, i'm not complaining. I love the 143's! I would love it if we got not only 179's, but 143's too! And even 46's!

[TheSubwayStation]

Well, if most R179s go to the , then the people who said that they're mostly going to be 8-car sets are wrong.

 

EDIT: Dante, don't you mean the , not the ?

Edited August 21, 2012 by TheSubwayStation

[RollOver]

The is doing some hotshit to me that is....oh well...I was thinking the , , and RPS would be 100% R46s and that the order of R179s would be extended..

[RookiePhenom]

So R-143 & R-46 going the the ? I can see the the 143's on the that makes sense.

 

 

No, it doesn't.

[Far Rock Depot]

143s shifting to the C kinda does make sense when thinking about how the MTA thinks. Those cars are "broken in". Crews are already pretty much certified operating them. They're already in 4 car sets (which keeps the C at 8 car consists), and add in the factor of shifts due to mileage, well, the 143s have primarily been a Canaries line exclusive(except for a few cameos on the Myrtle shuttle). Hypothetically speaking, 143s shifts to the C, 160s shift to the L, 179s go to the Jamaica line.

[Brighton Express]

No, it doesn't.

 

 

Yes it does.

 

Just a reminder to all, my preliminary report shows the R179's are slated for the , , and lines, with additional reports of R143's possibly headed to the as well, which would confirm my initial reports of a large bulk of the sets going to the . This would also signal the possibility that the will get a bulk of the R46's as well.

 

However, as you all know, this is subject to change.

 

 

My plan would be to take the R143s from the for the , give the R160s from the for the , and give the R179s to the , , and . Not quite sure how I would work the in there.

 

 

EDIT: Dante, don't you mean the , not the ?

 

 

The just got R160s, I don't think that it would need an upgrade so fast. But if the got R179s, you could give those R160s to the , and give those R68As to the .

Edited August 21, 2012 by Brighton Express

[VWM]

The and need some R179s, however, the is priority

[Far Rock Depot]

Honest question. I would like to know your reasoning as to why the B would get priority?

Edited August 21, 2012 by Far Rock Depot

[Guest Lance]

143s shifting to the C kinda does make sense when thinking about how the MTA thinks. Those cars are "broken in". Crews are already pretty much certified operating them. They're already in 4 car sets (which keeps the C at 8 car consists), and add in the factor of shifts due to mileage, well, the 143s have primarily been a Canaries line exclusive(except for a few cameos on the Myrtle shuttle). Hypothetically speaking, 143s shifts to the C, 160s shift to the L, 179s go to the Jamaica line.

 

 

Of course, if, and that's a big if, the 143s do move over to 207th Street for C line service, the incoming 179s will have to be CBTC-equipped from the get-go. I don't recall that being part of the order, though maybe I'm wrong.

 

Honest question. I would like to know your reasoning as to why the B would get priority?

 

 

I'm wondering that too. I get that some folks want to see NTTs on the B, but there isn't anything wrong with the 68As.